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Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:40 PM Apr 2016

New York’s Mayor Responds as Brooklyn Voter Purge Doubles to 126,000

Source: U.S. Uncut

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio is demanding an explanation from the city’s Board of Elections after the purge of registered Democrats in Brooklyn has doubled from 63,000 to 126,000.

As US Uncut previously reported, Kings County, where Brooklyn is located, has seen a 7 percent drop in the number of registered Democratic voters between November 2015 and April 2016. But a new investigation by WNYC has revealed that the New York City Board of Elections actually purged 126,000 voters in that time period — a 14 percent drop in 5 months. Now, Mayor de Blasio is demanding to know why there was such a precipitous drop in registered voters just before the primary.

“This number surprises me,” de Blasio told WNYC. “I admit that Brooklyn has had a lot of transient population – that’s obvious. Lot of people moving in, lot of people moving out. That might account for some of it. But I’m confused since so many people have moved in, that the number would move that much in the negative direction.”

Kings County was just one of seven counties, out of a total of 63, where the number of registered Democrats fell, while registration increased in all other 56 counties. This is particularly odd, since Brooklyn — the home of Bernie Sanders, as well as the home of Hillary Clinton’s campaign headquarters — is a hotbed of political activity.


Read more: http://usuncut.com/politics/nyc-mayor-responds-to-brooklyn-voter-purge/



