Poll: Clinton leads Sanders in Pennsylvania
Source: cnn
Poll: Clinton leads Sanders in Pennsylvania
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/20/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-pennsylvania-poll/index.html
Eric Bradner
By Eric Bradner, CNN
Updated 1:30 PM ET, Wed April 20, 2016
Story highlights
Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders in Pennsylvania, 52% to 39%, a Monmouth poll shows
The poll was conducted before Clinton's win in the New York primary
Washington (CNN)................
Among likely Democratic primary voters in the Keystone State, Clinton has 52% support to Sanders' 39%.
Fueling Clinton's lead is a major gender gap. The former secretary of state holds a 61% to 32% edge among women, compared to Sanders' smaller 50% to 41% advantage with men.
Clinton also outperforms Sanders with voters aged 50 and older, leading that group 57% to 33%, while Sanders' lead with those younger than 50 is just 48% to 46%.
Both these trends mirror voting results.
Similar to New York, where Clinton notched a dominant victory on Tuesday, the former secretary of state has an important advantage in Pennsylvania: It's a closed primary, which means only registered Democrats can participate. It's a rule that bars Sanders from bringing a crush of independents to the polls on his behalf, as he has in many of the states he's won.
"After her win in New York this week, these numbers in nearby Pennsylvania suggest that the entire northeast is looking pretty good for the Clinton campaign," Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute, said in a statement accompanying the poll's release. ...............
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seekthetruth
(504 posts)NNadir
(33,525 posts)Anyone supporting his brand of climate nonsense is completely unfamiliar with the science or scale of the problem.
I note that the policies he endorsed in his state caused Vermont to go from being the only state in the Union that did not dump dangerous fossil fuel waste into the atmosphere to generate electricity into one that is now dependent on dangerous natural gas generated electricity.
The major reason that I can't stomach Sanders is, in fact, his climate policy, which is, frankly, delusional.
seekthetruth
(504 posts)....and Bill Clinton signed that into law. Both were wrong. Nick picking isn't something I do to choose a president.
Hillary's approach to governing isn't what this country needs right now.
NNadir
(33,525 posts)Policies that extend the reliance on dangerous fossil fuels beyond the disastrous level at which they already are, are policies that appall me.
I care far less about single payer health care, blah, blah, blah, than I care about the planetary atmosphere.
Nobody's health care bills will matter if there is nothing to eat, or cities are under water.
In Vermont, they are now more dependent on natural gas than ever for electricity. Sanders applauded this, called for it in fact, and is still calling for it, looking to extend the same bad, if popular, ideas to the entire country, in fact, the entire planet.. He has obviously, while protesting this and protesting that, never stopped to open a science book or paper.
Here's a paper he obviously hasn't read, one about the saving 1.8 million lives:
Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 48894895
Ms. Clinton was in the room when Nobel Laureate former Secretary of Energy Steven Chu was speaking. Obviously the Obama administration got it, even if Sanders remains clueless. The fact that Ms. Clinton was there means a hell a lot more to me than endless repetition of crank dogma.
I couldn't care less about the trivial stuff; climate change is the most important issue before humanity right now, and Sanders proposals are rote. They didn't work, they aren't working, and they won't work.
Sanders approach to the environment isn't what the planet needs right now.
yardwork
(61,648 posts)NNadir
(33,525 posts)liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)Kevin
?@KevinDarryl
According to @FiveThirtyEight's latest polls-plus forecast, Hillary Clinton has a 91% chance of winning Pennsylvania
onehandle
(51,122 posts)My wife and I will walk over to the church next Tuesday morning and vote for Hillary.
My registration is Democratic.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)hrc guy
(73 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)apnu
(8,758 posts)What do we think the split will be?
Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)It said, " I Do Not Believe in Hillary 2016".
DCBob
(24,689 posts)They just show up to vote.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Went to both Bill and later Hillary rally because they were within 5 miles from me. No one was there except local government officials. Meanwhile Obama was packing High Schools and had the massive outdoor rally at the Liberty Bell in Philly.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)Hillary supporters were using Democratic HQ space and phones to make calls and conduct other business...big no no.
Hillary supporters, some who I had known for years and worked with in prior elections, didn't even want to SPEAK to me, and glared with such great hostility it was alarming.
So she's had a strong ground presence of supporters for a long time. And I think she won PA in 2008?
