NYC ELECTIONS OFFICIAL SUSPENDED FOR VOTING ISSUES IN BROOKLYN
Source: ABC
BROOKLYN, New York (WABC) -- A New York City board of elections official has been suspended after voting issues arose in Brooklyn during Tuesday's primary election.
Read more: http://abc7ny.com/1303541/
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)
before November. Good Lord what a damn mess.
EDIT: And by "fixed" I mean squared away, leveled, not the other meaning.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)All of us know what happened with W. What will our nation come to if we get Ted Cruz? That dude is a nightmare covered in creepy ass sauce.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Ive been fighting Romney...personally...for 15 years
And Hillary frightens me more; because we Dems will continue to fight each other about what's really going on with her.
At least with the other VERY bad choices...there's clarity
NowSam
(1,252 posts)It does very little to remedy the current election to suspend this person now. Day late, dollar short. The only acceptable remedy is to allow those who didn't get to vote to have a make up day and include it in the official election results.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Than offer a sacrificial lamb for firing. Nothing REAL or Substantive, espeically if it might change the results to not favor his annoited one.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)But no real remedy.
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w4rma
(31,700 posts)choie
(4,111 posts)can conduct an unbiased investigation? If he was a Sanders delegate you would be going off the rafters...
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Creepy.
certainot
(9,090 posts)keep doing it, and they love it when bernie voters blame hillary, which is why they would do it in the primary.
the trolls will be strong with the voter suppression
former9thward
(32,023 posts)Learn something every day on DU....
certainot
(9,090 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)former9thward
(32,023 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)former9thward
(32,023 posts)Chicago, where I am from, is supposed to have equal numbers of Rs and Ds in election bodies. In reality the city D machine has loyal Ds pretend to be Rs and thus one party controls all the ward election judges. I really doubt NYC is more pure when it comes to this stuff...
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)benefited from a purge of 100K votes anywhere in the NYC area, where she had extremely strong support.
The place to hurt Bernie would have been in upstate, rural NY, not in a NYC borough.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)former9thward
(32,023 posts)Who hired her?
yardwork
(61,650 posts)melm00se
(4,993 posts)are "controlled" by the 2nd place party in the general election (not sure if that's the 4year presidential, 2 year congressional or something else).
certainot
(9,090 posts)problematic when one party is the republican party
melm00se
(4,993 posts)if the "losing" party is in control of the board of elections that prevents the "winning" party from stacking the deck
certainot
(9,090 posts)the problem with republicans is they now live in an alternate talk radio generated reality in which democrats steal elections (hanging chads!!!,etc), commit voter fraud, and are letting people across the border to vote for dems! on republican talk radio that's been sold strongly since they needed to defend themselves from their election thievery in fla and ohio etc. - strong for 15 years, and they pushed electronic voting machines and a lot of voter suppression in many states with that crap.
melm00se
(4,993 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)sold his soul for nothing.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Anyone tweeting?
yardwork
(61,650 posts)OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)Might want to find out what the truth really is not just spread conspiracies. Do you care whether it's true of not?
2banon
(7,321 posts)I simply responded with a question, not stating a fact.
And since I haven't "shared" this anywhere, I'm not engaged in promulgating anything regarding this story.
Perhaps you replied to the wrong post?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Corruption and debacles left, right and center.
We're starting to look like the countries we "spread Democracy" in.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)The nation is trashed by the 1 percent corporate thieves who control it. They're milking us and the environment.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)As it is, she won Brooklyn -- and all the NYC boroughs -- by a huge majority. But if you want her to get more votes, that's fine with me.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)course of the primary but what matters more is that the people who were denied their right to vote get their chance. So even if it got her more vores than so be it. ( I don't actually believe it would).
dchill
(38,503 posts)People should be allowed to vote. I think we still call it a "right," don't we?
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Doesn't matter if it's a Clinton, Sanders, Trump, Cruz, Kasich, which supporters had their ability to vote taken away. You don't seem to care much about such things, but that's not something that should be taken lightly.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I too pretend that when we dismiss A as relevant, we are necessarily unconcerned with B.