From 63,000 to 126,000... that's a shocking number that EVERY DEMOCRAT should decry! Real Democrats don't tolerate voter suppression!
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New York’s Mayor Responds as Brooklyn Voter Purge Doubles to 126,000 (Original Post) Bubzer Apr 2016 OP
Every one should.... daleanime Apr 2016 #1
some people aren't real democrats nt redruddyred Apr 2016 #22
all it takes is a few here and there to steal an election roguevalley Apr 2016 #2
And the real mission here is to find out how the voter purge occurred. mpcamb Apr 2016 #18
No. The real mission here is to count the votes that were supressed... Bubzer Apr 2016 #25
Yes!! Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #36
Damn... druidity33 Apr 2016 #64
I put it back. I missed it too. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #65
Yay! druidity33 Apr 2016 #69
Whatever it takes! Phlem Apr 2016 #3
That is fucked up! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #4
I wonder why we haven't heard from Brooklyn voters here WhiteTara Apr 2016 #5
From a Brooklyn voter jumptheshadow Apr 2016 #62
Thanks. I appreciate your info. nt WhiteTara Apr 2016 #67
This is an outrage! smirkymonkey Apr 2016 #6
Sanders Home Territory is Brooklyn! McKim Apr 2016 #7
Yes - evil underneath. 840high Apr 2016 #11
No, it isn't. Pre-election polls showed it was Hillary territory. The Russian immigrants who live pnwmom Apr 2016 #13
Really. Funny how they think they can hijack based on the premise that it was only Amimnoch Apr 2016 #57
I don't think anyone yet knows how or what exactly happened but you're right -- pnwmom Apr 2016 #60
No, not really jumptheshadow Apr 2016 #63
USA, USA, USA! LS_Editor Apr 2016 #8
Keep in mind that most countries don't require citizens to register to vote. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #9
We already know the reason egalitegirl Apr 2016 #10
Got any proof of your charges? leftynyc Apr 2016 #23
It has the same pattern.. Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #43
And given she doesn't hold leftynyc Apr 2016 #47
Way to alienate Bernie supporters! Well done! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #52
Spare me the drama queen bullshit leftynyc Apr 2016 #55
Were the names you were called justified? chwaliszewski Apr 2016 #61
No patience for bullshit leftynyc Apr 2016 #73
What percent of the remaining delegates does hillary need to acquire so win the nomination.. ?? berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #76
No idea leftynyc Apr 2016 #83
Perhaps your insulting, condescending tone is the problem chwaliszewski Apr 2016 #90
Using the term drama queen is misogyny egalitegirl Apr 2016 #72
LOL leftynyc Apr 2016 #74
So you support Trump's language egalitegirl Apr 2016 #81
Yawn leftynyc Apr 2016 #82
That is the frustrating part egalitegirl Apr 2016 #85
More bullshit leftynyc Apr 2016 #86
You mean Bill, not Hillary egalitegirl Apr 2016 #87
Thanks for outing yourself so leftynyc Apr 2016 #88
What is freeperland?? egalitegirl Apr 2016 #89
you are guilty of... berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #77
If only anyone here leftynyc Apr 2016 #78
Attitude challenged retort. Unseemly and unnecessary. libdem4life Apr 2016 #48
Actually it's much more likely it was Hillary's voters who got purged. Did you join DU to cause OregonBlue Apr 2016 #32
How do you figure that? Why would she purge her own supporters? Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #38
Perfect circular logic hack89 Apr 2016 #84
We were all newbies once. Welcome to DU! hedgehog Apr 2016 #49
Yep MissDeeds Apr 2016 #53
yeah, because Hillary polls badly among registered Democrats. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #58
+1 Zira Apr 2016 #70
Voter purge in Brooklyn, Bernie's home town? Nyan Apr 2016 #12
Does that mean that Sanders did the purge against Hillary or the other way around? Democat Apr 2016 #19
..... desmiller Apr 2016 #51
ROFL. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author DebJ Apr 2016 #14
Sellout Deblasio just covering his ass. Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #15
CYA-ing. Duppers Apr 2016 #54
Most establishment Dems looked the other way when voters were purged in FL 2000 deutsey Apr 2016 #16
These results should not be allowed! What do you do? You throw them out, vote over, or split it ViseGrip Apr 2016 #17
Stop with the drama queen bullshit leftynyc Apr 2016 #24
Yup, good chance Hillary voters got screwed too. So why are you so supportive of it? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #33
Observation of a righteous frothing is hardly indicative of support LanternWaste Apr 2016 #42
Works like this Scootaloo Apr 2016 #45
You're right. Dont let anyone else tell you othrwise. At least, not without proof anyway. Bubzer Apr 2016 #29
It's bullshit - "we have make sure this doesn't happen again". Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #40
Please choose your conspiracy theory from this list Democat Apr 2016 #20
I dont accept your framing. You're welcome to keep up with it in the dark reaches of my ignore list. Bubzer Apr 2016 #26
Nice dog whistle in your OP, "real Democrats" sounds just like "real Americans" the 'pug scum use winstars Apr 2016 #37
I used to ignore people who merely disagreed with me too- LanternWaste Apr 2016 #44
Voter purge 3hummingbirds Apr 2016 #21
Sadly, they actually do both. n/t JimDandy Apr 2016 #50
This is unforgivable apcalc Apr 2016 #27
Arizona Part Deux. And, of course, we never hear anything from that disaster...nt Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #28
Nothing's happened there to resolve the issue. It wont actually be resolved. Bubzer Apr 2016 #30
Something happening here WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #46
The meme for today is xloadiex Apr 2016 #31
All you really have to do is check 538 every few days. Hillary has remained about the same OregonBlue Apr 2016 #34
Please tell me what Bernie did that was mean and nasty - I keep hearing this with no evidence. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #41
He didn't do anything unspeakable. He just got much more sharp and unlikable? Have you been OregonBlue Apr 2016 #66
I've watched everything. He's just standing up for himself. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #68
I disagree. I think he's become quite agressive and pretty nasty of late. But you know what they OregonBlue Apr 2016 #91
Do you have any links that show him being quite agressive and pretty nasty of late? Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #92
His whole demeaner has changed. He's much angier. He doesn't smile much. He accuses and OregonBlue Apr 2016 #93
But you can't provide one example? Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #94
Yeah, I didn't think so. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #95
The answer is obvious.. Helen Borg Apr 2016 #35
It's not whether you win or lose, it is how you play the game. Pretty important game we are playing. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #39
Brooklyn is the most Democratic county in the country Renew Deal Apr 2016 #56
.. berniepdx420 Apr 2016 #79
Indeed Renew Deal Apr 2016 #80
Since he's a Clinton supporter, he should be OK with the suppression Doctor_J Apr 2016 #71
Kicking nt LiberalElite Apr 2016 #75

