Our Democratic primary is collateral damage from a much more sinister problem. We have to insist that these issues be fixed.

Hillary, Bernie, and the DNC have filed suit in Arizona. We need to take those suits nationwide.

The childish preoccupation with Hillary provides cover for the actual plan, which is Republicans disenfranchising Democrats.

The real war is between the progressives and the conservatives. The oligarchy prefers Clinton to Trump. Mr. Goldman-Sach-O-Gold himself said the oligarchy would be pleased with Bush or Clinton. Either establishment candidate that is in their pocket was ok.

Those stealing elections are the oligarchy and they won't bat an eye to steal one for Clinton.

got their fee up front.

Where all branches, everything to do with the election is controlled by the GOP, yet Hillary still gets blamed.

Democrats who are supporting Hillary..I have voted in New York State for 42 years and I have never heard of this type of massive disenfranchisement. There have been isolated issues over the years but nothing on this scale. This primary stinks to high heavens.

with this shit, which always magically works in her favor.

They use chaos as a cover while they steal the election

It probably hurt her campaign more, since the suppression targeted minorities.

Indicated Bernie supporters were targeted.
Chi Bono?

In AZ her base was older White voters. Everyone in line who didnt vote early and was disenfranchised were young voters and Bernie supporters...90% according to press reports. Hillary did well with Black voters in the deep South...not Hispanics as much.

Your wild accusations, poor spelling, and ungrammatical sentence construction make it comical.

So no, her base wasn't just older White voters.


And no, everyone in line wasn't Bernie voters.

it's in the bag for you Queen.

has been to the benefit of HRC. But yeah, it's all nothing but a big coinkydink.

You would realize that the area of concern is controlled by a REPUBLICAN.

We dont care what you "think". Facts matter. The fact is Hillary in her senate race had more votes than voters in her district and many precincts that vote 100% for her. Do you not know this? Do you not study election results and secretary of state vote matrices? Well many people do. It had nothing to do with republicans then. Its called cheating and like most liars she probably cheats or her surrogates do....those who want her elected are Wall St execs and Military contractors...you think they are playing paddy cake? Im so sick of people like you who claim everything is always rosy when you don't know what youre talking about.

...who you're going to vote for and if you say "Sanders" they take a hammer, smash your car, kill your dog, and tear up your ballot.

Because we have such honest and upstanding Sanders voters who are all for democracy whenever they win, we shouldn't even hold primaries. We should just declare Sanders President and official "progressive" God, turn off the TV and wait for Nirvana to break out.

Have a nice day tomorrow.

It is the habit of people who lose everywhere to make excuses, whether it's an election, or something else.

This is not really news; it's been going on since the dawn of human time.

If I were denied the right to vote honestly, it would still be the case that the denied vote would been for Ms. Clinton, since the issue of primary importance to me is climate change, and Senator Sanders proposals for dealing with it are disastrous. This fact conflicts with the rote, and frankly unjustified assumption, that anyone who is denied a vote is automatically a Sanders supporter. This is the raison d'etre for my jibe.

I am often informed by Sanders supporters, on hearing this, that I'm stupid, ill-informed, etc, etc.

They are so myopic that they can't believe that anyone has an honest disagreement with them. I've spent 30 years obsessively considering the options where Energy and the Environment are concerned, collecting a vast array of papers from the primary scientific literature to develop my views, and I find the objections of Sanders supporters to my views to be delusional, if nothing else. Right now the climate is collapsing at the highest rate ever observed. Sorry, but that upsets me, because Sanders proposals of "more of the same" didn't work, isn't working and won't work.

I am relieved, greatly relieved, that it is increasingly unlikely that the planet will have to suffer from a Sanders Presidency.

Have a nice day.

It's the Sanders crowd who carries on that Ms. Clinton is a monster worse than Trump.

If Sanders should because of his magical connection to God - at least as his worshipers would have it - actually win the nomination - which happily he won't - I would be forced to vote for his scientifically illiterate ass, making this the worst election choice since Dukakis ran against Bush I.

But it won't happen. Ms. Clinton will kick Trump's ass.

I held my nose and voted for Dukakis in 1988, and I suppose I could hold my nose and vote for Sanders 28 years later, even if I have learned infinitely more science than I knew in 1988. There are, in fact, some things I like about Senator Sanders, and one gets used to voting for the lesser of two evils, as one must often do, unless, of course, one is a purity "progressive" who do stupid ass things like vote for that idiot Nader in 2000.

