Saudis Snub Obama On Riyadh Arrival Amid Growing Tensions
Source: CNN
(CNN)President Barack Obama received a chilly reception from Saudi Arabia's leaders as he landed in Riyadh Wednesday, a clear sign of the cooling relations between once-close allies amid regional upheaval and dropping oil prices.
When Obama touched down in Riyadh shortly after 1 p.m. local time, there were no kisses with the kingdom's ruler as President George W. Bush once exchanged. The Saudi government dispatched the governor of Riyadh rather than a senior-level royal to shake Obama's hand, a departure from the scene at the airport earlier in the day when King Salman was shown on state television greeting the leaders of other Gulf nations on the tarmac.
Social media users quickly termed the reception, which was not carried live on state TV, a snub and a sign that a relationship long lubricated by barrels of oil is now facing deep questions on both sides.
For all the frostiness seemingly on diplay, though, analysts and former officials say the two countries aren't at the end of a love affair so much as in an unhappy marriage in which both sides, for better or worse, are stuck with each other.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/20/politics/obama-saudi-arabia-tensions/
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)most despicable groups of individuals in existence. If they don't like Obama then I think Obama is doing something right.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)Glorfindel
(9,730 posts)jaysunb
(11,856 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)and who won their battles against their neighbours about a century ago, rather than getting a stalemate 60 years ago. Both are totalitarian hereditary regimes.
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)OIL
paleotn
(17,931 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)as laborers.
agnostic102
(198 posts)although is peak farsi i have a limited understanding of arabic as you learn bunch of stuff being forced to learn the koran. anyway in arab countries the word for an african is usually abed or abd which basically means slave.. its just one of those things.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)so if this "kingdom" had any knowledge and collusion in 9/11 than let the cards fall, where they may........................
Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
lark
(23,105 posts)Think the Bushes and Cheney are stopping him because then it will become clear that they were all in this together. Saudis snub Obama because he hasn't said categorically that he will keep this information hidden. F them, let it all hang out! I think Obama's either been well paid or well threatened into not doing exactly that.
keithbvadu2
(36,829 posts)for Bush's Saudi pals and bin Laden's relatives.
How did Bush know that his Saudi friends and bin Laden's relatives needed safe passage out of this country?
cprise
(8,445 posts)Now in 2016, Obama is running to his upset Saudi investors to convince them he can maintain the cover-up (so they will maintain the price war against the other oil producers like Russia and Venezuela).
lark
(23,105 posts)Nailed it! They knew about this and that's why Georgie didn't quit reading, he had to leave Cheney in charge and let the deed go down without interruption.
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)Its the whole 1% neocon crowd, represented by them.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)The President is being controlled by Dick Cheney???
lark
(23,105 posts)Bushes, Rummy, Cheney - the neocon 1% who profited from the war are either threatening or bribing, don't know which.
lark
(23,105 posts)except it's not just Cheney but all the MIC including bushes etc. Is he being bribed or threatened, I've wondered that ever since Obama basically pardonned them for their treason by refusing to look into it.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)No secrets are to be revealed?
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)So -- they didn't kiss him at the airport, but, will POTUS Obama do the Sword Dance with the Saudis?
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Gawd what a dork.
Compare him to Obama's cool. Wow.
Botany
(70,516 posts)$130,000 from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandars checking account to the (9-11) hijackers
How the US covered up Saudi role in 9/11
http://nypost.com/2016/04/17/how-us-covered-up-saudi-role-in-911/
In its report on the still-censored 28 pages implicating the Saudi government in 9/11, 60 Minutes
last weekend said the Saudi role in the attacks has been soft-pedaled to protect Americas delicate
alliance with the oil-rich kingdom.
snip
" ...$130,000 from then-Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandars family checking account to yet another
of the hijackers Saudi handlers ..."
snip
The Saudi ambassador funded two of the 9/11 hijackers through a third party, Guandolo said. He
should be treated as a terrorist suspect, as should other members of the Saudi elite class who the US
government knows are currently funding the global jihad.
snip
After he met on Sept. 13, 2001, with President Bush in the White House, where the two old family friends
shared cigars on the Truman Balcony, the FBI evacuated dozens of Saudi officials from multiple cities,
including at least one Osama bin Laden family member on the terror watch list. Instead of interrogating
the Saudis, FBI agents acted as security escorts for them, even though it was known at the time that 15
of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens.
cprise
(8,445 posts)The Saudi Prince who stayed at the Whitehouse so often they made him an honorary member of the Bush clan?
