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beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:58 PM Apr 2016

Benghazi Panel Co-Chair Endorses Clinton: We Need More Than 'Promise'

Source: Talking Points Memo



Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) knocked the soaring rhetoric of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) while endorsing Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination on Sunday.

“Families in Baltimore who are hurting right now need more than the promise of a political revolution,” Cummings wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post.

Clinton “not only understands the challenges facing Baltimore and other cities,” Cummings continued, “she’s laid out a clear and detailed agenda that meets those challenges head-on.”

As co-chair of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, Cummings has served as a staunch defender of then-Secretary of State Clinton’s handling of the 2012 terrorist attacks that killed four Americans in Libya's capital.

His position on that panel prompted him to remain neutral in the 2016 race until now, according to the Post, but he made it “abundantly clear” on Sunday that he was fully supportive of Clinton’s campaign.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/elijah-cummings-endorses-clinton



Because... Benghazi! And the server!
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Benghazi Panel Co-Chair Endorses Clinton: We Need More Than 'Promise' (Original Post) beastie boy Apr 2016 OP
It is a good endorsement, thanks still_one Apr 2016 #1
This is another great endorsement Gothmog Apr 2016 #2
Wonderful! Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #3
Benghazi! onehandle Apr 2016 #4
Benghazi? Plucketeer Apr 2016 #13
Yeah, Eijah Cummings is an ass and Hillary sucks. And Bernie is great! At Berniecratic Underground.. winstars Apr 2016 #16
Yes, I'm horrible Plucketeer Apr 2016 #25
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #37
Elijah Cummings and most of the BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #30
One had to be reasonable. Igel Apr 2016 #32
Fewer opportunities after 25 YEARS in office! BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #35
Wow... Plucketeer Apr 2016 #39
Dunderhead. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #5
So she has a plan... carla Apr 2016 #6
Does Beernie plan to implement his plan? beastie boy Apr 2016 #10
It is called lancer78 Apr 2016 #19
Don't tell me this is the entirety of his plan!... beastie boy Apr 2016 #20
This says a lot about Hillary supporters contempt for the ones suffering at the bottom LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #23
Good post...nt freebrew Apr 2016 #26
My contempt is for the people who would have you believe beastie boy Apr 2016 #31
But it WOULD be a political revolution. How else should he phrase it? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #43
It would be... if it was ever to take place. beastie boy Apr 2016 #45
Call it what you will LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #46
I would be more hopeful lancer78 Apr 2016 #38
Chin up lancer LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #44
How Can Black People Trust Hillary Clinton After the 2008 Campaign? Human101948 Apr 2016 #7
Obama picked her to be sec of state JI7 Apr 2016 #12
Only because her name was Clinton Politicalboi Apr 2016 #29
Agree. establishment types only hurt themselves....the more they try the more they will lose.... Pauldg47 Apr 2016 #33
"...need more than the promise of a political revolution" LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #8
Where is all of the 'rhetoric' from Bernie that they talk about? nt phazed0 Apr 2016 #9
Families in Baltimore are hurting so maybe we'll fight for $12 per hour instead of 15 Ash_F Apr 2016 #11
Thank you, Rep. Cummings. Beacool Apr 2016 #14
"need more than the promise of a political revolution" blackspade Apr 2016 #15
A bird in the hand... beastie boy Apr 2016 #17
Unless the bird in the hand is dead and festering. blackspade Apr 2016 #34
If you want to see dead and festering, study the history of revolutions. beastie boy Apr 2016 #36
Yup, the American revolution was a travesty. blackspade Apr 2016 #40
You are right. Once every 250 years. beastie boy Apr 2016 #41
You can hope. blackspade Apr 2016 #42
As A Marylander Lean Apr 2016 #18
Good endorsement for Hillary Clinton.... LenaBaby61 Apr 2016 #21
Another ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRAT shills for Hillary... dicksmc3 Apr 2016 #22
Dog bites man: Wall Street representative endorses Hillary. Note he said that she needs to "embrace" w4rma Apr 2016 #24
Elijah Cummings: my hero today Hekate Apr 2016 #27
A lot of people with money and power who can't countenance even the slimmest bjo59 Apr 2016 #28
K & R enthusiastically. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #47
how much time and money did GOP spend on Benghazi compared to 9/11? yurbud Apr 2016 #48
k&r DesertRat Apr 2016 #49

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
3. Wonderful!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

Great man and great endorsement. I think we are going to see more and more of these in the coming weeks.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
13. Benghazi?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:01 PM
Apr 2016

I'm betting Elijah has never seen the clip of Hillary's death-defying run-for-cover in Bosnia. That little video is SUCH a testament to Hill's integrity.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
16. Yeah, Eijah Cummings is an ass and Hillary sucks. And Bernie is great! At Berniecratic Underground..
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:33 PM
Apr 2016


So predictable around here these days, its all getting a bit boring...