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
18. And the real mission here is to find out how the voter purge occurred.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

How it was done-

By whom-

How it can and will be replicated in November-

How to prevent that -no matter who the candidate is-

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
25. No. The real mission here is to count the votes that were supressed...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

to prove to anyone who thinks about performing such acts, that it will benefit them none. And to indict them and anyone involved for illegal activities.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
64. Damn...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

I really used to enjoy your delightful GIF of the woman from TYT. What's her name? Sorry you got rid of it...



WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
5. I wonder why we haven't heard from Brooklyn voters here
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

Only 500 or so calls to the AG office. There should be an absolute uprising from Brooklyn. That in itself seems weird. Maybe we'll hear more about it on msm news?

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
62. From a Brooklyn voter
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:08 PM
Apr 2016

Turnout was extremely low in my precinct, which is known for its political activism. There were about 300 Democratic voters in an area that saw excited voters wrapped around the block to vote for Obama in a past election. The count was roughly 60-40 for Clinton-Sanders. Nobody was handing out palm cards or information for any candidate.

I experienced no problems but have been voting Democratic for years. We voted on paper affidavits for this primary. The delegate portion was a bit confusing because the type was small. The text said, "Vote for any seven." Sanders had six pledged delegates and Clinton had seven.

In past years, there was one time when my name disappeared from the rolls for one election. I was extremely annoyed and felt disenfranchised. They did give me a provisional ballot. My point is that the system is imperfect and when it's your name that's left out it feels horrible.

As the Mayor noted, Brooklyn can be a transient place, as it is the area where many young professionals get their first apartments and/or start their families. However, to have 120,000 disappear from the rolls probably means there was either one heck of a glitch or an overly overdue updating of the voter rolls. I am glad that an investigation is underway. Personally, I have seen nothing but enthusiasm and respect for Sanders, even from Clinton voters. It will take a lot of solid evidence to convince me that there was a deliberate purge aimed at suppressing the vote.


 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. This is an outrage!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:47 PM
Apr 2016

There absolutely needs to be an investigation. I put nothing past these republican slimeballs. They will do anything to win an election.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
7. Sanders Home Territory is Brooklyn!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:54 PM
Apr 2016

I hope these voters start a substantial riot. This is election stealing on a grand scale. I called the DNC office and the comment line was busy but I sent them a scathing email. This is the nice face pulled off and revealing the evil underneath. Truly a watershed event for our country.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. No, it isn't. Pre-election polls showed it was Hillary territory. The Russian immigrants who live
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:57 PM
Apr 2016

in his old apartment building, among many others, don't feel any deep connection with the man who chose to leave NY state 50 years ago for college in Chicago and a lifetime of politics in Vermont.

P.S. She won 60% of the vote or more in ALL of the NYC boroughs, including Brooklyn.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
57. Really. Funny how they think they can hijack based on the premise that it was only
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

their supporters who were disenfranchised. Odds are this had every bit as much of a chance to impact Hillary just as much, and since it's purging of registered Democrats and not this new band of fair weather, I'm registering out of convenience Democrats, it likely impacted Hillary even more.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
60. I don't think anyone yet knows how or what exactly happened but you're right --
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:37 PM
Apr 2016

it probably impacted Hillary more because Brooklyn was an area where she did well.

