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ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:14 PM Apr 2016

Sanders gains on Clinton, trails by 2 points

Source: CNN

Hillary Clinton holds just a two-point lead over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders nationally in the Democratic presidential race, a new poll shows.

An NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey released Monday has Clinton at 50% support to Sanders' 48% -- down from Clinton's nine-point advantage in the same poll one month ago.
Since more than half of all Democratic voters have already taken part in their states' contests, the national numbers are a limited gauge of where the race stands.
New York is set to hold a key primary on Tuesday, and Clinton is favored by a larger margin there, giving her an opportunity to build her lead among both delegates and in the popular vote.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politics/poll-hillary-clinton-leads-bernie-sanders-by-2-points/index.html

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Sanders gains on Clinton, trails by 2 points (Original Post) ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2016 OP
bernie will win NY tomorrow putitinD Apr 2016 #1
I will be glad if he is close. Beating her will be a beeyatch. Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #3
Don't be too sure. forest444 Apr 2016 #5
I am very concerned about that myself /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #6
Stalin famously said that it isn't the votes that count, but who counts the votes. forest444 Apr 2016 #16
That motherfucker was RIGHT MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #23
love that gif by ur sigline :) TimeToEvolve Apr 2016 #27
I steal them, Time... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #38
I would hope PATRICK Apr 2016 #41
This as well dorkzilla Apr 2016 #24
wait what the fuck TimeToEvolve Apr 2016 #29
I put it dorkzilla Apr 2016 #30
Ours was changed. zentrum Apr 2016 #34
Mine is in the same spot for years dorkzilla Apr 2016 #36
Hmmm. zentrum Apr 2016 #43
Makes me sick. 840high Apr 2016 #28
Viva la revolución SHRED Apr 2016 #31
ˇVenceremos! forest444 Apr 2016 #32
Bookmarked! William769 Apr 2016 #9
Hi Billy, long time no see. Nice to pay us a visit. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #46
It's a fulltime job writing all those checks. William769 Apr 2016 #49
Be careful, Carpal Tunnel Syndrome can be horribly painful. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #55
Thanks to Obamacare, I'm covered. William769 Apr 2016 #56
I'm so happy for you! BeanMusical Apr 2016 #57
No RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #10
Of course. It's his home state. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #12
chuckle paulthompson Apr 2016 #15
Wow. You really think he may lose his home state? Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #17
Not hardly. He will be lucky if he gets within 15 percentage points. leftofcool Apr 2016 #26
Hoping to get 48%. 50% would be incredible. 50.1% would be a miracle. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #33
It's close enough that the 70,000 or so previously and newly registered Democrats who had their Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #39
Once again you are wrong. William769 Apr 2016 #53
national polls mean nothing during primaries lol nt msongs Apr 2016 #2
Bernie could win NY tomorrow, polling can be wrong JoeOtterbein Apr 2016 #4
yes, remember Michigan? putitinD Apr 2016 #7
Hillary won Michigan by 18 points among Democrats. Bernie beat her because of Independents. pnwmom Apr 2016 #11
And that is the difference liberal N proud Apr 2016 #18
Judging by the Chris Hayes interview tonight.. JoeOtterbein Apr 2016 #8
The more people learn about Bernie... SoapBox Apr 2016 #13
What doesn't make sense is if nationally its tied.. kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #14
He's also down about 8-9% in the primaries/caucuses already conducted. This is a useless poll. George II Apr 2016 #20
Last 7 polls in the last month have avg Clinton +2. kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #22
Yes, in a mythical "NATIONAL" poll, after 2/3 of the country has already voted. George II Apr 2016 #19
Andrea and Rachel on MSNBC right now... JoeOtterbein Apr 2016 #21
How is it that the national polls change xloadiex Apr 2016 #25
The difference between the nation and New York? Thor_MN Apr 2016 #37
Boy there are a lot of Socialists in this country - who knew? LiberalElite Apr 2016 #35
And a lot of democrats who aren't paying attention fbc Apr 2016 #40
Kicking nt LiberalElite Apr 2016 #42
I'm afraid polls are pretty useless at this point. It's all about delegates, folks. Nitram Apr 2016 #44
Outlier MarianJack Apr 2016 #45
Yes, Hilly is an outliar. BeanMusical Apr 2016 #47
Baloney! MarianJack Apr 2016 #48
Salami! And don't forget the Head Cheese!! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #50
That's no Gouda Mudcat Apr 2016 #51
Pepperoni! BeanMusical Apr 2016 #54
winning the hispanic vote just in time for California GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #52
Kicking nt LiberalElite Apr 2016 #58
Now if they could vote. Unicorn Apr 2016 #59

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
3. I will be glad if he is close. Beating her will be a beeyatch.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:18 PM
Apr 2016

Not that I wouldn't be out of my mind insane happy if he did it but I got sick the last time it was close so I have to hold up a bit of my enthusiasm.

