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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:40 PM Apr 2016

Canada to introduce legislation in 2017 to legalize sale of marijuana

Source: Washington Post

April 20 at 4:03 PM


OTTAWA — The Canadian government announced Wednesday that it will introduce legislation next year to decriminalize and legalize the sale of marijuana, making Canada the first G7 country to permit widespread use of the substance.

The announcement was made by Canada’s health minister, Jane Philpott, at a U.N. drug conference in New York. It follows through on a promise made during Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s successful election campaign last fall.

Philpott said details of the legislation are being worked out, but she vowed that the government “will keep marijuana out of the hands of children and profits out of the hands of criminals.”

With the Liberals holding a majority in the House of Commons, the marijuana legislation is likely to pass. The path toward the legalization of marijuana is the latest in a string of policy announcements from the 44-year-old Trudeau that have moved Canada to the left after a decade of Conservative Party rule, including last week’s unveiling of legislation to permit assisted suicide.



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Canada to introduce legislation in 2017 to legalize sale of marijuana (Original Post) inanna Apr 2016 OP
Good! I hope Mexico is next...end the damaging drug war once and for all. Moostache Apr 2016 #1
Can't come soon enough! Hillary will not help on this issue.. so not much hope for the US. nt phazed0 Apr 2016 #2
Maybe, maybe not Wibly Apr 2016 #3
Depends on where you live. The only way you can busted for a pot offense in Vanvouver is if Monk06 Apr 2016 #5
Nonsense Wibly Apr 2016 #9
Was he arrested and charged? The pot dispensary raids are another matter that is still in dispute Monk06 Apr 2016 #14
Mounties do not act alone Wibly Apr 2016 #17
Well the Vancouver Police said publicly that they weren't in favor of the raids, meaning I suppose Monk06 Apr 2016 #19
I share your cynicism regarding the Liberal Party Joe Shlabotnik Apr 2016 #6
I don't know Canadian politics well but didn't he just get elected. ToxMarz Apr 2016 #7
In the Fall Wibly Apr 2016 #10
Hillary made it clear that those suffering can suffer a little while longer while we study rhett o rick Apr 2016 #4
Anybody got a link re retiring in Canada? Vincardog Apr 2016 #8
Costly proposition Wibly Apr 2016 #11
Canada is a cold place it is however warming up with the rest of the world. Vincardog Apr 2016 #12
Air conditioning is cheap, though daleo Apr 2016 #16
Almost there..... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #13
420 yall BadGimp Apr 2016 #15
I love it! First Liberal in office in a decade and this happens! Unicorn Apr 2016 #18
Clearly, this is good news from a number of perspectives. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2016 #20

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. Good! I hope Mexico is next...end the damaging drug war once and for all.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:52 PM
Apr 2016

Invest the money currently spent/wasted/stolen on the drug war into social programs to education in poor areas, provide skills training for others who find academic learning less fulfilling, and in general attack not the use of drugs but the issues that lead to drug abuse and addiction.

We keep banging our heads into the same intractable problems and never seem to allow reality to set in...drugs are NOT the problem, they are the symptom. If you want to get well from a cold, you do not make having a fever illegal...

Wibly

(613 posts)
3. Maybe, maybe not
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:55 PM
Apr 2016

We here in Canada are quickly learning that what this government says may not be true. They have a way of being all nice and sunny in word, but marching to the same old drummer when it comes to action.
If they were serious about legalization they would be decriminalizing possession for personal use right now, but they are not. In fact, since Trudeau became PM tens of thousands of Canadians have been arrested and charged with minor cannabis infractions, from simple possession to cultivation for personal use.
This announcement, made at the UN is response to pressure from Moms and Dads of kids with drug issues, is meant to pacify the demand and placate those applying pressure for change. Nothing more.
It is not a serious commitment.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
5. Depends on where you live. The only way you can busted for a pot offense in Vanvouver is if
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

you pull a gun on a cop and tell him to hand over his herb

The law is the law until it is formally changed so there are going to be a lost of amnesties when it comes into effect

Trudeau can`t just tell police forces not to enforce a law So some backward right wing communites are still charging people Especially communities who have the RCMP as their police

Wibly

(613 posts)
9. Nonsense
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:26 PM
Apr 2016

I personally know several folks who have been arrested in the past year for pot possession in the Vancouver area, or at least had their cannabis confiscated. There has also been a series of raids all up and down the south coast and on the island, some of them on legitimately licensed dispensaries and medical grows.
As for the RCMP, they are directed by Ottawa. While some communities do have a say, Ottawa could change it by decriminalizing, and they simply are not doing that.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
14. Was he arrested and charged? The pot dispensary raids are another matter that is still in dispute
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:12 PM
Apr 2016

It's the RCMP who are behind these raids and they are on record with their disapproval of legalized pot

Once pot is legalized they will have to lay off The RCMP are pigs so I'm not surprised that they are the ones behind pot dispensary closures in Nanaimo too

My point in replying was that the OP seems to be just an opportunity to claim that Trudeau doesn't live up to his election promises and is some kind of stealth Tory

Wibly

(613 posts)
17. Mounties do not act alone
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:35 PM
Apr 2016

Not sure what you mean by claiming the RCMP are behind the raids. They don't act alone.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
19. Well the Vancouver Police said publicly that they weren't in favor of the raids, meaning I suppose
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 01:47 AM
Apr 2016

that they viewed this as a directive from the Canadian government

As for the RCMP they are a law unto themselves in the communities that have chosen or been assigned them as their police force. They are a military force. That is how they were formed and that is how they are structured today They are a state police organization

They are the only cops on native reserves and are universally hated there for good reason

They were even more political back in the days before they lost responsibility for national intelligence because of unauthorized domestic spying. Recall also how brutal they were during th Pope's visit and the G7 summit Locally they are still the municipal police entity for Richmond and several other municipalities in the GVRD and the valley IIRC

I personally don't like them or trust them and they are on record as apposing legalization

As for Trudeau I am not one to jump on the Prime Minister Shorty Pants wagon until the marijuana legalization legislation is debated and passed

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
6. I share your cynicism regarding the Liberal Party
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

They are masters of propaganda, always short on details, and at the end of the day citizens end up getting the short end of the stick. Can't believe we fall for it all the time.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. Hillary made it clear that those suffering can suffer a little while longer while we study
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

medical marijuana. This has to be one of the most heartless positions. Deny people something that can alleviate their suffering and why? Because she is in the pocket of Big Pharma.

Wibly

(613 posts)
11. Costly proposition
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:30 PM
Apr 2016

Canada is not cheap. Retiring here is possible if you have an above average pension plan that allows you to move out of country. Otherwise you are better off looking south.
BTW: With exception of the lower mainland and islands of the south west area of British Columbia, Canada is a cold place for four to six months of the year, sometimes longer. Heating bills are huge, and so are public services of all sorts.

 

Unicorn

(424 posts)
18. I love it! First Liberal in office in a decade and this happens!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 12:41 AM
Apr 2016

And, this shows why states rights in America are so important. They spread.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
20. Clearly, this is good news from a number of perspectives.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:33 PM
Apr 2016

From just a dollars-and-cents POV, the numbers are surprisingly low, though. According to Cdn. govt. figures, the societal cost of illicit drugs $1.5 billion dollars annually. ($51B in the US on enforcement alone)

However, even that comparatively modest $1.5B shrinks in importance when compared to the societal costs associated with tobacco and alcohol - $17.1 billion.

And on a different tack, at least the user gets something out of smoking pot, whatever their motivation. All a tobacco user gets is broke, smelly and dead.

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