Granted, it's a logical fallacy indicative of a lazy and undisciplined mind, but it allows us to reinforce our biases... so I figure it's a win/win.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Too obvious to sweep under the rug, I guess.
Eric Schneiderman will get to the bottom of the mess, hopefully before the Nov election.
Donkees
(31,417 posts)A New York City board of elections official has been suspended after voting issues arose in Brooklyn during Tuesday's primary election.
The Board of Elections office released a statement Thursday evening, saying the Commissioners' Executive Committee of the Board of Elections voted to suspend Borough Office Chief Clerk Diane Haslett-Rudiano without pay. The suspension takes effect immediately and will continue pending an internal investigation.
"The Board will fully cooperate with the investigations currently being conducted by the Office of the New York State Attorney General and The Office of the New York City Comptroller," the BOE said in a news release.
New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman announced Wednesday that his office was going to investigate the BOE. He issued a statement Thursday following the suspension.
"The administration of the voter rolls in Brooklyn is of major concern to our office and is a focus of our investigation," Schneiderman said.
New York City's Comptroller Scott Stringer kicked off the first investigation Tuesday night. Stringer said the biggest issue appeared to be that some eligible voters were removed from voter-registration rolls and some that had their party affiliation changed.
Other issues included polling sites not opening in time for voting, incorrect primary notifications being mailed out and training of the poll workers.
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Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)greiner3
(5,214 posts)Just sayin
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)A re-vote is being scheduled in New York (and Arizona).
Qué será.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)How will they investigate if they're suspended? Someone is trying to bury the truth.
allan01
(1,950 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)fuck 'em
bjo59
(1,166 posts)mainstream news and people who only read headlines realize that Hillary's "big win" happened in a state where an election official just got suspended without pay and there's an ongoing investigation. Perception is a hugely important thing in voting behavior. And there are more votes across the country to be cast.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Unless they have a 'do-over' it doesn't change anything and therefore dosen't mean shit.
accept it will make some even less likely to vote for her again
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)or some other remedy to make up for the F-up. In other words, put pressure on their ass to give those affect an opportunity to vote. I truly think if enough people raise hell that something good could happen. Even have protests in front of their office every day.
reddread
(6,896 posts)they disenfranchised states 8 years ago didnt they?
Thats pretty brutal collective punishment.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)It's incredible how Clintonites rationalize this away as bad as Republicans do when their campaigns commit crimes. Do these people never learn until the pitchforks come out? History just repeats itself over and over again as human nature never learns. Talk about self-entitlement. We all want a woman president but at what expense? Would these same people vote for Condaleeza Rice? So here is an article of a corporation hired by Hillary to TROLL the internet with fake commenting...the company is bragging about how many threads they engage and neutralized. I wonder if they will attack this comment right now? The advice in the article is to ignore them.
http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)If Bernie isn't in the General.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)She's a Rethug. And by her actions she lost many votes for Hillary, who carried every NYC borough by huge margins. Hillary would have had even bigger numbers in Brooklyn if all her supporters had voted.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Is that false?
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)And both are the only ones under investigation for MASS voting irregularities. Just call me Captain Coincidence.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)based on polling and demographics.
We might as well argue that Bernie's people were behind any irregularities in those precincts, because Bernie benefited by any suppression of the vote in the most hispanic county in Arizona or in any of the boroughs of New York. His support came from other whiter parts of Arizona and rural upstate NY.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Depends on what demographic purged. You assume evenly dispersed. I do not.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)could have benefited Hillary, who was much stronger among Bernie among hispanics everywhere. If they wanted to hurt Bernie, the logical tactic would have been to suppress votes in areas where he would have many voters, not just a few.