Having left Brooklyn more than 50 years earlier to attend college in Chicago, Bernie didn't have much of a connection down there.

jumptheshadow

(3,269 posts)
63. No, not really
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:18 PM
Apr 2016

Look at the NY Times map:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/04/19/us/elections/new-york-city-democratic-primary-results.html#11/40.7100/-73.9800

The neighborhoods that trended towards Sanders were mostly places where younger white persons settle. The rents are more reasonable there. The areas with a high concentration of African Americans and/or high incomes went for Clinton. A large swath of Brooklyn is naturally Clintonian.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
10. We already know the reason
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio is demanding an explanation

Don't we already know the reason? Election Fraud and disenfranchising voters. The establishment has selected Hillary Clinton and are committing fraud to ensure she gets the nomination.
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. Got any proof of your charges?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

No, of course don't, newbie. Every single country in NYC went for Hillary - every single one. Chances are much better Hillary voters got screwed. Bernie did ok (broke even) upstate. Try another moronic charge.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
47. And given she doesn't hold
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

office in NY, how does that "pattern" work? I swear I've never seen a bigger bunch of pathetic sore losers. Even if Bernie had gotten every single of those 126,000 votes (laughable in a borough that Hillary won by a lot), he still would have lost by double digits. Suck it up.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
55. Spare me the drama queen bullshit
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:20 PM
Apr 2016

The names I've been called by the Bernie supporters would curl your toes if you think what I posted was bad. So not just sore losers, prima donna sore losers. Pathetic.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
61. Were the names you were called justified?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know you personally but you do seem to have an anger issue. Mint tea and a nice chat with a friend does wonders.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
73. No patience for bullshit
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:00 AM
Apr 2016

is what you call anger. That's not my problem. Would YOU think they were justified? From what I'm reading, probably. Still not my problem. Delusional thinking seems to be pretty common among the math challenged Bernie supporters.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
90. Perhaps your insulting, condescending tone is the problem
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

Had the tables been turned, would you want Hillary to continue on or quit for the sake of the party? This would be like the situation in 2008 when Hillary took it all the way to the convention. If Hillary is destined to win it all, then what are you worried about?

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
72. Using the term drama queen is misogyny
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:40 PM
Apr 2016

Drama queen is a misogynist and sexist term. I would expect Hillary supporters to use the term.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
74. LOL
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:01 AM
Apr 2016

I use that term for men and women who deserve it. You can feel offended at anything you like. I'm under no obligation to cater to your taboos.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
81. So you support Trump's language
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

All your opposition to Trump is then invalid. Your candidate is owned by Wall Street and war industry and her wars have caused genocides.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
82. Yawn
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:23 AM
Apr 2016

When did donnie ever even use that term? Your hyperbole and opinion on my vote means nothing to me.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
85. That is the frustrating part
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:30 AM
Apr 2016

In general, Bernie voters are highly intelligent while Hillary voters are low information and clueless that she is a neocon and Wall Street supporter and a very close friend and partner of the Bush family. These things matter to Bernie voters while Hillary voters mindlessly support her and are unable to even explain why they support her because they have been swayed by New York Times and CNN.


 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
86. More bullshit
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:36 AM
Apr 2016

Look, newbie. I'm going to give you the respect of a response even though you've basically called me ignorant (low information) and stupid (clueless). Your labels for her have been tossed around with such abandon, I simply yawn at them. I've been fighting for liberal causes probably since you've been in diapers. I long ago realized there are no perfect candidates and certainly not someone who decided to become a Democrat and use MY party for his own ends. I'm voting for Hillary because she's a fighter and has been fighting for causes I believe in and has been fighting them for decades. Do I agree with her on everything? Of course not. But I don't agree with Bernie on everything either so I have to make a choice in the primary (which I did on Tuesday). Your insults make me do nothing but roll my eyes and laugh. I couldn't possibly care less what an anonymous poster on the internet has to say about my vote. But keep insulting us - that's bound to bring me over to your side....in a galaxy far, far from here.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
87. You mean Bill, not Hillary
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:11 AM
Apr 2016

You probably mean Bill Clinton and not Hillary Clinton as the smart one. Hillary is no fighter. She was a Goldwater Republican. She also actually believed that a youtube video caused the Benghazi episode. It is clear that she was not in control of the situation and was fed some talking points which she completely believed. Let us be honest. Hillary would not be where she is if her husband had not been President. In this sense, she is similar to the women from Third World countries who only led their countries because their husbands were once the leaders.