And I like Bernie!!!
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
25. Yes, I'm horrible
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

So - just what WAS Brian Williams fate for just such an itty-bitty stretch of the truth? Did he remain the flag bearer of his network's news dept? No, he was "backwatered". Demoted, if you wanna call it that.

But a presidential contender truth stretch? Nah - no reason to think she'd be ANYthing but on the level with the American people - kinda like when she rattled off all the health care entities that Bernie would abolish - knowing what she was saying was misleading at best.
I'm all for a big Kum-byah moment - right after the convention.

I don't think Cummings is an "ass". But I will venture that his choice of whom to back was inevitable.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
30. Elijah Cummings and most of the
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

MD delegation know Hillary well and have worked closely together with her on many issues that have benefited their constituents.

Bernie's absence from actually working on those same issues - no matter how many thundering speeches he may make - is striking. He talks the talk but does not walk the walk.

It is both this personal knowledge of Hillary and their personal experience in working with her that are why the MD delegation unanimously backs Hillary Clinton for President. They are also tremendously enthusiastic about it.

The only way that you seem to know Hillary is from RW TPs that disparage her. People who actually DO know her like her very much.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
32. One had to be reasonable.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:02 PM
Apr 2016

Even when others aren't.

Sanders was an independent, which means he lacked a ready made "the roof constitutes an introduction" sort of ploy. He had no network to hit him up for assistance, nor a network to appeal to.

He was a Senator from Vermont, and focused on Vermont. Again, no huge network.

HRC was in DC in an executive, largely ceremonial but certainly beneficent position and had significant DC connections. She was in a network, and the network could tap her influence and she could tap that network. Moreover, while Sanders makes clear that he's not able to wield any reasonable amount of wealth or notoriety, part of his perpetual piety of populist pride, HRC had both and used them from time to time. Yes, as she saw fit. (Few do things voluntarily and inconveniently that they don't see fit.)

In other words, Sanders had fewer opportunities. We should expect less from him and evaluate him accordingly. Similarly, Obama had few connections to the MD established order when he was a Senator. Not his backyard. Not his constituents.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
35. Fewer opportunities after 25 YEARS in office!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:22 PM
Apr 2016

Give me a break!

One has to create bonds. They are not ready-made for one to slip on like gloves. Ted Cruz, for example, is a Republican who has eschewed creating bonds. He is almost universally despised by his party. The irony is that they are more afraid of Trump.

Based on his record, Bernie has expressly held himself at a distance from his Dem colleagues. Even when previously invited to join, he has scorned the Democratic Party. He continued to scorn the party until he decided to run for US President and since then his surrogates have continued with the scorn. That does not make for warm fuzzies. At all.

Hillary is one who does create bonds. She has throughout her career and has an impressive record of achievements to show for having created them. You can dismiss her, her accomplishments or the bonds she has created all you want. That will not change the facts.

Politics is like a team sport. One cannot accomplish things alone. Bernie is a loner by nature. Such does not bode well for him to accomplish anything as President. Things like "siccing" supporters on SDs, calling his opponent "unqualified" when by any measure she IS the most qualified in this election, falsely announcing that he has been invited by the Pope to Italy, sending supporters specifically to overturn caucus results in NV and primary results in MO, and so it goes .... There are just too many Rovian dirty tricks involved here for me to forgive. Or forget.

I am evaluating him on what I SEE right now and that is NOT pretty.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
39. Wow...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:13 PM
Apr 2016

What an entrancement. So - after she takes the oath of office - she'll make her way to the reflecting pond and silence the doubters by demonstrating her water-walking prowess.

carla

(553 posts)
6. So she has a plan...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:08 PM
Apr 2016

and Sen Bernie Sanders has a plan. I know which plan would be enacted by a president and I know which plan is just a ploy. Cummings is no more sage than anyone else who believes in the HRC campaign. A plan is a plan, and my candidate hasn't sold a generation of black youth into prison so I believe he has a plan that I can get behind. Her? Not much.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
10. Does Beernie plan to implement his plan?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

How?

I have yet to hear from him on that part of the plan.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
19. It is called
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:56 PM
Apr 2016

"The political Revolution" which of course will not happen as not enough Americans are suffering yet. Or if they are suffering, then they have been conditioned to blame the "other".

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
20. Don't tell me this is the entirety of his plan!...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:05 PM
Apr 2016

He is running for President on a plan that his plan will not happen until there are enough people who suffer???

And what does he intend to do to bring his plan to fruition? Make more people suffer?

Brilliant!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
23. This says a lot about Hillary supporters contempt for the ones suffering at the bottom
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

And the ignorance of them understanding what Bernie stands for.