The same thing in NY. The logical tactic would have been to create lines and interfere with the vote in the parts of upstate NY where he would have lots of voters.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Hispanics and unions were floating Bernies way. We all want the same ends I assume. No war. No explotation. No ruined lives. It just sucks that I realize Hillary is a Bush surrogate and you don't. It boils down to that. I know the Bushes. You are making a major mistake regardless of where your hearts at.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Is futile
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)scintilla of truth that the purge in Brooklyn would have done anything other than make Hillary's lead LARGER? Or how about explaining how - 6 months ago - this REPUBLICAN (who you think was working for Hillary apparently) knew which buildings and blocks that were purged were going to vote for Bernie. You all sound desperate and it's not becoming at all.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Of ipso factos....doesnt change the facts
Of course Hillary didnt touch software buttons...but she possibly benefited and possibly Bernie was harmed (scintilla)
She always benefits ...because its never her staff complaining about halted voting (scintilla)
Her campaign wanted Bernie's med report;
And everyone clearly sees she has issues
It happened....greatly...in Brooklyn (huge scintilla)
Rest of state (50 out of 62 counties) went for Bernie
And now Conn is announcing..in advance...plans to close 60% of poll places
That can only harm Bernie
S C I N T I L L AAASASSZ
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and you still haven't explained how a borough like Brooklyn that voted HEAVILY for Hillary (she won 60-40 in a blowout) would have benefited Bernie if those votes were cast? You still haven't explained how - 6 months ago - this REPUBLICAN knew exactly which entire buildings and blocks in Brooklyn would vote for Bernie. Do you even listen to yourselves? And it's Rhode Island that cut out 66% of their polling places, not Connecticut. You can't even get the big stuff correct.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)are you having problems with? Is it reading comprehension that's difficult for you or just having trouble because you're candidate is a loser?
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Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #26)
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I hope you're satisfied with yourself!
iandhr
(6,852 posts)elias7
(4,007 posts)Please, some real content, just once....
LuvLoogie
(7,011 posts)She finally sold that building I think.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)She's a Republican, yup. And there you guys are, arm in arm with her and her right to fuck over voters, because - hey! - you got what you wanted out of it.
Birds of a feather, it seems.
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2banon
(7,321 posts)that people whined about and falsely claimed "conspiracy". ?
I don't get people disregarding historical fact as if none of this could ever possibly happen ever again.
This shite happens every effin election cycle every where across this nation.
That's right. election engineering fraud in the good ole U.S.A. has been happening on a big wide scale, since the very birth of this nation.
Be informed, and Know our History.
This ain't nothing new, and yes of course it's a gd conspiracy.
What the hell else is it? Just a "coincidence"?
iandhr
(6,852 posts)... this occurred in a location in NY state that went for Bernie.
This was in Brooklyn that went for Hillary by a large margin.
Maybe the people who didn't get to vote would have increased the margin of victory.
Tammany hasn't had play in NYC politics since La Guardia.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I am ridiculing the idea that this is some Clinton conspiracy. It seema likely to me that more people voting in Brooklyn would have just added to he vote totals.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)That is what I have been saying for a long time now.
They need someone who will not energize the base...and that would be Hillary.
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zeemike
(18,998 posts)Just like Brer Rabit was afraid of being thrown in the briar patch.
McKim
(2,412 posts)It would be in a Republican's interests to support Clinton for sure. If she is elected they will get everything they want: More wars in the Middle East, more interventions in the MIddle East to complete the PNAC plan, more help for corporations, more help for insurance companies and big pharma and a few crumbs for the rest of us.
3hummingbirds
(58 posts)That is all well and good but it doesn't change the fact that many people were cheated out of voting.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)She took New York, next!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)This is DU. The only thing you are allowed to say on DU is that HRC and the DNC are rigging the vote in every state and the Bernie is actually winning the race despite the fact he has 2.5 million less votes.
You are not allowed to post any facts here.
Donkees
(31,417 posts)Brooklyn Election Official Suspended for Reportedly Botching Voter Roll, Purging 125,000 Names
The New York Daily News is citing multiple unnamed sources reporting that the reason Haslett-Rudiano has been suspended, and will ultimately be fired, is that she botched the maintenance of the voter roll.