Hillary stands for Wall Street, wars and is a partner of the Bush family. These are facts. She fights for them, not us.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
88. Thanks for outing yourself so
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:13 AM
Apr 2016

easily. Your talking points about that video regarding Benghazi tells everyone what they need to know about you - right from the fevered swamps of freeperland. Go bother someone else - you aren't worthy of my time.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
89. What is freeperland??
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

I googled for the word freeperland. What does it mean? The first website says no definition found and then gives the following sentence as an example, "The aggression of these Hillary-posers is much more common in Freeperland, and it's what gives them away." Doesn't seem to match up because you used it as an accusation against Bernie supporters.

Honestly, I have no idea what the word means. Care to elucidate? Who coined it and why?

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
32. Actually it's much more likely it was Hillary's voters who got purged. Did you join DU to cause
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

trouble? Or are you just clueless?

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
53. Yep
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Apr 2016

Good observations, and welcome to DU.

BTW, there is an "ignore" feature available. Feel free to use it "liberally".

Democat

(11,617 posts)
19. Does that mean that Sanders did the purge against Hillary or the other way around?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:46 AM
Apr 2016

Here's the way it can be spun:

Wow, voter purge in Sanders home town, he must have done it!
Wow, voter purge in Sanders home town, obviously Clinton wanted to stop his voters.
Wow, voter purge in the home of Hillary Clinton’s campaign headquarters, she must have done it!
Wow, voter purge in the home of Hillary Clinton’s campaign headquarters, obviously Sanders wanted to stop her voters.

All of them will get traction here on DU, so please be clear on which conspiracy you subscribe to.

Response to Bubzer (Original post)

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
16. Most establishment Dems looked the other way when voters were purged in FL 2000
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:10 AM
Apr 2016

They sure as hell won't do anything about this.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
17. These results should not be allowed! What do you do? You throw them out, vote over, or split it
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:17 AM
Apr 2016

even and move on!

No rewards for cheating, no calls for reform NEXT time. FIX THIS SITUATION NOW, AND LET IT BE KNOWN, FAILING ELECTIONS WILL BE TOSSED. NY DESERVES THIS. AND AGAIN, NOT A FECKING PEEP FROM HILLARY! BROOKLYN, WHERE SHE PLANTED HER CAMPAIGN HQ! REALLY HILLARY?????? NOT A PEEP, ANOTHER STATE WROUGHT WITH FRAUD? I HOPE SANDERS SUES!

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. Stop with the drama queen bullshit
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary won every single county in NYC - every one of them. Bernie did better upstate so chances are, Hillary voters were the ones who got screwed. Gonna have to pick another conspiracy theory to froth at the mouth about.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. Observation of a righteous frothing is hardly indicative of support
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

"So why are you so supportive of it?"
Observation of a righteous frothing is hardly indicative of support for voters getting screwed.

Seems the bias of the primary season has prevented many otherwise intelligent people from thinking rationally when it better suits these fictional and imaginary preconceptions allowing us to feel oh so much more clever about our choices.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
45. Works like this
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

1: See voters getting screwed.
2: See people upset with voters getting screwed.
3: Tell those people to shut the fuck up things are fine.

The response to the situation demonstrates support for that situation.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
40. It's bullshit - "we have make sure this doesn't happen again".
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:13 PM
Apr 2016

But it always DOES happen again!! The only way to stop it is to STOP IT NOW!

