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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:12 PM Apr 2016

NYC ELECTIONS OFFICIAL SUSPENDED FOR VOTING ISSUES IN BROOKLYN

Source: ABC

BROOKLYN, New York (WABC) -- A New York City board of elections official has been suspended after voting issues arose in Brooklyn during Tuesday's primary election.

Read more: http://abc7ny.com/1303541/

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NYC ELECTIONS OFFICIAL SUSPENDED FOR VOTING ISSUES IN BROOKLYN (Original Post) laserhaas Apr 2016 OP
I hope there are charges of some kind to come. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #1
Or, maybe this official is the Glaspie of the NY primary mess. merrily Apr 2016 #89
Hey, someone else who remembers that! SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #105
I agree. This REPUBLICAN needs to be charged for purging 100,000 Democrats. yardwork Apr 2016 #101
We need to get all of this fixed Aerows Apr 2016 #170
Totally agree. This is ominous. yardwork Apr 2016 #179
It literally *scares* me. Aerows Apr 2016 #180
Hill, Trump, Cruz or Mitt...are all nightmares laserhaas Apr 2016 #187
Now how about a make up day for those who couldn't vote because of this person? NowSam Apr 2016 #2
Agree but Hillary SuperDelegate Stringer is head of Board of Elections. He is not likely to do more peacebird Apr 2016 #4
Exactly. Just a little show. NowSam Apr 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Apr 2016 #13
Do you think that she was operating as a lone wolf? (nt) w4rma Apr 2016 #52
so you think a Clinton delegate choie Apr 2016 #64
Exactly. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #106
Good point. zentrum Apr 2016 #16
bullshit. republicans are going to do this all over the country and will certainot Apr 2016 #42
Republicans control NYC elections? former9thward Apr 2016 #72
i thought it was the mafia..... certainot Apr 2016 #74
The suspended official is a Republican. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #77
Who hired her? former9thward Apr 2016 #152
They aren't allowed to only hire Democratic party members. The positions are non-partisan. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #157
I wasn't born yesterday. former9thward Apr 2016 #160
You were born yesterday if you think that Hillary pnwmom Apr 2016 #161
chicago has it's own problems questionseverything Apr 2016 #165
Bam. Aerows Apr 2016 #171
The woman who did this is a REPUBLICAN. yardwork Apr 2016 #102
Republicans don't control anything in Brooklyn. former9thward Apr 2016 #151
There are plenty of links here. yardwork Apr 2016 #158
IIRC the Boards of Election in NYS melm00se Apr 2016 #159
interesting rule - controlled by one party is very certainot Apr 2016 #178
actually it makes sense melm00se Apr 2016 #193
unless the losing party stacks the deck so they can win! certainot Apr 2016 #194
nothing stops the new losing party from doing the same thing n/t melm00se Apr 2016 #199
Another reason to beat Hillary in the end. So that Stringer jwirr Apr 2016 #47
You Have GOT TO BE EFFING Kidding ME! 2banon Apr 2016 #54
And he quickly investigated and found the culprit. Good work. yardwork Apr 2016 #103
I believe someone else just said that he is in fact an elected delegate not a super delegate. OregonBlue Apr 2016 #119
I'm not the one posting this. 2banon Apr 2016 #166
This is the most fucked up Primary I have ever seen. Aerows Apr 2016 #172
Banana Republic to be sure. n/t libdem4life Apr 2016 #177
Just ride the east coast rail lines to confirm it wordpix Apr 2016 #191
Sorry. OregonBlue Apr 2016 #186
yep 840high Apr 2016 #62
+1 Unicorn Apr 2016 #70
So Hillary can further pad her lead. That would be great. pnwmom Apr 2016 #76
Well I'm not sure it wouldn't reverse the NowSam Apr 2016 #79
However it totes, I'm for it. dchill Apr 2016 #82
Doesn't matter. People were robbed of their right to vote. Bradical79 Apr 2016 #137
I too pretend that when we dismiss A, we are necessarily unconcerned with B. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #144
Agreed. Helen Borg Apr 2016 #97
That must have been the voting area that had 0 Democratic votes cast. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #3
Wow-- I hadn't heard of that one Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #9
K&R ReRe Apr 2016 #5
Thanks laserhaas Apr 2016 #48
Text: Donkees Apr 2016 #6
Diane will get quietly promoted to DLC lobbyist or some position like that. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #35
Not likely, since she's a Republican. yardwork Apr 2016 #104
The repubs want Hillary - they know they can beat her. But they hate Berine. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #150
So is Hillary greiner3 Apr 2016 #162
Just wait. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #183
It's only a coincidence that the same scheme was used in Arizona. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #98
Somewhere, in some parallel universe. forest444 Apr 2016 #8
This seems counterproductive scscholar Apr 2016 #10
almost always bust the little guy or gal, but not the ring leaders. allan01 Apr 2016 #11
Oh, YOu mean now that it's too late and doesn't mean shit?! Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #12
Well it means shit insofar as this story gets in the bjo59 Apr 2016 #17
I"ll give you that but Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #19
I say we petition someone independent to conduct re-vote Left Coast2020 Apr 2016 #14
Just throw New York out reddread Apr 2016 #20
Clintonite Criminal Purges HALF Of All Brooklyn Voters billhicks76 Apr 2016 #15
I have three words: Karma is coming. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #25
Jill Stein has my vote Marty McGraw Apr 2016 #67
Damn right. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #68
The suspended official isn't a Clintonite, she's a Clinton enemy. pnwmom Apr 2016 #78
I Heard They Purged The Younger Age Group billhicks76 Apr 2016 #83
I haven't heard that. Where's your evidence, other than paranoia? n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #85
Hillary Has Won 2 Out Of The Last 10 Primaries And Caucuses billhicks76 Apr 2016 #86
Both resulted in the loss of votes in precincts that she was favored to win, pnwmom Apr 2016 #91
Faulty Logic billhicks76 Apr 2016 #92
Please explain how the voting suppression in the most Hispanic county in Arizona pnwmom Apr 2016 #95
Thats Wrong billhicks76 Apr 2016 #109
Yeah, right, just floating his way. In the clouds in your dreams. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #110
Arguing with the haughty laserhaas Apr 2016 #122
How about coming up with one leftynyc Apr 2016 #124
Assumptions of facts not in evidence ....presumptions laserhaas Apr 2016 #128
What a bunch of crap leftynyc Apr 2016 #145
So haughty to use such a haughty word greiner3 Apr 2016 #163
You heard wrong. It is false. yardwork Apr 2016 #184
The person who did this is a REPUBLICAN. yardwork Apr 2016 #108
What part of SHE'S A REPUBLICAN leftynyc Apr 2016 #123
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Apr 2016 #18
pffft. facts. Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Apr 2016 #28
Another perfectly good conspiracy theory blown all to hell! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #30