I am more aware than most "progressives" - they wouldn't know progress if it bit them in the ass - what happened between 2001 and 2009. While Nader was on his quest to change NBA officiating, I was protesting the war and weeping when it came. This said, I've heard these awful flakes who voted for that Jack T. Ripper wannabe, actually blame the Iraq war on Gore.

The Sanders crowd likes to carry on that he is the only strong candidate in this election; but he's apparently not strong enough to beat Ms. Clinton. That says everything one needs to know, unless, of course, one is totally self absorbed to the point of thinking that other people's votes don't matter.

He's a weak candidate, since if he wasn't, he wouldn't be losing.

Have a nice evening.

...very well.

It stands to reason actually, given that they endorse a candidate whose record on climate change involves supporting a change in the only state in the Union that didn't use dangerous fossil fuels into one that now depends on electricity generated by burning dangerous natural gas.

If that bad hair racist becomes President of the United States, which won't happen, the reason will be because the same idiots who were responsible for the disaster of 2000 railed mindlessly slurring the Presidential candidate and voting for someone whose scientific knowledge is at the same level as Nader's, i.e., nonexistent.

Because Sanders is a loser, we can at least avoid a President dedicated to destroying the world's largest, by far, form of climate change gas free energy, nuclear energy.

I can't really help dummies who can't tell the difference between Donald racist Trump and Hillary Clinton, the next President of the United States.

This conversation is concluded; I think I'll use this opportunity, for the 4th time in my long tenure at DU, to exercise my right to use the ignore key to ignore yet another crank who despises the Democratic Candidate.

But before I go, let me leave you with the perfect video that clearly evokes the Sanders candidacy:

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going to vote for and craftily destroy all the Bernie registrations. I don't know yet if the magical 'they' are The Illuminati, The Bildeberg Group, Debbie Wasserman or Chelsea Clinton, but I'm sure it will all become clear in the next edition of World Nut Daily.

One of the most important factors for democracy is that people have faith in the electoral system. Way too many screw-ups in this primary cycle. How can so many voter registrations get screwed up?? The amazing technology we have and we can't conduct an efficient voter registration.

These kind of issues need to be fixed not only in NY & AZ but anywhere it happens. I agree.

I think you're being willfully disingenuous, pretending this isn't a valid report. But hey, it's your rose-colored glasses...wear em if you want to.

sites for a long time now. Why not put in what the Washington Examiner had to say?

Right. Okay. Off to la la land you go. Enjoy your delusions full well in the knowledge that not only do I not share them, but you will no longer get to share your "opinion" with me. Welcome to ignore. Population +1 disingenuous Hillary supporter (here's a hint... the +1 is you). So long!

the other problems that Stringer cited in a Tuesday letter to the board."

Why are you a liar?

with 20,000,000 or so voters didn't have some 'faulty ballot scanners', ;late opening polling locations' and
'scant staffing'. It happens.

Please, tell us more.

You realize y'all have said this now for months.

The exit polls suggest a close race even if she wins. The delegates are proportionate. He is not going anywhere.

Just because he doesn't realize it doesn't change the facts.

That is why Clinton went full on 'discredit & disqualify.'

That is why Clinton surrogates went full on rat-fuckery.

That is why Clinton supporters went full on PopeGate.

Yup, totally irrelevant, yup, totally!

At least 60-40.

Looks like a landslide.

and only NYC projecting, let's wait and see smart boy!

I expect a Clinton win. I expect a net gain for her of about 40 delegates. And the race continues. Hardly the blowout or landslide that was predicted.

Now, Sanders only needs to win, what, 75% of the remaining delegates?

Didn't Sanders say he would win NY?

No he did not.

You were saying?

so I trust them a lot more than you.

She is ahead 29. There are still 44 uncommitted and 10 still available as of 22:30 PST.

You were saying?

29 delegates above Sanders in her landslide victory in her home state? Wow, she just barely eeked out enough to offset her loses in WA and NV.

Keep using your Rolf smilie if it makes you feel better, but it's laughing at you and no one else.

NYT says 31 at this point.

to a factual contradiction of yours. Instead you throw up insults. So typical of a Clinton supporter. Thanks for once again reminding me why I will never vote for her.