So sad.
On Edit: yes, Barack lost PA by 10 points in 2008
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Obama won Philly, Pittsburgh, and Erie. She won the rest but it wasn't enough. Now things are flipped, Bernie beats her outside of cities. So he can win it if he keeps close in Philly.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)In the end, Hillary Clinton won the primary by 9.28 percentage points, a wider margin than expected than recent polls suggested, but smaller than most January and February polls. Despite her victory, she gained only nine delegates on Obama
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Democratic_primary,_2008
We did manage to vote for Obama for the general election. But we had tons of help; people from Maryland poured into our city and we went arm in arm, door to door, young people with old, black with white, literally arm-in-arm, and literally walked people from their homes to the polling place, as most had never voted before. One of the most wonderful experiences of my life. Right up there with having children, meeting and introducing Ted Kennedy, and meeting Obama and Howard Dean.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)...and the voted DEMOCRATIC!!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Cool allegation. Yet it's necessary to note, we often see only that which validates our biases.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Bernie won. So much for the polls.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Bernie doesnt do well with actual Democrats in an actual primary.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)(small farmers for whom he has stood up over the years for example) that we need to field him and not Hillary who is so vulnerable to the right-wing hate radio punditry in November.
I am an actual, life-long, 72-year-old Democrat born while FDR was still in the White House.
I back Bernie. It depends a lot on the generation.
The Reagan generation is very frightened of the right-wingers. They were not raised by parents like mine who admired FDR and spoke of him with admiration to the ends of their lives.
We need to rekindle the spirit of FDR. Bernie is doing that.
Hillary -- as dry and boring as her voice. (I am a musician and was a singer, so I hear a lot more in voices than most do. Hillary's voice gives her away, especially her dry, cackle laugh. Not someone I want in the White House. Not much timbre, not much love, not much caring. Now Obama -- his voice tells you who he is and he is one wonderful human being. I can guarantee you that although he has done things and appointed people I do not like. When it comes to his human caring and human soul, he is the best. Jimmy Carter is not as confident in his voice as Obama, but also a wonderful human being, and you can tell it from his voice, if you have the ear for that. The voice is the product of a lot of factors, some physical and some spiritual. That's why it tells you so much about a person. Bernie is a hard worker. His voice tells you that. He does not have a lazy bone in his body. He wears his voice out because he is a person who puts so much energy into communicating. He will be a loved and great president.)
So that is what I think.
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)Serious question.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Cruz sounds like an old-time evangelist. He has the tone down, but there is no integration between him and his voice. The voice is a voice he has learned. That is why I think there is a good chance he will be the actual nominee. He has the voice of a very successful fundamentalist preacher. He is, of course, a scoundrel. His voice drips in honey but he is not even a nice person much less a really good one.
okasha
(11,573 posts)That says everything we need to know--about you.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)use them for pressing the argument that Independents will vote for Bernie and not for Hillary in the GE?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Polls are only accurate of course, when they read well for Sanders. All the others are, by definition, conveniently flawed.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)It's too difficult for pollsters to predict which voters are going to jump through all the hoops.
So in many of those caucus states you just mentioned, they didn't even bother to conduct polls.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)probably would have had an even bigger margin if so many votes in Brooklyn hadn't gotten purged. But she got 60% anyway, along with similar or higher numbers in ALL the NYC boroughs..
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)so far, besides MI, they have been predicting accurately. and even in MI, their prediction based on demographics, had him winning.
406-Boz
(53 posts)On the Democratic side, Clinton fares only slightly better with a net negative of -21, registering a 31% favorable rating and a 52% unfavorable rating, according to the poll.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/22/politics/2016-election-poll-donald-trump-hillary-clinton/
DCBob
(24,689 posts)and most importantly stops bashing her.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)At least not before PA. If he gets crushed in next Tuesday's primaries it might be a different story.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I think he should follow the Hillary 08 model and keep fighting until all the votes are counted, then bow out with grace if she comes out ahead.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I thought she was campaigning on her experience, after all.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Honk---------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)She isn't a newcomer. People have their opinions of her. They don't like her. They still might vote for her, but those numbers will move by a few if any at all.
Hell, 4 in 10 said a Trump Presidency would be scary last night.. Then they voted for him.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)These kind of poll don't really mean that much except for bragging rights.