I am a kill joy. iandhr Apr 2016 #32
Please just stop it with your inane cheerleading elias7 Apr 2016 #63
Fox will of course refer to her as a Democrat. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #29
And yet there have been no shortage of clinton supporters cheerleading this stuff for days now Scootaloo Apr 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Apr 2016 #45
How did you regard Tammany Hall? just merely a phony tin foil hat coinky dinky 2banon Apr 2016 #168
You would have had a better case for your anti-Bernie conspiracy if... iandhr Apr 2016 #169
Who's cheering that people, didn't get to vote? Adrahil Apr 2016 #60
So Republicans prefer Hillary to run against. zeemike Apr 2016 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Apr 2016 #65
I'm sure they have. zeemike Apr 2016 #107
Republicans Are Supporting Clinton Too McKim Apr 2016 #57
NYC election official 3hummingbirds Apr 2016 #21
That doesn't matter to the HRC voters... Earth_First Apr 2016 #22
So where there's smoke there appears to be fire...nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #23
Good! Hillary would have won by more with those votes! nt onehandle Apr 2016 #24
Looks like she's a GOPer Amimnoch Apr 2016 #27
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh iandhr Apr 2016 #36
Haslett-Rudiano 'botched the maintenance of the voter roll' Donkees Apr 2016 #31
check her bank account for big deposits of cash. nt grasswire Apr 2016 #33
Yup laserhaas Apr 2016 #41
You are a one-of-a-kind, grasswire Samantha Apr 2016 #58
LOL THANKS! grasswire Apr 2016 #59
Good guess. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Apr 2016 #34
Funny how all you contribute is sneering at other Democrats. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Apr 2016 #46
Sure looks that way Scootaloo Apr 2016 #53
You're projecting again, Snootaloo. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #80
Oh hey, there you are. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #81
I'm not cheerleading for Hillary losing votes. I'm against the nasty posters pnwmom Apr 2016 #84
Well, no, you've been posting regularly how the NY voter purges aren't a problem Scootaloo Apr 2016 #87
Too many Bernie supporters have been arguing that Hillary was behind the problems. pnwmom Apr 2016 #90
She is the establishment. The establishment has been stealing the vote since 2000. glowing Apr 2016 #111
Here is the most likely reason, IMO, the NY exit polls didn't match up. pnwmom Apr 2016 #156
No, but instead of rejecting this crap she's more likely to laugh about it. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #93
I do laugh at the idea that Hillary had anything to do with the problems. pnwmom Apr 2016 #96
They feel she condones cheating. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #148
Wow, somebody admitted there was a problem? NV Whino Apr 2016 #37
The NY (and Arazonia) delegations need to be challenged at the convention awake Apr 2016 #38
Some charming stories about Ms Haslett-Rudiano elljay Apr 2016 #39
:sarcasm: laserhaas Apr 2016 #44
Keep an eye on the whole scene. grasswire Apr 2016 #49
Huge +1! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #100
Agreed, not just one person did this. There are too many variables in the works here mrdmk Apr 2016 #118
Because Hill ...puroortedly..."won".....it's all okay laserhaas Apr 2016 #127
Yep, winning by any means... That's what its about! n/t mrdmk Apr 2016 #164
#ArizonaAndNewYorkPrimariesReVote ...ANYTHING less is unacceptable. AzDar Apr 2016 #50
Dreaming for legitimacy is nice laserhaas Apr 2016 #114
And whoa it did happen in NY like in AZ bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #55
This primary is an illustration Aerows Apr 2016 #132
Well said laserhaas Apr 2016 #139
Btw...in google of your moniker...to define aerows laserhaas Apr 2016 #141
I know, I need to write more. Aerows Apr 2016 #143
Ha ha laserhaas Apr 2016 #153
I'm sure fixing the problem will be at the top of the agenda-next year. jalan48 Apr 2016 #56
Electoral integrity index IDemo Apr 2016 #61
That takes care of him, but not the vote.....oh no, we must have a resolution. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #66
But do we get justice? Do we get a correction? Unicorn Apr 2016 #69
Is It Me Or Does Bernie Remind You Of The Lorax? billhicks76 Apr 2016 #71
EXCLUSIVE: Board of Elections official won’t sell vacant, run-down upper West Side brownstone Jopin Klobe Apr 2016 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Apr 2016 #88
Kick and R BeanMusical Apr 2016 #75
Thanks...outside of biased rancorous babble ..a key ? remains laserhaas Apr 2016 #94
It's too late now - the damage has been done and Hillary's happy with that (nt) nyabingi Apr 2016 #112
Riggings work laserhaas Apr 2016 #115
Just stop the conspiracy theory nonsense leftynyc Apr 2016 #125
You have no right to command ..l.. laserhaas Apr 2016 #129
LOL leftynyc Apr 2016 #147
I say this in all seriousness Aerows Apr 2016 #175
Who cares, though. They got the results they wanted and that's all that matters in America. valerief Apr 2016 #113
Very sad state of affairs laserhaas Apr 2016 #116
So come November...she will be crowned laserhaas Apr 2016 #117
Somebody in GD:P had the nerve Aerows Apr 2016 #133
The babbling condescend works...only if you let it laserhaas Apr 2016 #136
Because she's a Republican? Martak Sarno Apr 2016 #120
One less ( hopefully) when Holder exit transpired laserhaas Apr 2016 #121
Disgusting dpatbrown Apr 2016 #126
All Empire's discourage truth/ freedom under guise laserhaas Apr 2016 #130
This has to be the most corrupt Primary Aerows Apr 2016 #131
Concur...if the outcomes of such resulted in Bernie wins laserhaas Apr 2016 #134
Je ne parle pas le français Aerows Apr 2016 #135
You do not speak it (ever said par le) but you write it laserhaas Apr 2016 #138
Eh, un petit peu :) n/t Aerows Apr 2016 #140
😎 laserhaas Apr 2016 #142
No need to wave the finger Aerows Apr 2016 #146
The finger means "hmmmmmm" laserhaas Apr 2016 #154
She needs jail time. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #149
Never gonna happen...the precedent would scare laserhaas Apr 2016 #155
My understanding is that this official sacrificed because he's a Republican Time for change Apr 2016 #167
I think this is a signal to all of the "little" people Aerows Apr 2016 #181
It all already stinks to high heaven laserhaas Apr 2016 #188
So Diane H-R sells a decrepit brownstone for >1.9 million profit trudyco Apr 2016 #173
If the Cl8nton link is true laserhaas Apr 2016 #174
I was hoping somebody could tell me if I have it right. trudyco Apr 2016 #185
It is outright...and we're all too numb to scream laserhaas Apr 2016 #189
Well we got to the bottom of that, case closed! northernsouthern Apr 2016 #176
Closed in Az...NV....Chicago and... laserhaas Apr 2016 #197
De Blasio actually zentrum Apr 2016 #182
OF COURSE......if you are going to be crowned laserhaas Apr 2016 #190
I think they did zentrum Apr 2016 #192
They are doing it brazen and flagrant..and not even Bernie laserhaas Apr 2016 #198
No worries. A job in the Clinton administration awaits Doctor_J Apr 2016 #195
Yup laserhaas Apr 2016 #196
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
170. We need to get all of this fixed
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)