The problems began when she was trying to clean up the voting books, which must be periodically purged to eliminate people who die, move or are ineligible for other reasons. Sources said she skipped one of the steps that was built in to stop the system from purging eligible voters, which caused a chain reaction that led to people being improperly removed. Brooklyn lost 102,717 or 8% of its active voters from Nov. 1 2015 through April 1, 2016, according to state stats. Its the only county in the state that lost voters in that time period.
"The administration of the voter rolls in Brooklyn is of major concern to our office and is a focus of our investigation," New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman said Thursday.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/04/21/elections_board_suspends_brooklyn_official_for_purging_125_000_from_voter.html
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)This site would not be the same without you.
Such a pithy comment, and right on target.
Sam
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Made me smile.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Response to laserhaas (Original post)
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)While giving the republican criminal a free pass.
Typical Hillbagger.
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I mean you're here. And all you're doing is shit-talking Democrats posting here, with nary a word of criticism of the Republican who seems to have fucked over voters.
In fact, given the evidence, I would happily and assertively say that "sneering at other Democrats while giving the Republican criminal a pass" is not only exactly what you are doing, but is in fact the only thing you are doing in this thread.
Now if you want to play the Whatabout game, we can do that. I wouldn't advise it though. It'll be long, tiresome, unproductive, and I have more ammunition than you do. So how about you make a show of shaking your fist at the republican here, and htne toddle off to the Hillary Clinton Group to brag about how you "owned" me or whatever you guy do there.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)implying Hillary was behind voting problems anywhere.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)That the party switches and de-affiliations aren't a problem. That massive disenfranchisement in the entire state, affecting all the voters there, is not a problem
Allow me to explain something that seems to have eluded you. Just because Bernie supporters are talking about something, does not mandate that you immediately, unthinkingly, take the opposite viewpoint. It's possible to agree with them on the existence and pervasiveness of a problem, that it IS a problem, and that it very certainly impacted the outcome of this election (whether for or against your candidate, either way it's important) while still rolling your eyes at the idea that it's a "Clinton conspiracy."
it's what I've been doing, and gosh, you're so very certainly smarter than I am, aren't you? Go on and give it a shot.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)They've poisoned the well.
And though we have to have a fair and accurate voting system, I have seen no evidence that any of the problems helped Hillary more than Bernie. In two of the worst places, Arizona and New York, the worst problems happened in areas where she would have had heavy support, just based on the demographics.
glowing
(12,233 posts)When a state is completely controlled by Democrats, in large part, and most of the officials in the state from the Gov down to Election officials have endorsed Clinton, then people are going to accuse the other candidate of the issues. AND had this been just 1 state where voting irregularities have occurred, then most would say, fix your state's elections because they stink to high heaven.
My personal thoughts, the vote totals needed to be double digit for Clinton. Exit polls showed a much narrower lead for Clinton. When exit polls and vote totals do not add up, are significantly irregular, then there is a problem on the actual tabulation code. This used to be well covered and well known by people in the Democratic party; especially since Kerry had the votes flipped on him in OH and Al Frankin made them do an actual re-count and won his Senate election in 2008. AND our politicians know that elections can be electronically altered within coding or hacking of the machines or at the central tabulator. If they want a number to appear, they can make it appear.
The people who have the most to lose in money, power, and ability to stay out of jail, are those in the establishment. So, yeah, lefty types, those who whistleblow, those who organize at the grass roots level, those of us normally raising flags are often called loons or conspiracy theories... AND then low and behold, information comes to light, and yeah, those "conspiracies" were facts.
Like I said, I do believe Clinton won. I DON'T for 1 second believe she won with that great of a margin difference. Which would have looked bad and split the delegates pretty evenly between the two. AND the minute she won, what did every establishment news, surrogate, politician, pundit do? Encourage him to give up. Tell Sander's voters to put down their Birdie posters and start GOTV and sending those tiny donations her way.
