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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:13 PM Apr 2016

Russia Warns U.S. Over Naval Incident As NATO Tensions Laid Bare

Source: Reuters

By Robin Emmott

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Russia accused the United States on Wednesday of intimidation by sailing a U.S. naval destroyer close to Russia's border in the Baltics and warned that the Russian military would respond with "all necessary measures" to any future incidents.

Speaking after a meeting between NATO envoys and Russia, their first in almost two years, Moscow's ambassador to NATO said the April 11 maritime incident showed there could be no improvement in ties until the U.S.-led alliance withdrew from Russia's borders.

"This is about attempts to exercise military pressure on Russia," the envoy, Alexander Grushko, said. "We will take all necessary measures, precautions, to compensate for these attempts to use military force," he told reporters.

U.S. Ambassador to NATO Douglas Lute pressed Russia about the incident, warning it had been dangerous. The United States has said the guided missile destroyer USS Cook was on routine business near Poland when it was harassed by Russian jets.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-warns-u-over-baltic-maneuvers-ready-necessary-140704706.html

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Russia Warns U.S. Over Naval Incident As NATO Tensions Laid Bare (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2016 OP
It's beginning to look like Putin wants a war with NATO red dog 1 Apr 2016 #1
Close to the border doesn't mean inside the border. WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #2
The bright side: Turbineguy Apr 2016 #3
I remember someone once mentioning glinda Apr 2016 #5
We had to dodge the fucking fighter plane Grushko sharp_stick Apr 2016 #4
So now the Russians are demanding we expel the Baltic countries geek tragedy Apr 2016 #6
Maybe Putin should send a few large Navy vessels nyabingi Apr 2016 #7
I was about to say the same. ffr Apr 2016 #8
We are not getting how seriously threatened the Russian's feel newthinking Apr 2016 #10
I bet the US fighters didn't do any barrel rolls over the Russians. EX500rider Apr 2016 #12
But if they did, there would be outrage about it being reckless provocative PersonNumber503602 Apr 2016 #14
Who exactly did you think has more allies on the Baltic? EX500rider Apr 2016 #11
WEll, they have.... Adrahil Apr 2016 #13
There is a difference between nyabingi Apr 2016 #15
Don't get Obama angry Blandocyte Apr 2016 #9

red dog 1

(27,817 posts)
1. It's beginning to look like Putin wants a war with NATO
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

Can the bastard be that stupid?

K&R, thanks for posting, Purveyor

glinda

(14,807 posts)
5. I remember someone once mentioning
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:51 PM
Apr 2016

"Russia as the biggest threat". hmmmmmm.....the War to end all wars. And put the final nail in the environment's coffin.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. So now the Russians are demanding we expel the Baltic countries
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:32 PM
Apr 2016

from NATO?

Posturing from a decaying empire.

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
7. Maybe Putin should send a few large Navy vessels
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:01 PM
Apr 2016

to carry out "routine business" in the waters off of DC and NY.

I think if other countries starting doing to us what we do to them then maybe some Americans would actually be able to put themselves in the shoes of others.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
8. I was about to say the same.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016

Less Cuba, I don't think there are any U.S. neighbors where they could perform joint Warsaw Pact exercises like we're doing with Poland, a former Warsaw Pact member (1955- 1990) from the Soviet Union days. If they performed unilateral exercises off DC or NY, that would be provoking. On that note:

July Fourth message not the first from Russian bombers
<snip>
On June 4, 2014, U.S. fighter jets intercepted Russian bombers off Alaska and California following a string of aerial encounters over the Pacific.

According to U.S. defense officials, four long-range Russian Tu-95 Bear-H bombers, accompanied by an aerial refueling tanker, flew into the U.S. Air Defense Identification Zone, an area extending 200 miles from the North American coast, off Alaska, where they were intercepted by U.S. F-22 fighter jets.

Two of the Russian bombers peeled off and headed west, while the other two flew south and were identified by U.S. F-15 fighters within 50 miles of the California coast.
<snip>
Davis said the Russian planes were entirely within their rights, and it was a professional encounter on both sides. He said in 2014 that Russian flights into the air defense zone are intercepted about 10 times a year. CNN.COM Updated July 23, 2015


newthinking

(3,982 posts)
10. We are not getting how seriously threatened the Russian's feel
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:52 PM
Apr 2016

Justified or not we had better pay attention.

Russians do not generally make this kind of direct challenge unless they are going to back it up. There is an "incident" in the waiting.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
14. But if they did, there would be outrage about it being reckless provocative
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

and rightfully so. It's different when Russia does it though, because they are on the side of good.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
11. Who exactly did you think has more allies on the Baltic?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Russia, Sweden....

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
13. WEll, they have....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-ship-may-be-mapping-united-states-commucations-cables-florida/

http://blog.al.com/wire/2014/04/russian_spy_ship_operating_nea.html

I like this quote form the U.S. official:

"We respect the freedom of all nations, as reflected in international law, to operate military vessels beyond the territorial seas of other nations."

Kind of a different tone, eh?

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
15. There is a difference between
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:58 AM
Apr 2016

a ship spying or doing mapping operations and a fully-armed destroyer.

Plus, if the Russians had military bases in Canada and Mexico and were trying bring all of Latin America into an anti-American military alliance, I'd probably be able to see where you're coming from.

We have war ships near Russia and China because we're trying to intimidate them. Stop making excuses for our bad behavior.

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