You respond to a post by a more depressed poster that is despondent that perhaps too many Americans have not reached the breaking point where they are willing to shoulder a full scale overhauling of the American democracy. That together with the corporate news media's scare tactics, and at the same time ignoring simple questions like....why every other western democracy can afford universal healthcare for its citizens, why can't the richest nation on Earth? Together with decades of rich celebrity worship, glorification of war, and GOP lies with their very own news network together with the vast majority of daytime talk radio...and combined with the very human nature of resisting change..

with a snide comment using a Straw Man argument.

Even though you very well know that Sanders himself, along with all of his supporters, see the obvious need to start changing the tide in favour of the 99% over the coddled 1%....yesterday! But better late than never. And better now than when millions more are under the poverty line.

Its like arguing with Jim Inhofe and his snowball. Just because global warming has not caused the end of the world yet, doesn't mean we should not be working for a "climate change plan revolution" today. You berate a poster that is not optimistic that enough Americans, because of media and cultural conditioning, will vote in their own best interests to prevent future suffering. I myself am more hopeful.

And you laugh at that? Childish. Cynical and Defeatist.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
31. My contempt is for the people who would have you believe
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

they can accomplish anything by calling for a "political revolution". And people who buy this crap.

Enough with righteous indignation already! Quit waving your flags and show me how Bernie can get shit done. Pissing on me or Hillary from your high horse ain't gonna do it.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
43. But it WOULD be a political revolution. How else should he phrase it?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

Look, I'm not as naive as to think that after 4 years of a Bernie Presidency we will be living in the New Sweden. But don't you want to at least begin the process of creating a made in America version of a more fair society? It is simply not sustainable to keep shoveling $ from the bottom onto the top of the scaffold. There is a tipping point coming. And it could come a lot faster if the public were to be exposed to the possibilities. I think there is a term for this, but if an idea reaches a certain critical mass of public support it suddenly becomes acceptable. This has happened many times in American history. Women's vote, desegregation, and more recently general acceptance of gay marriage and legal weed. Frankly that last one even surprised me how fast this is moving.

Bernie may just start something that others will have to finish. But that doesn't mean we should never start. Simply by having a President that pushes for the 99%, forcing the press to address it, forcing the conversation to happen would be a start. Hillary will not only NOT start this much needed transformation of the 99% taking back from the 40 years of redistribution of wealth to the top, she will exacerbate it by probably turning on a dime, if in office, and back the TPP. More corporate rubber stampers on the SCOTUS. The New Democrats in the Third Way, will march on with their neo-liberal agenda where they cannot see any difference between creating wealth for the top .1% or for the rest. As long as the top 100 corporations can declare increased profits, they pat themselves on the back, no matter if the rest of the peons are struggling.

I'm sick of the No We Can't attitude. You take your cues from your leaders. In the same way Bernie could begin a political revolution, Hillary could dampen the possibility for real change for another decade. It would be comical if it wasn't so important to see all these frightened and cowed supposedly left-of-center Democrats just accept the No We Can't mantra.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
45. It would be... if it was ever to take place.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

And what you are describing, which is the best poscible scenarion Sandernistas can imagine is a political EVOLUTION.

Count me in for that one. And count Bernie out. He just doesn't have the political skills to direct it.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
46. Call it what you will
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

The start of a political revolution. Or an evolution. It won't happen without a leader that uses the bully pulpit and markets it. Obama came fresh out of a drop-the-mic election win, only to drop the ball once in office in regards to using the pulpit to push for progressive policies. And I think you underestimate the "political skills" of Bernie. He has survived decades in the Senate. He knows his way around.

the Sandinistas were also outnumbered and outgunned by the US MIC, and the corporate overlords that wanted their cash cow back. But they eventually won out and Ortega was elected President. So I do not take any offense at being called a Sandernista. A revolution that can win against all odds.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
38. I would be more hopeful
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 08:15 PM
Apr 2016

But unfortunately, I don't expect things to change unless most Americans lose their "me" attitude.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
44. Chin up lancer
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

I agree that there is a natural, and cultivated by media and entertainment culture, inclination for a me first attitude. But what someone like Bernie can do is also appeal to that too. Having universal single payer healthcare is a ME issue. Not having to worry in you whole life about healthcare expenses, no matter how ill you get, is good for ME. Being able to go to college or have your kids attend college, is a ME issue. Getting $, especially massive secret money, out of electioneering is a good thing for every citizen. We just haven't had a spokesperson yet in this position, of this caliber, to explain it and show how things could be for all the ME's out there.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
7. How Can Black People Trust Hillary Clinton After the 2008 Campaign?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

Today, Clinton is wrapping herself in the flag of Obama to appeal to Black voters, arguing that she’s the candidate who will address the needs of Black people. She’s got her surrogates attacking her opponent’s civil rights bonafides, and she’s built a large stable of Black establishment players to support her. Clinton is proclaiming that Black Lives Matter and offering bold promises to fight systemic racism and inequality.