BTW, why in the world is any candidate for national election at the Presidential level presumptuous to run when they are under FBI investigation? You don't think Republicans aren't going to hammer this point every single day if it hasn't been wrapped up OR God forbid, she is indicted? This worries me quite a bit more than it obviously does other people.
On Edit:AND I'm not trying to start more crap or fight with someone who may be a bought poster; since that is a campaign tactic now. I'm upset with our elections in general and that they are soooo easily manipulated. The fact that we can't really trust what is happening during the primary or the G.E., is a real problem for Americans. Add to that all the politicians, especially on the right, that don't want new voters or certain types of voters, and create voting blocks to participate. The reality, it should be easy and honest. If you are a citizen, you should automatically be enrolled as a voter. When you move, your I.D. updates the system. How hard would it be to assign a voter I.D. number for every citizen at the age of 18? We have social security numbers that follow us through life. The IRS sure as hell can keep track of us and where we live and where we work. AND as much as I despise electronic voting the way it is done now, I also recognize that paper ballots tend to become padded or lost or broken into (Wisconsin anyone?). Maybe there is a way to do it online and also be able to track your Voter I.D. number and that it tabulated in the proper voting columns... One way to double check I suppose. Then again, voting has always been allowed a "secret" process so that no one will hold your vote against you in a negative manner (which could happen - remember after 2000 when you had to be a secret supporter in the Southern states, or face possible physical assault, loss of job, and general nastiness). No matter what, this election and democracy shit has got to get better. We rank horrifically on a global scale on accurate voting counts. Maybe the UN needs to come in and monitor the elections for honesty.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)The lawyers who filed the last minute lawsuit trying to open up the primary urged Independent Bernie followers publicly (it was on Reddit and elsewhere) to ask for a provisional ballot and vote for Bernie anyway.
Exit polls showed that between 17 and 20% of people who agreed to talk to the pollsters, when asked for their party affiliation, said they were Independent.
So those people were counted in the exit polls -- but when their ballots were received at the elections office, they weren't immediately counted. They were set aside to be checked against the registration rolls. And since, as Independents, they weren't registered Democrats, their ballots wouldn't be counted then either.
So ballots that were merely provisional were counted in the exit poll but not in the actual results. That's what appeared to have happened.
Concerning the vote purge in NY, an elections official has been suspended due to an action she took. And she is a Rethug. Even in a Democratic state, some Republicans do exist.
In Arizona, the problems that occurred were centered in a county in which the Republican elections official decided on her own to cut back on polling places. This was in a heavily Hispanic area where Hillary had been projected to have a lot of support. This Rethugs' actions did not benefit Hillary.
Why would Hillary run even in the face of an FBI investigation? Because she knows she is innocent.
And because ever since she announced, as a new First Lady, she wanted to do more than make cookies, she's been under one investigation after another, including even being charged with a friend's murder! She has learned to just soldier on, no matter what shit they throw at her.
So, no, I am not a shill. Just someone closer to Hillary's age than you are who has watched the ESTABLISHMENT rise up for 30 years to throw everything it has at her. No woman will truly be part of the ESTABLISHMENT until they are a solid part of the political structure of the US. And since not a single woman has ever been President, and only 20% of the Senate are women, that day hasn't happened yet. Don't delude yourself into thinking it has.
I totally agree with you on making voting easier. In my state everyone is automatically registered when they get their licenses and everyone gets sent mail-in ballots for every election (and there are accommodations for homeless people to name any address they wish or to vote in person). EXCEPT we're still stuck with non-inclusive, non-representative caucuses because the party fought to keep them after the states voters tried to turn them into primaries.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)The voting problems depressed her counts in areas with high numbers of Hispanic and black voters. Why would she want that?
