Extradition Treaties sets up when one country has to send someone to a country wanting that person. Most extradition treaties contain clauses that a country can REFUSE to extradite certain persons under certain situations. Apparently Snowden is asking Norway to recognize such an exception to extradition exist for him under Norwegian law. I suspect under the same law that applies to Nobel Peace Prize winners. Snowden is asking a court in Norway for recognition of such an exception for him. Notice it is up to the court to decide.

In situations when you are expelling someone, you expell him back to the country he came from. In the case of Snowden that would be Russia. Russia can kick him to the USA at any time if Russia no longer wants him. So far Russia has decided to keep Snowden.

....hitting the Stoly a bit hard these days?

What's he thinking?

He must be hating Moscow BIG TIME!

About as easy as how that caught him the first time. Oh, wait.

He knew, if they caught him with his forged educational credentials, that it was "Fired And Disgraced" time. And that's in conjunction with a very deep look into every single thing he'd ever done while in the employ of a government contractor. He wouldn't have been able to withstand the scrutiny. He was a little thief. And a problem child--and all that would have come out, and he knew it.

I also believe he was an operative for the Russians way back when he lived in Japan, was working at Yokosuka, and "took a vacation" to Hong Kong. I think he was on their payroll for awhile. Don't know how they turned him, but they turned him.

Further, I think he spent very little time in the Mira Hotel, but was a guest of the Russians for the entire time he was hiding out in HK. It's why no one could find him.

They got him, they turned him, and now he's stuck. Definitely a tick mark in the win box for Vladimir, but Eddie, always too clever by half, is the discarded pawn in the game. And there's not shit he can do about it, either. Every year, fewer people care. Enjoy the Russian spring and summer, Eddie, because winter is long and cold.

Snowden gave us proof. You, fantasy speculation.

...to extradite him to the US.

Makes perfect sense. For some, authoritarianism is just in their veins.

What runs through his veins?

Question: are they to be judged by the worst actions of our leader?

He also thinks Snowden should be in prison. Is he an authoritarian enemy of freedom?

Sorry Putin has been accused of killing several political opponents but the only connection between those deaths and Putin is that they were enemies of Putin. You need more than accusations to bring a charge. Now some of the methods of assassination appear out of the old KGB book on how to get rid of someone, but that is only evidence that Putin could have ordered it done, not that Putin actually ordered it done.

In most cases the victim had enemies other than Putin who wanted them dead thus Putin is one of many suspects in such murders, but you need more than suspicion to convict someone, you need hard evidence and that has NOT been produced.

Thus to call Putin a murdered is your opinion not a fact and make that clear when you accuse someone of murder.

Anyway, that no matter what happens to Snowden in the future, he pwned the fuck out of the U.S. Government, the NSA, and their inappropriate and unconstitutional behaviors.

by giving away state secrets. Party on.

Because it's "cool" to work for Vladimir--fight the power, maaaaaan! By going over to the OTHER power--the one that doesn't have actual elections, and beats gay people to death in the street!!




Freedom!!! Freedom to do what Pootie tells ya to do!

--cuz you can't be critical of Snowden and be in favor of freedom of speech--you're pretty good at it.

The speech Snowden freely gave was largely a recital of the articles Glenn Greenwald had written over the previous ten years.

I have repeatedly asked his defenders to cite a Snowden disclosure that had not been previously reported. So far, nobody has bothered to come up with that. You are welcome to be the first.

We can safely conclude that the reason for that is because whatever else Snowden knew was told only to the Chinese and the Russians, who allowed Snowden to publicly share only that which had been previously disclosed.

There is nothing free about that. That's milking a spy for operational intelligence while publicly using him as propaganda.

Doesn't put what he revealed about the NSA, etc. back in the bottle.

So many whine because blew the whistle, but it was against the wrong president. Hello? Freedom matters no matter who is president.

Maybe read the law first before you label the rest of us

....Norway does not typically release to the US based on the inhumane prison system here and if there is a chance that the prisoner would be put to death.

to take the death penalty off the table and surely Snowden knows that.

...the US prison system, which is deplorable and medieval when compared to the Norwegian system.

Just my opinion...I would be incredibly surprised if Norway agreed to extradite.

and besides the US could probably wiggle around that by making an agreement with Norway to let them see the prison they would house him at and approve of it before they extradite him as well as periodic reviews of his prison conditions by Norway.

...that the US has a federal or maximum security prison like Halden.

is why I pointed out that if Norway were to object for that reason that the U.S. might try to offer some concessions depending on how badly they want him.

...the part where Norwegians think that US prisons are inhumane. The US is not about to redo its whole system. It is the reason I think Norway would not comply.

Now on to another point....what type of concession do you think the US could offer regarding prison accommodations?

first and if Norway still has concerns that the U.S. might then turn around and transfer him to a different facility Norway could press for the right to veto said transfer and or to make an alternative choice.

The U.S Gestapo will kidnap him pronto.

invented. Set up a Jumbotron. Take questions. They can't arrest his IP address.
Because of US authorities show up, is Norway going to stop them from grabbing Snowden? And if the FBI gets their hands on him, is there a force on the planet thatcsay going to free him?

He's Kim Philby, 21st Century Style. Maybe Vlad will put him on a stamp one day.

He wants attention, but no one cares anymore.

Missing it in Russia?

I thought Russia was awesome. What gives?

The pole stuff is just a sideline.

They do a lot of that acrobatic stuff in Russia--she's probably just a dedicated amateur to them, whereas in USA she'd be considered pretty good and would have less competition in the hiring process.

I think she visits often on tourist visas, but she gets out of there (probably in the dead of winter, if she's smart!).

That's another thing--they control who is allowed to see him. He's not a free man in Russia.

you can't stand that he did what he did and got away with it.

If you call living in the world's most repressive shithole "getting away with it," sure!

Pay no attention to me...I replied to myself by mistake, lol!

among them Iran and China.

I know my way around, though. There's lots you can get away with if you know how to be careful.

If I had to live in China, I liked Hong Kong--crowded, but always something going on.

None of 'em are paradises admittedly.

another bastion of transparency and free speech and press.

However, even they didn't want him.

That's why there were no sightings of him in and around the Mira Hotel. He was hidden away in a high rise building, celebrating his birthday with pizza.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/report-snowden-stayed-at-russian-consulate-while-in-hong-kong/2013/08/26/8237cf9a-0e39-11e3-a2b3-5e107edf9897_story.html

and so they let him go which is to bad because if they had held onto him they would have had a nice bargaining chip to use to perhaps buy the U.S. government off to leave them to do what they want in the South China Sea.

yours is still allowed unless the rules for the DU have been changed.

One never knows....

You can make a foreign government say who they will or won't extradite? Does Snowflake respect any laws, or does he expect special treatment all the time now??

So why doesn't he just get asylum there, then? Oh, right -- No country wants him...