Hillary is going to have high unfavorables in any poll that includes republicans. They've waged war on her for 25 years. Bernie looks better now solely because every right wing outlet and radio host has not set their sights on him. It's not going to be to be that hard to train them on the guy.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)does nothing but attack her, quibble about non-existing conspiracies, and allows BS off the hook when he goes after her. I would expect her negatives to be sky high. But as people see how Sanders is engaging in negative attacks, it actually hurts him.
His negatives went up in NY and that's probably one reason why he lost so badly.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)Voters perceptions of her having the knowledge and experience to be president remain strongly positive and unchanged since last fall. On other measures, such as whether she is easygoing and likable, or shares your position on issues, or is able to bring real change to the country, or is honest and straightforward, she has seen her standing erode since last fall and even more when compared with her first presidential campaign, in 2008.
Hillary Clinton won New York, but her image is underwater
http://wapo.st/1MH22Rl
I think that where it counts, she's rock solid and ahead.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)phazed0
(745 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I pretend people who don't vote as I do are sell-outs as well. Granted, it's an allegation lacking any substance (or even creativity), but it certainly allows us to feel more mature about our petulance and third-grade actions, regardless of where you place your boots.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)in order for me to sell out, wouldn't someone have to pay me something?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)Oh, and this Independent is now an HRC democrat. How's that for a stat?
But I love Bernie Sanders too. Always have. I just love Hillary just that much more.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)We democrats have two great candidates. Let the best one win. It appears the one I feel is better qualified will be that one. In the end we're all democrats and want what is best for the future of our country.
Over the years I've worked on many campaigns, which means I understand the feeling of being on the losing end. It didn't prevent me from supporting the democratic candidate. I hope others will feel the same after the primaries are over.
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)HomerRamone
(1,112 posts)Mr. Peace Sign...
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)it'll be interesting how her payoffs to the corporate campaign financiers are rationalized here on DU. Can't WAIT until her new owners are told to go "pack it" when they call in their chips. Yeah - that's gonna be a real tap dance routine.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)It started with WJC and will continue if she makes it into the White House, which I seriously hope she doesn't.
Even better will be this exchange
Donald Trump: I gave you a lot of money. Why dont you tell people what I got for my donations...
HRC: ........
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)A vote for HRC is a vote for oligarchy.
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)win here!
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)There is a gender gap in party membership, too, but not this big. And in 2008, Mitt Romney managed to get the majority of white men AND white women voters.
With Cruz or Trump as the nominee, I think Hillary will draw millions of voters from indies and even RINO's in the center.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but I just can't. I'm so thankful that Alaska has no influence in national elections and that however I finally choose to vote won't make a damn bit of difference.
seabeckind
(1,957 posts)Tainted water collected from a private drinking water well in PA near a fracking site.
http://ecowatch.com/2016/02/04/pa-fracking-water-contamination/
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)she's going to sweep the north east. putting an end to the 'she only wins the south' shit
snort
(2,334 posts)Similar to New York, where Clinton notched a dominant victory on Tuesday, the former secretary of state has an important advantage in Pennsylvania: It's a closed primary, which means only registered Democrats can participate. It's a rule that bars Sanders from bringing a crush of independents to the polls on his behalf, as he has in many of the states he's won.
dubyadiprecession
(5,714 posts)for BS.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I also think that she'll do quite well in MD and NJ. She's up in CT too. I haven't seen any recent polls in RI and DE.
BTW, I love your last image. BatHillary?
alfredo
(60,074 posts)It will become more difficult to keep morale high in the Sanders camp. I've been in the camp of a losing candidate, it really sucks.
Our local party shifted our efforts to down tickets. It was not too hard to convince the workers to shift gears. They saw the reality, and responded with maturity. We helped several down ticket candidates win their contests.
After the election the state party, and national organizations poached our team. It was wonderful. They liked how we took a totally dysfunction county party, rebuilt the database, secured 20,000 names and potential volunteers. We did all that for less than $5,000 dollars.
One of the team wrote down how we did it, and after the election ther counties and states adopted some of our techniques.
My role was to organize street level activities like Canvassing, leafleting, and trolling for volunteers. My experience as a mail carrier really helped. Little things like putting band aids on the knuckle you use for knocking, and rattling a gate before opening it helped keep them comfortable and safe.
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