Love you Bernie!!!!!!!!

forest444

(5,902 posts)
16. Stalin famously said that it isn't the votes that count, but who counts the votes.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

To which I'd add, who hacks the votes (God help us all).

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
41. I would hope
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:19 AM
Apr 2016

this would be more of a judgment how nakedly effective it is having all the party machinery GOTV etc. pushing for one candidate and failing. It is critical in this case for there to be pollwatchers because you have to know there are many who would succumb to temptation to do something for the team and for favors spread so fully in one direction. This is a very rigid game here in NY. The digital mysteries will just leave you with unproveable distractions from the actual, physical dumb things pols in the bag do under pressure.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
34. Ours was changed.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:48 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:34 AM - Edit history (1)

But they did send us all postcards with plenty of notice, so I didn't think anything of it at the time.

I did wonder why though since we've voted at the same place for years and years. I'm sure there will still be some people who won't know where to vote, postcard or not.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
36. Mine is in the same spot for years
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:55 PM
Apr 2016

Which I had to check on line; we usually get a postcard telling us where to go and didn't get it this time round.

On top.of that, we found out today that where there are normally judges in case of any voting inconsistencies in the larger towns/cities in Westchester County (e.g. Yonkers, New Rochelle) there will only be one tomorrow, in White Plains. One judge for a county of nearly one million people with over 500,000 registered voters.

What the actual fuck?

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
43. Hmmm.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:37 AM
Apr 2016

Will report on my precinct after I vote.

I'll also voting for the people who will be Bernie super delegates if they win—hope people have that information at their precinct.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
46. Hi Billy, long time no see. Nice to pay us a visit.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

All that underground plumbing and masonry must be a full time job.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. Of course. It's his home state.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:35 PM
Apr 2016

But in the highly unlikely event that he does not, it will be absolutely devastating to his campaign and morale.

paulthompson

(2,398 posts)
15. chuckle
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:38 PM
Apr 2016

What a transparent attempt to reset the expectations so Clinton can't lose. Nobody believes that but you. If he loses but keeps it close, people will rightly consider that a victory. I just read something in a news article today quoting a neutral expert who said a seven point loss or less would be considered a win for Sanders.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
17. Wow. You really think he may lose his home state?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

That would be amazing, Especially after all those huge rallies.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
39. It's close enough that the 70,000 or so previously and newly registered Democrats who had their
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

registration changed mysteriously may be the difference for her. She can still pull out close races with the election shenanigans that always seem to favor her.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
11. Hillary won Michigan by 18 points among Democrats. Bernie beat her because of Independents.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

But MI was an open primary that allowed Indies to participate. NY is closed.

JoeOtterbein

(7,701 posts)
8. Judging by the Chris Hayes interview tonight..
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:23 PM
Apr 2016

with Tad Devine and Robbie Mook. It was hardball for Tad and softball for Robbie. Seems he got the memo from the big bosses at GE:

Hillary might lose NY!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
13. The more people learn about Bernie...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:36 PM
Apr 2016

The more they understand that there is someone that supports the 99% as compared to supporting the 1%.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
14. What doesn't make sense is if nationally its tied..
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:36 PM
Apr 2016

How can Bernie be down double digits in NY? He lost large Southern States like FL/TX/VA by 20-30%, and the South is largest region in the country. If he is tied nationally or close, he can't possible be down in NY/PA/NJ/MD by double digits as those state polls indicate.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
22. Last 7 polls in the last month have avg Clinton +2.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:00 PM
Apr 2016

This poll might be useless, but that certainty is a trend.

JoeOtterbein

(7,701 posts)
21. Andrea and Rachel on MSNBC right now...
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 09:59 PM
Apr 2016

I heard Andrea Greenspan say that the "poll could be wrong" when talking down Bernie's chances in NY tomorrow.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
37. The difference between the nation and New York?
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 10:57 PM
Apr 2016


Would think that would be kind of obvious - New York and the entire US are not the same thing...
 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
40. And a lot of democrats who aren't paying attention
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:09 PM
Apr 2016

Around half of them according to the latest polls.

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