before November. Good Lord what a damn mess.

EDIT: And by "fixed" I mean squared away, leveled, not the other meaning.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
180. It literally *scares* me.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:09 PM
Apr 2016

All of us know what happened with W. What will our nation come to if we get Ted Cruz? That dude is a nightmare covered in creepy ass sauce.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
187. Hill, Trump, Cruz or Mitt...are all nightmares
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016

Ive been fighting Romney...personally...for 15 years

And Hillary frightens me more; because we Dems will continue to fight each other about what's really going on with her.

At least with the other VERY bad choices...there's clarity

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
2. Now how about a make up day for those who couldn't vote because of this person?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:18 PM
Apr 2016

It does very little to remedy the current election to suspend this person now. Day late, dollar short. The only acceptable remedy is to allow those who didn't get to vote to have a make up day and include it in the official election results.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
4. Agree but Hillary SuperDelegate Stringer is head of Board of Elections. He is not likely to do more
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

Than offer a sacrificial lamb for firing. Nothing REAL or Substantive, espeically if it might change the results to not favor his annoited one.

Response to peacebird (Reply #4)

choie

(4,111 posts)
64. so you think a Clinton delegate
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:57 PM
Apr 2016

can conduct an unbiased investigation? If he was a Sanders delegate you would be going off the rafters...

