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WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 03:54 PM Apr 2016

Embattled NC Governor Calls Gay Rights Group ‘More Powerful Than The NRA’

Source: Huffington Post

Under attack for signing the controversial anti-LGBT law known as HB2, North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) said Sunday that a gay rights advocacy group is more powerful than the National Rifle Association.

“The Human Rights Council. My gosh, they’re more powerful than the NRA,” McCrory told Chuck Todd on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” alluding to the nation’s premier gun lobby. “And they have millions of dollars, which makes me want to overturn [Citizens] United, because I don’t know who their donors are, either. But they are putting on a lot of pressure, instead of having good dialogue.”

Despite the group’s power, McCrory didn’t have its name right; it appears he was alluding to the Human Rights Campaign, which lobbies on civil rights for the LGBT community. The group has been a leading critic of the new law.

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“Pat McCrory can’t have it both ways and say he doesn’t want the government to tell the private sector what to do while he also sticks his head in the sand and ignores more than 160 businesses who have clearly said they want H.B. 2 repealed,” Chad Griffin, HRC’s president, said.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-carolina-gay-rights-nra_us_5713b938e4b06f35cb6fd8ac



Poor Pat, he's having a rough week and that state is losing millions from this discrimination bill.
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Embattled NC Governor Calls Gay Rights Group ‘More Powerful Than The NRA’ (Original Post) WhiteTara Apr 2016 OP
Then how was this horrible law passed? liberal N proud Apr 2016 #1
Because they're not more powerful? WhiteTara Apr 2016 #2
How about a mean spirited, "holier than thou", dumb ass-hat republican?? Duval Apr 2016 #3
You have given him some excellent adjectives WhiteTara Apr 2016 #6
"good dialogue"? Time for that is long past. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #4
Since the bill was presented, passed, and signed in on day - yeah. yardwork Apr 2016 #13
"But they are putting on a lot of pressure, instead of having good dialogue.” Equinox Moon Apr 2016 #5
OK, governor. Here's the dialogue you wanted. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #7
LOL... sendero Apr 2016 #11
Except that he can't repeal it. He doesn't have enough power. yardwork Apr 2016 #14
Why are they unopposed? Do we have anyone in NC willing to run agaisnt them? The Animator Apr 2016 #29
Our state Democratic Party is a mess here. yardwork Apr 2016 #30
Republicanism should be classified as a disease by the CDC! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #35
For little Patty: Liberalagogo Apr 2016 #8
North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) has no sense of power I guess. The NRA controls rladdi Apr 2016 #9
He says that like it's a bad thing. Android3.14 Apr 2016 #10
McCrory wouldn't know the truth unless Art Pope told him what it was... Ford_Prefect Apr 2016 #12
That's it. Bingo. yardwork Apr 2016 #31
"My gosh, they’re more powerful than the NRA..." My gosh, Pat McCrory is an idiot. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #15
And that's a bad thing? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #16
If only! shenmue Apr 2016 #17
There is no dialogue to be had asshat Downtown Hound Apr 2016 #18
Pearl Jam cancelled their scheduled show on 4/20 hibbing Apr 2016 #19
McCrory, STFU! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #20
If the message is louder and more "powerful" than the NRA, then, it must be VERY POPULAR!! Idiot. vkkv Apr 2016 #21
If 'Teh Gay' is more powerful than the NRA jpak Apr 2016 #22
Wait, does that mean he has some sort of history ... surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #23
It's the businesses who have customers, employees or employee's family members that are LGBT... haele Apr 2016 #24
my state I'd so much more beautiful and better than these Republicans... retrowire Apr 2016 #25
Reminds me of SNL from last week... TipTok Apr 2016 #26
Impossible! czarjak Apr 2016 #27
Can't he even get their name right? And he wants dialog? Crash2Parties Apr 2016 #28
Correct. But their website is hosting a letter signed by 160+ companies opposed to HB2. yardwork Apr 2016 #32
What a whiner. He just doesn't get it. We support the LGBT community 100%. Nitram Apr 2016 #33
This guy is such a damn fool. One endorses guns that often kill, the other just wants to lead their RKP5637 Apr 2016 #34
Mainly, I agree. For those who don't have me on ignore, I have said for years... Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #36
If they wanted good dialogue, then why did they ram it rhough in 12 hours? LisaM Apr 2016 #37
He didn't want dialogue about the bill WhiteTara Apr 2016 #38
 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
3. How about a mean spirited, "holier than thou", dumb ass-hat republican??
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:12 PM
Apr 2016

I could not listen to him on TV today. Cooper for Gov in NC!!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,035 posts)
4. "good dialogue"? Time for that is long past.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sure that McCrory and his gang of Republicans made no attempt to have an honest dialogue before passing his unconstitutional discriminatory bill.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
13. Since the bill was presented, passed, and signed in on day - yeah.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

12 hours from presentation of the bill until the gubnor signed it. No dialogue.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
5. "But they are putting on a lot of pressure, instead of having good dialogue.”
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:14 PM
Apr 2016

There is nothing to talk about. The peoples rights are clear:

'Fundamentalist religion is separate from politics. You can't write religious laws.'

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
7. OK, governor. Here's the dialogue you wanted.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

You will be beaten down every day, you will lose business every day, and you'll become more of an international laughingstock and pariah with each passing day until you completely and unconditionally surrender. And that means repealing the bill you signed into law. You will be made to suffer until you decide that you no longer want to suffer.

Oh, look at that...we're short on time, and we won't be able to get to your side of the dialogue.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
14. Except that he can't repeal it. He doesn't have enough power.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:19 AM
Apr 2016

The NC state legislature tricked McCrory into signing a bill that he can't defend, and he was so blinded by his own phobias and his dim-witted certainty that this would win him reelection, Pat rushed to sign the bill the same day it was pushed through a special session.