The only logical way to hurt Bernie's numbers would be to suppress votes in the heavily white precincts where he was expected to have the most support. And I've seen no evidence of that.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)There clearly enough evidence to call in to question some of the results.
elljay
(1,178 posts)She bought a brownstone for $5000 at a city distressed property sale, let it deteriorate further for decades and accumulated thousands of dollars of fines and citations. She then flipped the house to a developer for 6.6 million.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-city-eyesore-sells-for-millions-1409934333
She also was caught living in Queens while lying by saying she lived in Brooklyn so she could keep her position as a Republican district leader.
http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/elections-official-refuses-sell-run-down-brownstone-article-1.1367238
All in all, someone I'd trust to run Brooklyn elections. Do I really need to insert the "sarcasm" smiley?
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)This could be a fig leaf, covering over other anomalies and using this Republican as a shiny object.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)mrdmk
(2,943 posts)1) Closing of polling stations in the name of saving money: check, just one person did that
2) Different polling hours from one polling station to another: check, just one person did that
3) Bad information or no information going to voters has to where and when to vote: check, just one person did that
4) You have one New York Republican (this Republican has had problems of sorts in the past [hint, hint]) who controls the Republican voting rolls steamrolls one New York Democrat who controls the Democratic voting rolls (this Democrat has had problems of sorts in the past too): check, what is this shit? Talk about bait! Right, I maybe a dumb ass, but I am not stupid.
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laserhaas
(7,805 posts)If Trump had won over Hill...in the national...with this
Then...........
mrdmk
(2,943 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)But hard to get in an illegitimate world
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)"election improprieties in Iowa, Nevada,
Massachusetts, Arizona and other states.
Everyone agreed, if turnout was high, Sanders could win.
Clinton was leading the early vote in Arizona (68%-31%).
Sanders won the election day vote in Arizona (55%-45%).
Sanders won the Maricopa County election day vote by an even larger margin (68%-31%).
Tens of thousands of Arizonans (the vast majority being Democrats), were not allowed
to vote on election day because their party affiliation was mysteriously changed prior to
the election without their consent.
Wait times were up to 5 hours at polling places in Arizona discouraging even more voters
from participating.
The media called the election for Clinton while thousands still hadnt voted.
The same thing will happen in New York this week.
(on FB, went back to find the link but couldn't find the article again)
Aerows
(39,961 posts)of how if you think you live in a Democracy, you haven't been paying attention.
Corruption left, right and in the damn middle.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Yer DU profile has top billing
Aerows
(39,961 posts)And quit spending so much time here.
You mean go somewhere and penn where it has greater chance for value?
I think value is a relative (fleeting) concept
For a decade plus we've been fighting Romney ans Sachs. Dozens are in jail, law firms have closed and more than a 100 fed agents have quit, or where pushed out or joined the dark side.
.
No one cares...unless main stream tells them to
And they never had the inclination
jalan48
(13,870 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)If this is the democracy America presumes to spread with economic and military force, god help the planet.
New evidence that gives insights into this issue has been gathered by the Electoral Integrity Project. This independent research project is funded by the Australian Research Councils Laureate award with a team of researchers based at the University of Sydney and Harvard University.
The 2015 annual Year in Election report compares the risks of flawed and failed elections, and looks at how well countries around the world meet international standards. The report gathers assessments from over 2,000 experts to evaluate the perceived integrity of all 180 national parliamentary and presidential contests held between July 1, 2012 to December 31, 2015 in 139 countries worldwide. These include 54 national elections held last year.
Forty experts were asked to assess each election by answering 49 questions The overall 100-point Perceptions of Electoral Integrity (PEI) index is constructed by summing up the responses.
https://www.popularresistance.org/us-elections-ranked-worst-among-western-democracies/
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)I guess Trump would be the Onceler. Hillary I dont know...she's more like a star-bellied sneech.
Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)Sunday, June 9, 2013
Diane Haslett-Rudiano, the Board of Elections chief clerk in Brooklyn, has been asked by community leaders to sell her empty townhouse on W. 76th St., on which she owes more than $12,000 in back taxes and has 20 Buildings Department violations. Haslett-Rudiano says shes holding onto the structure for emotional reasons.