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
42. bullshit. republicans are going to do this all over the country and will
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:48 PM
Apr 2016

keep doing it, and they love it when bernie voters blame hillary, which is why they would do it in the primary.

the trolls will be strong with the voter suppression

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
160. I wasn't born yesterday.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

Chicago, where I am from, is supposed to have equal numbers of Rs and Ds in election bodies. In reality the city D machine has loyal Ds pretend to be Rs and thus one party controls all the ward election judges. I really doubt NYC is more pure when it comes to this stuff...

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
161. You were born yesterday if you think that Hillary
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:21 PM
Apr 2016

benefited from a purge of 100K votes anywhere in the NYC area, where she had extremely strong support.

The place to hurt Bernie would have been in upstate, rural NY, not in a NYC borough.

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
159. IIRC the Boards of Election in NYS
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

are "controlled" by the 2nd place party in the general election (not sure if that's the 4year presidential, 2 year congressional or something else).

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
178. interesting rule - controlled by one party is very
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:35 PM
Apr 2016

problematic when one party is the republican party

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
193. actually it makes sense
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

if the "losing" party is in control of the board of elections that prevents the "winning" party from stacking the deck

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
194. unless the losing party stacks the deck so they can win!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

the problem with republicans is they now live in an alternate talk radio generated reality in which democrats steal elections (hanging chads!!!,etc), commit voter fraud, and are letting people across the border to vote for dems! on republican talk radio that's been sold strongly since they needed to defend themselves from their election thievery in fla and ohio etc. - strong for 15 years, and they pushed electronic voting machines and a lot of voter suppression in many states with that crap.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
54. You Have GOT TO BE EFFING Kidding ME!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

Anyone tweeting?

Hillary SuperDelegate Stringer is head of Board of Elections.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
119. I believe someone else just said that he is in fact an elected delegate not a super delegate.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

Might want to find out what the truth really is not just spread conspiracies. Do you care whether it's true of not?

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
166. I'm not the one posting this.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:36 PM
Apr 2016

I simply responded with a question, not stating a fact.

And since I haven't "shared" this anywhere, I'm not engaged in promulgating anything regarding this story.

Perhaps you replied to the wrong post?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
172. This is the most fucked up Primary I have ever seen.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

Corruption and debacles left, right and center.

We're starting to look like the countries we "spread Democracy" in.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
191. Just ride the east coast rail lines to confirm it
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:26 PM
Apr 2016

The nation is trashed by the 1 percent corporate thieves who control it. They're milking us and the environment.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
76. So Hillary can further pad her lead. That would be great.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:55 AM
Apr 2016

As it is, she won Brooklyn -- and all the NYC boroughs -- by a huge majority. But if you want her to get more votes, that's fine with me.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
79. Well I'm not sure it wouldn't reverse the
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:59 AM
Apr 2016

course of the primary but what matters more is that the people who were denied their right to vote get their chance. So even if it got her more vores than so be it. ( I don't actually believe it would).

dchill

(38,503 posts)
82. However it totes, I'm for it.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:33 AM
Apr 2016

People should be allowed to vote. I think we still call it a "right," don't we?

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
137. Doesn't matter. People were robbed of their right to vote.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

Doesn't matter if it's a Clinton, Sanders, Trump, Cruz, Kasich, which supporters had their ability to vote taken away. You don't seem to care much about such things, but that's not something that should be taken lightly.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
144. I too pretend that when we dismiss A, we are necessarily unconcerned with B.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:40 PM
Apr 2016

I too pretend that when we dismiss A as relevant, we are necessarily unconcerned with B.

Granted, it's a logical fallacy indicative of a lazy and undisciplined mind, but it allows us to reinforce our biases... so I figure it's a win/win.


Donkees

(31,417 posts)
6. Text:
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:24 PM
Apr 2016

A New York City board of elections official has been suspended after voting issues arose in Brooklyn during Tuesday's primary election.

The Board of Elections office released a statement Thursday evening, saying the Commissioners' Executive Committee of the Board of Elections voted to suspend Borough Office Chief Clerk Diane Haslett-Rudiano without pay. The suspension takes effect immediately and will continue pending an internal investigation.

"The Board will fully cooperate with the investigations currently being conducted by the Office of the New York State Attorney General and The Office of the New York City Comptroller," the BOE said in a news release.

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman announced Wednesday that his office was going to investigate the BOE. He issued a statement Thursday following the suspension.

"The administration of the voter rolls in Brooklyn is of major concern to our office and is a focus of our investigation," Schneiderman said.

New York City's Comptroller Scott Stringer kicked off the first investigation Tuesday night. Stringer said the biggest issue appeared to be that some eligible voters were removed from voter-registration rolls and some that had their party affiliation changed.

Other issues included polling sites not opening in time for voting, incorrect primary notifications being mailed out and training of the poll workers.
Related Topics:
politics new york votes voting brooklyn news New York City

(Copyright ©2016 WABC-TV. All Rights Reserved.)

forest444

(5,902 posts)
8. Somewhere, in some parallel universe.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:25 PM
Apr 2016

A re-vote is being scheduled in New York (and Arizona).