In addition to being hateful to transgender folks, the bill is full of other things McCrory can't defend, but is powerless to fix. The state legislature doesn't listen to him. They're all running unopposed in safely gerrymandered districts.

There is no path to repealing this bill anytime soon, and Pat is the public face of it. I would be delighted to watch him squirm but he's taking down the state with him.

The Animator

(1,138 posts)
29. Why are they unopposed? Do we have anyone in NC willing to run agaisnt them?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:30 AM
Apr 2016

I know the gerry mandering makes it a lot tougher, but a good multipronged grassroots campaign will at least make them have to spend their money... It may also puts them on notice that the citizens of NC are tired of their shit...

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
30. Our state Democratic Party is a mess here.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:35 AM
Apr 2016

And the gerrymandering is a real problem.

The Kochs are bankrolling this. It's all ALEC written legislation.

The rural areas of the state are very conservative. Ever since the teabag sector of the Republican Party took over in NC in 2010, they've steadily taken power and rights from the cities. We have wonderful progressive cities and universities here, but the Republican wrecking crew is trying to take us down.

rladdi

(581 posts)
9. North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) has no sense of power I guess. The NRA controls
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

America and its citizens. If the politicians would stand up to the NRA, they would have NO power. But people give them power in how they act towards the NRA. Gays are not killers like the NRA.

Ford_Prefect

(7,918 posts)
12. McCrory wouldn't know the truth unless Art Pope told him what it was...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:10 PM
Apr 2016

McCrory is to NC what Shrub was to national politics: A well paid, well coached liar in an expensive suit who is good at pretending to be the guy you'd have a beer with. He never speaks a word in public that didn't come directly from Art Pope or the Koch Brothers.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
16. And that's a bad thing?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:50 PM
Apr 2016

Organizations that advocate for other humans, or businesses that support those humans and their rights,

are more powerful

than organizations that advocate for deadly metal objects?

Wow, what a travesty.

hibbing

(10,109 posts)
19. Pearl Jam cancelled their scheduled show on 4/20
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:06 PM
Apr 2016

Saw them last year, not a huge fan, but it was a fun and rocking show. That one would have been a good one. The band released a statement that they would donate monies to groups fighting against this discriminatory law.


Peace

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
21. If the message is louder and more "powerful" than the NRA, then, it must be VERY POPULAR!! Idiot.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:52 PM
Apr 2016

jpak

(41,758 posts)
22. If 'Teh Gay' is more powerful than the NRA
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 07:56 PM
Apr 2016

The NC GOP is in deep doodoo.

Thanks for the laugh - moran

yup

haele

(12,676 posts)
24. It's the businesses who have customers, employees or employee's family members that are LGBT...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016

...not the HRC that are the force between the economic backlash. Businesses don't care about race, gender, or religion - businesses care about the dollar; who spends it on their products and services, and how much they have to spend to cover operating and other costs.

This bill was bad for business from the onset. Anyone who had any modicum sense of the greater world and the way markets work would have recognized that immediately.
But I guess they thought that "Good Lord" will compensate for the economic suffering their "creating their own reality" and pandering to the lowest forms of religion put them in and miracle away all their problems. That is, if they were actually following what a Creator of the entire universe would have desired of them, instead of some hobgoblin of induced Cafeteria-Christian that they were praying would be their personal "Gawd" instead everybody's God.

Too bad they were determined to take everyone down with them

Haele

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
25. my state I'd so much more beautiful and better than these Republicans...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:26 PM
Apr 2016

I can't wait to see what we'll get done with a Democratic North Carolina.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
28. Can't he even get their name right? And he wants dialog?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:27 AM
Apr 2016

“The Human Rights Council"

Is he talking about HRC, the Human Rights Campaign? They do have millions, around $30 mil a year, but they spend much of it on salaries and more black tie fundraisers. They aren't exactly known as a NRA-level powerhouse, more like PETA or some such. They do some good, but mostly they exist for their own existence, the epitome of the "Gay, Inc" NPO.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
32. Correct. But their website is hosting a letter signed by 160+ companies opposed to HB2.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:39 AM
Apr 2016

It's more politically expedient to blame HRC than to confront the businesses.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
34. This guy is such a damn fool. One endorses guns that often kill, the other just wants to lead their
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:35 AM
Apr 2016

lives without discrimination. Yeah, they're the same. What a despicable fool.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
36. Mainly, I agree. For those who don't have me on ignore, I have said for years...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:48 PM
Apr 2016

That the two most powerful interest groups in the U.S.A. are the combination of LGBTQ groups, and the NRA. Different aims, different organizations, often different tactics, but they get the job done in a relentless manner. And BOTH are characterized by large, active grassroots memberships who are willing to put in the money and effort to achieve their respective goals. Take a dispassionate moment in the midst of the hateful culture wars, and you can get a good schooling.

LisaM

(27,829 posts)
37. If they wanted good dialogue, then why did they ram it rhough in 12 hours?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

That's the part that gets me. As bad as the law is, it never should have been pushed through that fast. I remember once we were planning a Christmas party at my work and someone thought we should have, as entertainment, a hypnotist who made people think that they were drunk and that the men next to them had pinched them. Sadly, the committee voted to actually do this in the hand vote that took place after they showed the video. Only a couple of us voted no. BUT - a day or two later, the head of HR emailed us all that she'd taken the time to think it over, and decided that this was not a good option for Christmas entertainment at a law firm.

The guv should have stepped back like that and really consider the consequences. It was a knee-jerk reaction and I'm glad that it's causing them trouble.

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
38. He didn't want dialogue about the bill
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

he just wants it now that there is backlash. He's just a hypocrite.

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