And CNN says net 31 as of 9AM EDT...

I'll vote for either of them in the general, but I prefer my facts to be reality based.

even matter in this sub thread? No where of course.

NY is not Sanders state. He is senator and has lived in VT for decades. And he beat Hillary so badly there she got ZERO delegates.

Clinton considers NY home and she was senator there. She beat him but only gained a net 31 delegates.

All of my facts have been dead on.

So vote for who ever you want, and I will do the same, based on reality.

Your "facts" have put you dead wrong.

"29 delegates above Sanders in her landslide victory in her home state?"

Clinton netted 31 delegates, just as the other poster said, and NY is not Clinton's home state, but Sanders was born in Brooklyn.

Sorry that reality doesn't seem to agree with your world view.

Yes, she netted 31 delegates. That is not a major amount. You get that right? She didn't blow him away. She didn't end the primary last night.

I know that is hard to stomach but that is the truth.

And yes, NY is Clinton's 'home state' as that is where she lives and was Senator. Just as Sanders lives and has been mayor, rep, and now Senator of VT.

Again, I am sorry that reality is not in your favor on this. Try to keep up. Lordy!

Hopefully people will be nice to you as you ramble down the sidewalks, muttering to yourself.

This fucker just implied I have a mental illness and disparaged those who do so and are unfortunately enough to end up on the streets because of neoliberalism whether it is Reagan flavored or Clinton flavored.

Let me guess, y'all will jury me because of the word fucker, but you will let his post stand, am I right?

You are yet another stellar example of why there will be zero unity and your candidate might win a Pyrrhic victory but will go down in the GE.

Facts aren't on your side so you resort to calling me a fucker. Nice.

Have a nice life.

attacked you after your last post to me?!

Fuck me, that is rich! Yeah, I hope you have a shitty one and get your just deserts. You are not a pleasant or honest person.

that add more people to the very large group of people that will refuse to vote for Hillary.

Sanders supporters. They'll only support Hillary as the nominee if Sanders is the nominee.

Hillary doesn't need the votes of the zealous Sanders crowd to win the nomination or to win the presidency. You have an inflated opinion of your importance to the GE. She's doing just fine without you in the primaries, and she'll do fine without you in the general.

But, hey, don't vote for her. That's your perogative.

I am beginning to wonder if a lot of the pro Hillary people on here who are gloating in nasty ways are actually right wing trolls bent on alienating possible Hillary voters. Are they for real? It is hard to know.

And if the candidate that seemed to be benefiting were on the neocons' bad side?

The shrieking screams of fraud, dictatorship, and rogue state would be coming from every newspaper and news outlet in the country.

But, it's happening here at home - and the beneficiary is Hillary Goldman Clinton. Nothin' to see here.

This is what collapse looks like. Roads that can't be traversed, schools that cannot teach, water that makes you sick, a hollow shell of democracy, and screaming idiots full of sound and fury...

Yet, as throughout history, many, many people continue to sing and dance to the music of impending doom.

It was ever thus...

The plutocrats are almost done hallowing the country out.

building game, the 99%.

so wonderfully examined in the epic writings of Arnold Toynbee.

Its been forever in the periphery, and I just never got around to it. Thanks.

It's sad but undeniably true.

What a surprise, those voters just happen to reside in Brooklyn, Senator Sanders home territory. I am shocked I tell you, shocked to see election stealing in New York. This does it for me. This is no accident and after the Oregon primary I will leave the Democratic Party after 50 years!

Satire. But based on the state of voting in this country, not far from the truth.

Thousands of New Yorkers Registered as Automatic Hillary Voters

The Shrillaries call it a conspiracy theory... Smh.... Nothing to see here.. Move along!

The Clinton supports don't give a shit as long as their horse is winning.

The article you linked to has no mention of irregularities.
Either they changed it or you linked to the wrong one.
[link:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-new-york-comptroller-idUSKCN0XG2ML| this article mentions irregularities.

Thee would be no "irregularities"

How can this be a valid election?

and not give us the empty rhetoric of making sure it doesn't happen in future. That isn't any good. Those purged voters need to be allowed to cast their vote for this election. There should be a make up day to correct this. Otherwise it is just blah blah talk and no action.

over a million were purged.