Qué será.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
10. This seems counterproductive
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

How will they investigate if they're suspended? Someone is trying to bury the truth.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
17. Well it means shit insofar as this story gets in the
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:49 PM
Apr 2016

mainstream news and people who only read headlines realize that Hillary's "big win" happened in a state where an election official just got suspended without pay and there's an ongoing investigation. Perception is a hugely important thing in voting behavior. And there are more votes across the country to be cast.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
19. I"ll give you that but
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

Unless they have a 'do-over' it doesn't change anything and therefore dosen't mean shit.

accept it will make some even less likely to vote for her again

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
14. I say we petition someone independent to conduct re-vote
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:38 PM
Apr 2016

or some other remedy to make up for the F-up. In other words, put pressure on their ass to give those affect an opportunity to vote. I truly think if enough people raise hell that something good could happen. Even have protests in front of their office every day.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
20. Just throw New York out
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:53 PM
Apr 2016

they disenfranchised states 8 years ago didnt they?
Thats pretty brutal collective punishment.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
15. Clintonite Criminal Purges HALF Of All Brooklyn Voters
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:38 PM
Apr 2016

It's incredible how Clintonites rationalize this away as bad as Republicans do when their campaigns commit crimes. Do these people never learn until the pitchforks come out? History just repeats itself over and over again as human nature never learns. Talk about self-entitlement. We all want a woman president but at what expense? Would these same people vote for Condaleeza Rice? So here is an article of a corporation hired by Hillary to TROLL the internet with fake commenting...the company is bragging about how many threads they engage and neutralized. I wonder if they will attack this comment right now? The advice in the article is to ignore them.
http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
78. The suspended official isn't a Clintonite, she's a Clinton enemy.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:59 AM
Apr 2016

She's a Rethug. And by her actions she lost many votes for Hillary, who carried every NYC borough by huge margins. Hillary would have had even bigger numbers in Brooklyn if all her supporters had voted.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
86. Hillary Has Won 2 Out Of The Last 10 Primaries And Caucuses
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:49 AM
Apr 2016

And both are the only ones under investigation for MASS voting irregularities. Just call me Captain Coincidence.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
91. Both resulted in the loss of votes in precincts that she was favored to win,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:40 AM
Apr 2016

based on polling and demographics.

We might as well argue that Bernie's people were behind any irregularities in those precincts, because Bernie benefited by any suppression of the vote in the most hispanic county in Arizona or in any of the boroughs of New York. His support came from other whiter parts of Arizona and rural upstate NY.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
95. Please explain how the voting suppression in the most Hispanic county in Arizona
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:16 AM
Apr 2016

could have benefited Hillary, who was much stronger among Bernie among hispanics everywhere. If they wanted to hurt Bernie, the logical tactic would have been to suppress votes in areas where he would have many voters, not just a few.

The same thing in NY. The logical tactic would have been to create lines and interfere with the vote in the parts of upstate NY where he would have lots of voters.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
109. Thats Wrong
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:25 AM
Apr 2016

Hispanics and unions were floating Bernies way. We all want the same ends I assume. No war. No explotation. No ruined lives. It just sucks that I realize Hillary is a Bush surrogate and you don't. It boils down to that. I know the Bushes. You are making a major mistake regardless of where your hearts at.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
124. How about coming up with one
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

scintilla of truth that the purge in Brooklyn would have done anything other than make Hillary's lead LARGER? Or how about explaining how - 6 months ago - this REPUBLICAN (who you think was working for Hillary apparently) knew which buildings and blocks that were purged were going to vote for Bernie. You all sound desperate and it's not becoming at all.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
128. Assumptions of facts not in evidence ....presumptions
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

Of ipso factos....doesnt change the facts

Of course Hillary didnt touch software buttons...but she possibly benefited and possibly Bernie was harmed (scintilla)

She always benefits ...because its never her staff complaining about halted voting (scintilla)

Her campaign wanted Bernie's med report;
And everyone clearly sees she has issues

It happened....greatly...in Brooklyn (huge scintilla)

Rest of state (50 out of 62 counties) went for Bernie

And now Conn is announcing..in advance...plans to close 60% of poll places

That can only harm Bernie

S C I N T I L L AAASASSZ

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
145. What a bunch of crap
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

and you still haven't explained how a borough like Brooklyn that voted HEAVILY for Hillary (she won 60-40 in a blowout) would have benefited Bernie if those votes were cast? You still haven't explained how - 6 months ago - this REPUBLICAN knew exactly which entire buildings and blocks in Brooklyn would vote for Bernie. Do you even listen to yourselves? And it's Rhode Island that cut out 66% of their polling places, not Connecticut. You can't even get the big stuff correct.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
123. What part of SHE'S A REPUBLICAN
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

are you having problems with? Is it reading comprehension that's difficult for you or just having trouble because you're candidate is a loser?

Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #26)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
30. Another perfectly good conspiracy theory blown all to hell!
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:22 PM
Apr 2016

I hope you're satisfied with yourself!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
40. And yet there have been no shortage of clinton supporters cheerleading this stuff for days now
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

She's a Republican, yup. And there you guys are, arm in arm with her and her right to fuck over voters, because - hey! - you got what you wanted out of it.



Birds of a feather, it seems.

Response to Scootaloo (Reply #40)

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
168. How did you regard Tammany Hall? just merely a phony tin foil hat coinky dinky
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:00 PM
Apr 2016

that people whined about and falsely claimed "conspiracy". ?