Haslett-Rudiano has worked for the board since 1999 and makes $113,000 a year, records show.
In 2005, the city Department of Investigations unearthed evidence that she lived in Queens while being registered to vote and serving as a Republican district leader in Brooklyn.
The Board of Elections took no action, however, after her lawyer presented unspecified documents that were never made public.
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BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Unanswered..
Cui bono!
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)And California is where they will try...even harder
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Given the margins she won every single borough in NYC, the purge OBVIOUSLY would have hurt Hillary far more than Bernie. The sore loser schtik is pathetic but this REPUBLICAN who purged should be charged. She was obviously targeting Democrats.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)And your arguments have no validity / corroboration
Bull
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I have FAR more reason to think Hillary was the one who was hurt by the purge - she took Brooklyn 60-40. And you desperate souls have yet to explain how this REPUBLICAN woman knew - 6 months ago - just which entire buildings and blocks would have voted for Bernie. I think you sound like lunatics.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)We *NEED* to get this crap fixed before November.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Democracy is for lip service only.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Or she wont be....(should Cruz, or Donald , or Mitt)
.
Either way.....a nightmare is upon U.S.
The likes of which none have ever seen before
All due to emotions controlling many brains
Aerows
(39,961 posts)to call it a coronation was sexist.
I mean, seriously?
Our country has lost its damn mind if people can utter such things with a straight face.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Clinton is part of the problem
And G-d probably won't help U.S. if they get what they wish for
Martak Sarno
(77 posts)For those questioning the possibilty of a person setting up a voting scheme to affect Democrats because they are a Republican (so it couldn't have been either Hillary or Bernie, uh huh!), I have to ask:
How many Republicans did Obama keep from the Bush Administration and how many Republicans and Conservative Business leaders or for that fact, center-right Democrats, has he added or appointed to positions of very influential power during the past 7 years rather than Leftist or even Centrist Democrats and was there even ONE complaint from the Republicans (or Democrats for that matter) over his Republican choices?
Just how many Republicans are still working for Obama in any capacity?
Anyone?
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Though, arguably, the vote is still out on his replacement
dpatbrown
(368 posts)To think that this country encourages voting all over the world, yet can't even coordinate free and true elections from coast to coast here. We are the mockery of the world.
And of course we know the GOP realizes that the only way they can win elections is to illegally deny voting to so many. Plus the Dems are not much better, fighting to keep established politicians (Clinton) in power.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)And pretense.
We are a mockery society
Because babbling banter obfuscative
Works
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I have ever seen.
Voter suppression, running out of BALLOTS (as though you didn't know how many people were in your district, get the list you goofball), closing voting places. What a shit storm.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)There would be lynchings
.
From DWS outright boast of rigging to running out the door and poll closings
$achs gets what it wants.
N'est-ce pas!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)but this pile of dirt is going to get some french words.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Clever enough to add the "le"
Which dodges the 1918 book so le popular
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)all I said was "a little bit" in reference to your question did I speak french.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)And lots of it.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Presidents
Time for change
(13,714 posts)in order to take suspicion away from Democratic complicity in this massive election fraud.
My understanding is that, as a Republican, he had nothing to do with the Democratic primaries.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1810209
It makes sense to me. It's very hard for me to believe that the Republicans would go through all that trouble to screw up a Democratic primary. Who benefited the most from this fraud and others perpetrated in the Democratic primaries?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)to remind us of how few fucks they give about anybody but themselves and their direct family members.
Aristocracy is on the way, and the feces is going to hit the oscillating air moving machine.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Being a voter is about to get real to be a dirty job
trudyco
(1,258 posts)She sells it to the daughter of Lowey, who is a Superdelegate for Hillary Clinton?
Or at least Nita Lowey is some sort of local campaign head for Hillary? This is in 2014 and it's sold for 6.6 million, a rundown eye sore bought for $5000 in the seventies and left to rot. Sold in a neighborhood where nicely maintained places sold for 4.7 million. But Diane manages to sell it to Donna(?) Lowey for 6.6 million. This doesn't feel like a bribe to anybody???? Paid in advance?
