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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:07 PM Apr 2016

Religious group sues San Francisco over open-air urinal

Source: Associated Press

Religious group sues San Francisco over open-air urinal

Olga R. Rodriguez, Associated Press

Updated 7:18 pm, Tuesday, April 19, 2016

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A religious organization sued the city of San Francisco to remove an open-air urinal from a popular park that it calls unsanitary and indecent.

The Chinese Christian Union of San Francisco filed a civil complaint last week demanding the city remove the concrete circular urinal from iconic Dolores Park.

The group says the urinal, which is out in the open and screened only with plants for privacy, "emanates offensive odors," ''has no hand-washing facilities" and "it's offensive to manners and morals."

The lawsuit alleges that the item installed in February discriminates against women and the disabled and exposes those who use it to "shame and embarrassment."



Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Religious-group-sues-San-Francisco-over-open-air-7256542.php

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Religious group sues San Francisco over open-air urinal (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2016 OP
I think it is horrible and i'm glad the groups are suing the city. trueblue2007 Apr 2016 #1
Well, piss... silvershadow Apr 2016 #2
I would rather the smell of pee be in one area than all over the freakin place Kalidurga Apr 2016 #3
There are bathrooms nearby Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2016 #12
Yeah, because having them piss all over the place smells SO much better Warpy Apr 2016 #4
There are few characteristics that unite all specimens of species Homo sapiens... DreamGypsy Apr 2016 #5
I, too, was a library page Warpy Apr 2016 #7
Were you an odd or even numbered page? ... DreamGypsy Apr 2016 #8
lower case Roman numerals Warpy Apr 2016 #9
Flimsy grounds for a lawsuit. Will get laughed out of court Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #6
wwjp. olddad56 Apr 2016 #10
There's a Crusader headed your way to make short work of you for writing "wwjp." Judi Lynn Apr 2016 #11
wwtcp olddad56 Apr 2016 #14
Pretty gross B2G Apr 2016 #13
I've been to downtown SF ripcord Apr 2016 #15

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. I would rather the smell of pee be in one area than all over the freakin place
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:25 PM
Apr 2016

That being said they need to make more bathrooms for everyone and I suppose this won't be an issue.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
4. Yeah, because having them piss all over the place smells SO much better
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016

It would be nice if they accommodated women, but we gentle flowers of sweet womanhood know men don't think we have to pee.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
5. There are few characteristics that unite all specimens of species Homo sapiens...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

... but urination, defecation, and death are certainly three.

I was made aware of this fact at about the age of 14, when I was working (@75 cents/hour) as a Page at the Idaho Falls, Idaho, public library...(yeah, yeah the old joke is: If you work real hard as a Page, you could eventually be promoted to a Chapter). Pages did things like fetch books that patrons requested and reshelve returned books.

It's almost fifty years gone now, but I still remember reshelving a copy of D.H. Lawrence's Lady Chatterly's Lover in the ...uh, special collection...in the basement of the library. I don't recall how, but I did chance upon this passage:

All the while he spoke he exquisitely stroked the roundedtail, till it seemed as if a slippery sort of fire came from it into his hands. And his finger-tips touched the two secret openings to her body, time after time, with a soft little
brush of fire. ’An’ if tha shits an’ if tha pisses, I’m glad. I don’t want a woman as couldna shit nor piss.’

Connie could not help a sudden snort of astonished laughter, but he went on unmoved. Here tha shits an’ here tha pisses: an’ I lay my hand on ‘em both an’ I like thee for it. I like thee for it. Tha’s got a proper, woman’s arse, proud of itself. It’s none ashamed of itself this isna.’ He laid his hand close and firm over her secret places, in a kind of close greeting.

’I like it,’ he said. ‘I like it! An’ if I only lived ten minutes, an’ stroked thy arse an’ got to know it, I should reckon I’d lived ONEl ife, see ter! Industrial system or not! Here’s one o’ my lifetimes.’ She turned round and climbed into his lap, clinging to him. ‘Kiss me!’ she whispered. And she knew the thought of their separation was latent in both their minds, and at last she was sad.
She sat on his thighs, her head against his breast, and her ivory-gleaming legs loosely apart, the fire glowing unequally upon them. Sitting with his head dropped, he looked at the folds of her body in the fire-glow, and at the fleece of soft brown hair that hung down to a point between her open thighs. He reached to the table behind, and took up
her bunch of flowers, still so wet that drops of rain fell on to her.
’Flowers stops out of doors all weathers,’ he said. ‘They have no houses.’
’Not even a hut!’ she murmured.

With quiet fingers he threaded a few forget-me-not flowers in the fine brown fleece of the mound of Venus.
’There!’ he said. ‘There’s forget-me-nots in the right place!’

She looked down at the milky odd little flowers among the brown maiden-hair at the lower tip of her body.



So, to those who claim that:

The open-air urination hole violates the privacy of those who need to use the restroom but would be required to expose their bodies and suffer shame and degradation of urinating in public view,"


I say, wake up and touch the roses.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
7. I, too, was a library page
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:23 AM
Apr 2016

but I'd already discovered "the stacks" a couple of years earlier. It's where I discovered Twain's "1601" and "The Unexpurgated Dictionary of American Slang," a book that kept me out of more trouble than any high minded book pushed at little girls ever did.

I'd forgotten that passage in "Lady Chatterly." I do know it's the one book that salvaged Lawrence for me.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
8. Were you an odd or even numbered page? ...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:34 AM
Apr 2016

My sister and brother both worked at the library before me...so I was definitely odd!
 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
6. Flimsy grounds for a lawsuit. Will get laughed out of court
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:01 AM
Apr 2016
"emanates offensive odors," - well, what do you expect from a bathroom there, skippy?

"has no hand-washing facilities" - then petition the city to put in a water fountain to do the job.

"it's offensive to manners and morals." - Oh, for the love of the invisible Sky Daddy. . .just stop right there. Don't impose your morals and manners on me. And if manners is grounds for a lawsuit, I can sue anyone who never said please, thank you or you're welcome to me.

What is this bullshit?

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
11. There's a Crusader headed your way to make short work of you for writing "wwjp."
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

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ripcord

(5,408 posts)
15. I've been to downtown SF
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

What I want to know is how you are supposed to tell the urinal from the rest of the urine soaked city?

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