I don't get people disregarding historical fact as if none of this could ever possibly happen ever again.

This shite happens every effin election cycle every where across this nation.

That's right. election engineering fraud in the good ole U.S.A. has been happening on a big wide scale, since the very birth of this nation.

Be informed, and Know our History.
This ain't nothing new, and yes of course it's a gd conspiracy.

What the hell else is it? Just a "coincidence"?


iandhr

(6,852 posts)
169. You would have had a better case for your anti-Bernie conspiracy if...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

... this occurred in a location in NY state that went for Bernie.


This was in Brooklyn that went for Hillary by a large margin.


Maybe the people who didn't get to vote would have increased the margin of victory.

Tammany hasn't had play in NYC politics since La Guardia.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
60. Who's cheering that people, didn't get to vote?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:49 PM
Apr 2016

I am ridiculing the idea that this is some Clinton conspiracy. It seema likely to me that more people voting in Brooklyn would have just added to he vote totals.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
51. So Republicans prefer Hillary to run against.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:13 PM
Apr 2016

That is what I have been saying for a long time now.
They need someone who will not energize the base...and that would be Hillary.

Response to zeemike (Reply #51)

McKim

(2,412 posts)
57. Republicans Are Supporting Clinton Too
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:40 PM
Apr 2016

It would be in a Republican's interests to support Clinton for sure. If she is elected they will get everything they want: More wars in the Middle East, more interventions in the MIddle East to complete the PNAC plan, more help for corporations, more help for insurance companies and big pharma and a few crumbs for the rest of us.

3hummingbirds

(58 posts)
21. NYC election official
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:57 PM
Apr 2016

That is all well and good but it doesn't change the fact that many people were cheated out of voting.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
36. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:29 PM
Apr 2016

This is DU. The only thing you are allowed to say on DU is that HRC and the DNC are rigging the vote in every state and the Bernie is actually winning the race despite the fact he has 2.5 million less votes.


You are not allowed to post any facts here.

Donkees

(31,417 posts)
31. Haslett-Rudiano 'botched the maintenance of the voter roll'
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:22 PM
Apr 2016

Brooklyn Election Official Suspended for Reportedly Botching Voter Roll, Purging 125,000 Names


The New York Daily News is citing multiple unnamed sources reporting that the reason Haslett-Rudiano has been suspended, and will ultimately be fired, is that she botched the maintenance of the voter roll.

The problems began when she was trying to clean up the voting books, which must be periodically purged to eliminate people who die, move or are ineligible for other reasons. Sources said she skipped one of the steps that was built in to stop the system from purging eligible voters, which caused a chain reaction that led to people being improperly removed. Brooklyn lost 102,717 — or 8% — of its active voters from Nov. 1 2015 through April 1, 2016, according to state stats. It’s the only county in the state that lost voters in that time period.
"The administration of the voter rolls in Brooklyn is of major concern to our office and is a focus of our investigation," New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman said Thursday.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/04/21/elections_board_suspends_brooklyn_official_for_purging_125_000_from_voter.html

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
58. You are a one-of-a-kind, grasswire
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:41 PM
Apr 2016

This site would not be the same without you.

Such a pithy comment, and right on target.

Sam

Response to laserhaas (Original post)

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
43. Funny how all you contribute is sneering at other Democrats.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:49 PM
Apr 2016

While giving the republican criminal a free pass.

Typical Hillbagger.

Response to Scootaloo (Reply #43)

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
53. Sure looks that way
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:16 PM
Apr 2016

I mean you're here. And all you're doing is shit-talking Democrats posting here, with nary a word of criticism of the Republican who seems to have fucked over voters.

In fact, given the evidence, I would happily and assertively say that "sneering at other Democrats while giving the Republican criminal a pass" is not only exactly what you are doing, but is in fact the only thing you are doing in this thread.

Now if you want to play the Whatabout game, we can do that. I wouldn't advise it though. It'll be long, tiresome, unproductive, and I have more ammunition than you do. So how about you make a show of shaking your fist at the republican here, and htne toddle off to the Hillary Clinton Group to brag about how you "owned" me or whatever you guy do there.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
84. I'm not cheerleading for Hillary losing votes. I'm against the nasty posters
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:38 AM
Apr 2016

implying Hillary was behind voting problems anywhere.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
87. Well, no, you've been posting regularly how the NY voter purges aren't a problem
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:01 AM
Apr 2016

That the party switches and de-affiliations aren't a problem. That massive disenfranchisement in the entire state, affecting all the voters there, is not a problem

Allow me to explain something that seems to have eluded you. Just because Bernie supporters are talking about something, does not mandate that you immediately, unthinkingly, take the opposite viewpoint. It's possible to agree with them on the existence and pervasiveness of a problem, that it IS a problem, and that it very certainly impacted the outcome of this election (whether for or against your candidate, either way it's important) while still rolling your eyes at the idea that it's a "Clinton conspiracy."

it's what I've been doing, and gosh, you're so very certainly smarter than I am, aren't you? Go on and give it a shot.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
90. Too many Bernie supporters have been arguing that Hillary was behind the problems.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:38 AM
Apr 2016

They've poisoned the well.