But it’s hard to believe she’s serious about fighting for racial justice unless you pretend her 2008 campaign against Obama never happened. If you remember that period, there’s good reason to believe today’s promises are nothing more than lip-service to a community she sees as key to winning the nomination.

Clinton is now attacking Bernie Sanders for having criticized Obama, trying to take advantage of Black folks’ desire to defend the president. But it was Clinton herself who waged an incredibly nasty campaign of attacks and smears against Obama, going far beyond mere policy disagreements. A quick trip down memory lane reveals that Clinton has a history of employing race in a divisive, cynical manner.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-rucker/can-black-people-trust-hillary_b_9312004.html

JI7

(89,252 posts)
12. Obama picked her to be sec of state
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

Things that happen outside of campaigns matter also.

Sec of state is one of the most important positions .maybe even more than VP. And he picked her for it.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
29. Only because her name was Clinton
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

And she had an ex president for a husband. What really qualified her? Senator of NY? First Lady? Obama probably had to promise her that position for her to get out of the race in 2008. She didn't deserve to be SoS. She rides coattails. Hillary Riding Coattails.

Pauldg47

(640 posts)
33. Agree. establishment types only hurt themselves....the more they try the more they will lose....
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

The young people are going to rebel and even this old fart will too.....the establishment will just rot away. They are afraid to lose your jobs which will happen over time.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
8. "...need more than the promise of a political revolution"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

Truer words have never been spoken.

All candidates promise the equivalent of a political revolution. There is only one candidate that will actually work for one.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
15. "need more than the promise of a political revolution"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:29 PM
Apr 2016

As opposed to needing more of the same soul grinding social and economic inequality that will continue with a Clinton Presidency.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
34. Unless the bird in the hand is dead and festering.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:15 PM
Apr 2016

Like the economic realities of the poor, working, and middle classes.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
36. If you want to see dead and festering, study the history of revolutions.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:26 PM
Apr 2016

And if you want to see the economic realities of the poor, study the consequences of Republicans running this country.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
40. Yup, the American revolution was a travesty.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:16 PM
Apr 2016

And I'm looking at the economic realities of the poor now after 35 years of dismantling of the New Deal.
The poor were the first to go under the Reaganomic/Thirdway/New Dem wheel. Now the Working and middle classes are going under.
You can either have a bloodless democratic revolution now, or a bloody one later. I guess you'll take the latter.

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
41. You are right. Once every 250 years.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016

Bloodless or bloody, there will be no revolution. People have too much to lose in exchange for a vague promise and no path forward to make good on it.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
42. You can hope.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

But people with increasing inequality have less and less to loose.
The New Deal is a good example of a bloodless revolution that headed off a bloody one.
But continue to live in your privileged dream world.

 

Lean

(39 posts)
18. As A Marylander
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 03:44 PM
Apr 2016

Mr. Cummings does not speak for the state of Maryland. One can only wonder what Hillary promised him.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
21. Good endorsement for Hillary Clinton....
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

From Elijah Cummings. IF anyone knows their way around the farce that is Benghazi which we US Taxpayers were forced to pay for, it's Elijah Cummings. IF it were up to committee chairman and Carnival Barker Darryl Issa, he'd continue running with the farce that is Benghazi, and we US Taxpayers would continue paying for it.

dicksmc3

(262 posts)
22. Another ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRAT shills for Hillary...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

These people in Congress better wake up. They say Bernie hasn't got a clue on how to fix the broken system he just makes promises.. Just look at all the people in prison on charges that are so lax it's absurd!! He will take the prisons away from the business people who run that ridiculous show!! I haven't heard one peep from Hillary on how she would fix this epidemic!! Another point, when is she going to call out Wall Street?? No, she takes speaking fees as much as $250,000 a pop!! Something is wrong with ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS!! It's time for some new politics. Cummings was expected to be a Hillary surrogate. How else would he get funding from the DNC??

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
24. Dog bites man: Wall Street representative endorses Hillary. Note he said that she needs to "embrace"
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 04:58 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie's vision.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
28. A lot of people with money and power who can't countenance even the slimmest
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:21 PM
Apr 2016

shred of possibility that the US might end up with a President who does not support the status quo. I mean, those people have worked for years to get things the way they want them and spent billions to do it. Even if Bernie couldn't change a thing, the idea of having a president who would be in the news constantly talking about income inequality, corporate bribery, etc. is just totally unthinkable. It seems so certain that the government has been completely bought off at this point and the emergence of Bernie on the national scene is making the buyers very nervous - this kind of thing is no longer supposed to happen.

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