Aw, just let Hillary win, and we'll make sure his doesn't happen again. FUCK THAT SHIT! I want the FBI on the scene to determine WHO did the purge, and based on what criteria did they purge current registered voters! What about the people who's registrations were changed from Democrat to Independent? FIND OUT HOW THIS HAPPENED and WHO is responsible!!!

Otherwise there is going to be hell to pay in November.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
20. Please choose your conspiracy theory from this list
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:47 AM
Apr 2016

Voter purge in Sanders home town, he must have done it!
Voter purge in Sanders home town, obviously Clinton wanted to stop his voters.
Voter purge in the home of Hillary Clinton’s campaign headquarters, she must have done it!
Voter purge in the home of Hillary Clinton’s campaign headquarters, obviously Sanders wanted to stop her voters.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
26. I dont accept your framing. You're welcome to keep up with it in the dark reaches of my ignore list.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:14 AM
Apr 2016

Bye!

winstars

(4,220 posts)
37. Nice dog whistle in your OP, "real Democrats" sounds just like "real Americans" the 'pug scum use
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:07 PM
Apr 2016

all the time.

Good luck with President Trump!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
44. I used to ignore people who merely disagreed with me too-
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016

"it in the dark reaches of my ignore list."

I used to ignore people who merely disagreed with me too-- it was a fine example of my biases and an irrational lack of critical thought. Though no doubt, you'll allege a most righteous justification.

3hummingbirds

(58 posts)
21. Voter purge
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

Wow! How many states passed rotten voter ID laws claiming it helped stopped fraud where was no fraud? They should have saved their time and money and just purged their rolls.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
30. Nothing's happened there to resolve the issue. It wont actually be resolved.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:31 AM
Apr 2016

The suppressed vote will remain suppressed.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
46. Something happening here
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

and what it is we're not really sure.
There's a man with a gun over there, telling us to beware

xloadiex

(628 posts)
31. The meme for today is
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie going negative is what did him in in NY. Not a word about voter suppression. Its amazing how the Clinton camp seems to be ok with this. It's not just suppression either. There were other things in play also. After seeing exit polling I'll never believe those totals.

I'll never hand my vote over to someone who has to cheat to win or a candidate who is actively under an FBI investigation.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
34. All you really have to do is check 538 every few days. Hillary has remained about the same
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

for the last few months. Sanders has come up some but it was mostly lots of media hype that he had a chance of winning NY. Just because people repeat something often enough doesn't make it true. Hillary is also calling, very loudly, for an investigation. I suspect it was her voters who got purged. So lets all settle down and find out what happened so it doesn't happen again.

I've been pretty shocked at just how negative Bernie has gone. I love him and one of the things I liked about him the best was his refusal to get mean and nasty. I'm not feeling the Bern quite so much myself.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
41. Please tell me what Bernie did that was mean and nasty - I keep hearing this with no evidence.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

I don't even care about evidence at this point - I just want to know what that Ogre Bernie did that is so unspeakable that no one will tell me.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
66. He didn't do anything unspeakable. He just got much more sharp and unlikable? Have you been
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:22 PM
Apr 2016

watching him? He's been super accusatory and aggressive and dismissive and just plain nasty. I still like him but now that he's rolling around in the mud, I just don't like him nearly as much.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
91. I disagree. I think he's become quite agressive and pretty nasty of late. But you know what they
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

say about opinions. LOL.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
92. Do you have any links that show him being quite agressive and pretty nasty of late?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:23 AM
Apr 2016

I'm very curious, I perplexed too.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
93. His whole demeaner has changed. He's much angier. He doesn't smile much. He accuses and
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

frowns and seems angry and kinda mean. Not the Bernie I've always loved.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
35. The answer is obvious..
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:40 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton machine tentacles. This is my opinion, and I believe it will be proven correct.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
39. It's not whether you win or lose, it is how you play the game. Pretty important game we are playing.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016
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