And though we have to have a fair and accurate voting system, I have seen no evidence that any of the problems helped Hillary more than Bernie. In two of the worst places, Arizona and New York, the worst problems happened in areas where she would have had heavy support, just based on the demographics.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
111. She is the establishment. The establishment has been stealing the vote since 2000.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:46 AM
Apr 2016

When a state is completely controlled by Democrats, in large part, and most of the officials in the state from the Gov down to Election officials have endorsed Clinton, then people are going to accuse the other candidate of the issues. AND had this been just 1 state where voting irregularities have occurred, then most would say, fix your state's elections because they stink to high heaven.

My personal thoughts, the vote totals needed to be double digit for Clinton. Exit polls showed a much narrower lead for Clinton. When exit polls and vote totals do not add up, are significantly irregular, then there is a problem on the actual tabulation code. This used to be well covered and well known by people in the Democratic party; especially since Kerry had the votes flipped on him in OH and Al Frankin made them do an actual re-count and won his Senate election in 2008. AND our politicians know that elections can be electronically altered within coding or hacking of the machines or at the central tabulator. If they want a number to appear, they can make it appear.

The people who have the most to lose in money, power, and ability to stay out of jail, are those in the establishment. So, yeah, lefty types, those who whistleblow, those who organize at the grass roots level, those of us normally raising flags are often called loons or conspiracy theories... AND then low and behold, information comes to light, and yeah, those "conspiracies" were facts.

Like I said, I do believe Clinton won. I DON'T for 1 second believe she won with that great of a margin difference. Which would have looked bad and split the delegates pretty evenly between the two. AND the minute she won, what did every establishment news, surrogate, politician, pundit do? Encourage him to give up. Tell Sander's voters to put down their Birdie posters and start GOTV and sending those tiny donations her way.

BTW, why in the world is any candidate for national election at the Presidential level presumptuous to run when they are under FBI investigation? You don't think Republicans aren't going to hammer this point every single day if it hasn't been wrapped up OR God forbid, she is indicted? This worries me quite a bit more than it obviously does other people.

On Edit:AND I'm not trying to start more crap or fight with someone who may be a bought poster; since that is a campaign tactic now. I'm upset with our elections in general and that they are soooo easily manipulated. The fact that we can't really trust what is happening during the primary or the G.E., is a real problem for Americans. Add to that all the politicians, especially on the right, that don't want new voters or certain types of voters, and create voting blocks to participate. The reality, it should be easy and honest. If you are a citizen, you should automatically be enrolled as a voter. When you move, your I.D. updates the system. How hard would it be to assign a voter I.D. number for every citizen at the age of 18? We have social security numbers that follow us through life. The IRS sure as hell can keep track of us and where we live and where we work. AND as much as I despise electronic voting the way it is done now, I also recognize that paper ballots tend to become padded or lost or broken into (Wisconsin anyone?). Maybe there is a way to do it online and also be able to track your Voter I.D. number and that it tabulated in the proper voting columns... One way to double check I suppose. Then again, voting has always been allowed a "secret" process so that no one will hold your vote against you in a negative manner (which could happen - remember after 2000 when you had to be a secret supporter in the Southern states, or face possible physical assault, loss of job, and general nastiness). No matter what, this election and democracy shit has got to get better. We rank horrifically on a global scale on accurate voting counts. Maybe the UN needs to come in and monitor the elections for honesty.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
156. Here is the most likely reason, IMO, the NY exit polls didn't match up.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016

The lawyers who filed the last minute lawsuit trying to open up the primary urged Independent Bernie followers publicly (it was on Reddit and elsewhere) to ask for a provisional ballot and vote for Bernie anyway.

Exit polls showed that between 17 and 20% of people who agreed to talk to the pollsters, when asked for their party affiliation, said they were Independent.

So those people were counted in the exit polls -- but when their ballots were received at the elections office, they weren't immediately counted. They were set aside to be checked against the registration rolls. And since, as Independents, they weren't registered Democrats, their ballots wouldn't be counted then either.

So ballots that were merely provisional were counted in the exit poll but not in the actual results. That's what appeared to have happened.

Concerning the vote purge in NY, an elections official has been suspended due to an action she took. And she is a Rethug. Even in a Democratic state, some Republicans do exist.

In Arizona, the problems that occurred were centered in a county in which the Republican elections official decided on her own to cut back on polling places. This was in a heavily Hispanic area where Hillary had been projected to have a lot of support. This Rethugs' actions did not benefit Hillary.

Why would Hillary run even in the face of an FBI investigation? Because she knows she is innocent.

And because ever since she announced, as a new First Lady, she wanted to do more than make cookies, she's been under one investigation after another, including even being charged with a friend's murder! She has learned to just soldier on, no matter what shit they throw at her.

So, no, I am not a shill. Just someone closer to Hillary's age than you are who has watched the ESTABLISHMENT rise up for 30 years to throw everything it has at her. No woman will truly be part of the ESTABLISHMENT until they are a solid part of the political structure of the US. And since not a single woman has ever been President, and only 20% of the Senate are women, that day hasn't happened yet. Don't delude yourself into thinking it has.