WDIM
(1,662 posts)Any country that cuts off peoples heads for their religious belief or sexual orientation should be cut off.
Definately should not be taking their money and approving arms deals for them. They are against everything we believe and stand for and are one of the most brutal regimes in the world.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Fuck them, their royal family, their Islamic extremism, their oil, and their backwards desert hellhole of a country.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/why-put-up-with-saudi-arabia
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)to Saudi purchases of their fighter planes and other instruments of death, the US might actually do what's right and cut these pampered, spoiled brats off from any American assistance or diplomatic cover.
Because of government acts solely upon the wishes and profit desires of the rich and their corporations, our leaders are still over there trying to be nice to these scumbags.
mopinko
(70,127 posts)follow the money.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Think about it.
We liberated a majority Shiite country from it's Sunni Minority leader, installing an Iran friendly Shiite gov't instead.
We decided to back off on removing Assad due to ISIS being worse, leaving in place a minority Shiite ruler of a majority Sunni country.
Then we cut a deal with Iran giving them more money and prestige.
Prior to the War on Terror we were pretty much aligned with Israel and the Saudis against their common enemy, the Shiites.
However now US troops are fighting Sunnis who are more concerned with killing Westerners or Shiites than Jews.
So our interests with Saudis and Israel are parting ways.
So another old alliance fucked by the decision to go to war in Iraq.
Bottom line though is the middle east itself is fucked as long as they cling to this sectarian BS.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)Obama will get over this.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)They brought down the twin towers... no punishment is too much for them.
Obama should just get back on his 747 and fly home.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Fat chance, eh..
SHRED
(28,136 posts)So then why do they fear release of the 28 pages?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Our imports were much, much greater ten years ago. So, the Saudis are playing the role of the entitled children who are mad at mommy and daddy for imposing discipline.
The Saudis can snub Obama all they want, but we're holding the cards.
mopinko
(70,127 posts)it is why we can give these assholes the finger and not lose a thing.
Damned skippy!
NickB79
(19,253 posts)Winning?
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Can you please elaborate -- we're talking about petroleum from drilling/pumping versus natural gas from fracking.
NickB79
(19,253 posts)It was inevitable that once one was brought to market, the technology would be adapted to other energy sources.
And as the US has rapidly embraced both techniques for "energy independence", we've released massive amounts of carbon into the air and flooded the market with cheap oil, driving down the adoption of energy-efficient automobiles and EV's and driving a new surge in truck and SUV sales in the US.
Hell, the Bakken Field, even though primarily an oil producer, was flaring off $100 million dollars worth of natural gas a DAY at one point: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bakken-flaring-idUSBRE96S05320130729
And given how far past the tipping point we are with regard to climate change, we can't afford to release any excess carbon anymore.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... he's got guts. If I was snubbed, I would have climbed back on AFI and high-tailed it out of there.
I will not rest easy until PO is safely back on US soil.
christx30
(6,241 posts)Then I would put future military contracts up for immediate review.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)I swear to God I was afraid for him to sleep in that God forsaken country that night.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)Largest sale in history!
Democat
(11,617 posts)This is not the Primaries forum and this thread has nothing to do with Clinton.
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KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)cab67
(2,993 posts)maindawg
(1,151 posts)This whole thing is fishy.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The bill would allow US litigants to seek damages form Saudi Arabia in courts.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)That government is the most destabilizing force in the region, and their efforts are clearly directed towards expanding wahhabist practice in the west, with the net effect of harming Muslim communities here as well.
I do not use the word "evil" lightly. It's a big word, has lot packed into it. But the al-sauds are within its criteria for me.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)line the corporate media display their unhappiness.
Their response the one time he answered questions overseas was ridiculous - from both the right and left corporate media.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Good discussion of said declassified document over at 28pages.org, including a PDF of it.
Congressman Massie of KY has read the 28 pages. Here is what he said of them..."I had to stop reading about every 2 pages or so, to rearrange my understanding of history."
The Saudis are freaking out over those documents. To which I say good...and release them to public now!
desmiller
(747 posts)Lord forgive me......
Barack.....
Bomb the shit out of them, please.....
Leontius
(2,270 posts)but no outcry for that slight here. Why the whining over this but not that.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Google it if your mind is open to learning about it
leveymg
(36,418 posts)If you want to use the marriage metaphor, there you have it.