Now Diane is taking the fall, and she happens to be a republican who already has a reputation for fraud. She fraudulently represented herself as living in Brooklyn so she could keep her leadership position when in fact she lived in Queens in 2005. Right?
And the head of the BOE who would be in charge of investigating the purging and other acts of election fraud is also a Clinton elected delegate or Superdelegate? So they would have no incentive to really investigate if it harmed the Clinton Campaign.
I'm just connecting all the dots and trying to get my head around this. It's weird to me that Bernie Sanders handily won Colorado where we have a closed caucus.The thinking has been that it was the young vote but there were only 3 youngsters in my precinct of about 130 people. Very under-represented actually. We went for Bernie 2 to 1. The only thing consistent with the national story is that the people who voted for Hillary were white middle aged women almost exclusively. A few men.
So what I'm trying to say is that supposedly Caucuses favor Bernie because they are open and that lets independents vote. That wasn't true in Colorado. And caucuses favor the nimble and flexible hour (really?) young but in fact I found it was difficult for college students because they couldn't get back to their home precinct. Hence, we had 3. I know this is only anecdotal.
I'm thinking that maybe the closed primaries where people are voting have been corrupted. New York is just very blatant. Clinton had a little too much help with her fans there. I thought that about George Bush, just didn't think it would be so within the Democratic Party.
Is there a way to elevate the investigation to the Federal level? Somebody not already pledged to one candidate or another? I wish we still had real investigative journalists. I'd like to know how many people had their affiliation changed to independent in the last year. And was the signature an obvious forgery. Things like that.
We need everybody over 18 automatically registered to vote, they can't be purged, they keep their voting right even if they go to jail, and the votes need to have paper receipts which are hand counted to tally up with any automated vote counting. No more superdelegates or closed primaries either. If the other party can mess up your primary by voting in the wrong candidate then you probably need to work on your message to your people. Primaries and GE should be a holiday. Emergency people get half shifts.
There must be a way to let peoples votes be counted with transparency and a reasonable amount of privacy. Both for primaries and the GE.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)What are prosecutors going to do?
trudyco
(1,258 posts)And I don't think it is outright bribery, that would be too obvious, but it really smells if it's true. It's more like unethical than illegal maybe? I don't know. It's like a degree of separation for quid pro quo. It would be interesting to know where the daughter got the 6.6 million. Just an amazing coincidence that the Repub happen to make a significant financial gain from a Dem (well her daughter) who is closely connected to Clinton and then this Repub just happen to do some "oops" incompetent moves. Major ones. Then there are the people who got switched to unaffiliated so they couldn't vote. How many were there? How many had forged signatures? Or was that all a Hoax. I don't know much about the NYC inner workings but the discrepency in the exit poll and then the conflicting explanations... it feels like George Bush all over again....
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Im sick of it ALL
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Just nobody sayin....
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
said this morning for all of New York to hear, that there's something wrong, that candidate partisans run the Board of Elections and use tax payer money to do it.
You can bet that Bernie has no surrogates or partisans on the NY Board of Elections.
So in essence, if you deconstruct how this worksthe HRC machine runs the voting mechanism in NYC.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)You pick the mist important places to do so
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..what they could in some of the smaller Western primary states too.
I'm not thinking she stole the election and Bernie would have won NY. It's that she may have stolen the margin. Which is still important.
Analysts said that if Bernie had come within 7 to 10 points in NY it would have been a huge upset and very meaningful, even though she ultimately won. Because NY is really her turf. So she had to trounce. I think her final win was 16 points. She may have "massaged" 6 of those points through purges, lost ballots, late poll openingswhatever.
I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of it, frankly.
There's no way the corporate system is going to let us have our candidate without a huge fight.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Is able to do anything about it
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)A good team player is valuable