I totally agree with you on making voting easier. In my state everyone is automatically registered when they get their licenses and everyone gets sent mail-in ballots for every election (and there are accommodations for homeless people to name any address they wish or to vote in person). EXCEPT we're still stuck with non-inclusive, non-representative caucuses because the party fought to keep them after the states voters tried to turn them into primaries.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
96. I do laugh at the idea that Hillary had anything to do with the problems.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:19 AM
Apr 2016

The voting problems depressed her counts in areas with high numbers of Hispanic and black voters. Why would she want that?

The only logical way to hurt Bernie's numbers would be to suppress votes in the heavily white precincts where he was expected to have the most support. And I've seen no evidence of that.

awake

(3,226 posts)
38. The NY (and Arazonia) delegations need to be challenged at the convention
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

There clearly enough evidence to call in to question some of the results.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
39. Some charming stories about Ms Haslett-Rudiano
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:42 PM
Apr 2016

She bought a brownstone for $5000 at a city distressed property sale, let it deteriorate further for decades and accumulated thousands of dollars of fines and citations. She then flipped the house to a developer for 6.6 million.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-city-eyesore-sells-for-millions-1409934333

She also was caught living in Queens while lying by saying she lived in Brooklyn so she could keep her position as a Republican district leader.

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/elections-official-refuses-sell-run-down-brownstone-article-1.1367238

All in all, someone I'd trust to run Brooklyn elections. Do I really need to insert the "sarcasm" smiley?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
49. Keep an eye on the whole scene.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

This could be a fig leaf, covering over other anomalies and using this Republican as a shiny object.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
118. Agreed, not just one person did this. There are too many variables in the works here
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

1) Closing of polling stations in the name of saving money: check, just one person did that

2) Different polling hours from one polling station to another: check, just one person did that

3) Bad information or no information going to voters has to where and when to vote: check, just one person did that

4) You have one New York Republican (this Republican has had problems of sorts in the past [hint, hint]) who controls the Republican voting rolls steamrolls one New York Democrat who controls the Democratic voting rolls (this Democrat has had problems of sorts in the past too): check, what is this shit? Talk about bait! Right, I maybe a dumb ass, but I am not stupid.

.
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
127. Because Hill ...puroortedly..."won".....it's all okay
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

If Trump had won over Hill...in the national...with this


Then...........

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
55. And whoa it did happen in NY like in AZ
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:22 PM
Apr 2016

"election improprieties in Iowa, Nevada,
Massachusetts, Arizona and other states.
Everyone agreed, if turnout was high, Sanders could win.
Clinton was leading the early vote in Arizona (68%-31%).
Sanders won the election day vote in Arizona (55%-45%).
Sanders won the Maricopa County election day vote by an even larger margin (68%-31%).
Tens of thousands of Arizonan’s (the vast majority being Democrats), were not allowed
to vote on election day because their party affiliation was mysteriously changed prior to
the election without their consent.
Wait times were up to 5 hours at polling places in Arizona discouraging even more voters
from participating.
The media called the election for Clinton while thousands still hadn’t voted.
The same thing will happen in New York this week.

(on FB, went back to find the link but couldn't find the article again)


 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
132. This primary is an illustration
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:04 PM
Apr 2016

of how if you think you live in a Democracy, you haven't been paying attention.

Corruption left, right and in the damn middle.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
153. Ha ha
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:14 PM
Apr 2016

You mean go somewhere and penn where it has greater chance for value?

I think value is a relative (fleeting) concept

For a decade plus we've been fighting Romney ans Sachs. Dozens are in jail, law firms have closed and more than a 100 fed agents have quit, or where pushed out or joined the dark side.
.
No one cares...unless main stream tells them to

And they never had the inclination

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
61. Electoral integrity index
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

If this is the democracy America presumes to spread with economic and military force, god help the planet.

Is there actually more systematic evidence suggesting that American elections are flawed? And how does the U.S. compare with other long-standing democracies worldwide?

New evidence that gives insights into this issue has been gathered by the Electoral Integrity Project. This independent research project is funded by the Australian Research Council’s Laureate award with a team of researchers based at the University of Sydney and Harvard University.

The 2015 annual Year in Election report compares the risks of flawed and failed elections, and looks at how well countries around the world meet international standards. The report gathers assessments from over 2,000 experts to evaluate the perceived integrity of all 180 national parliamentary and presidential contests held between July 1, 2012 to December 31, 2015 in 139 countries worldwide. These include 54 national elections held last year.

Forty experts were asked to assess each election by answering 49 questions The overall 100-point Perceptions of Electoral Integrity (PEI) index is constructed by summing up the responses.

https://www.popularresistance.org/us-elections-ranked-worst-among-western-democracies/




 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
71. Is It Me Or Does Bernie Remind You Of The Lorax?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:45 AM
Apr 2016

I guess Trump would be the Onceler. Hillary I dont know...she's more like a star-bellied sneech.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
73. EXCLUSIVE: Board of Elections official won’t sell vacant, run-down upper West Side brownstone
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:26 AM
Apr 2016

Sunday, June 9, 2013

Diane Haslett-Rudiano, the Board of Election’s chief clerk in Brooklyn, has been asked by community leaders to sell her empty townhouse on W. 76th St., on which she owes more than $12,000 in back taxes and has 20 Buildings Department violations. Haslett-Rudiano says she’s holding onto the structure for emotional reasons.

Haslett-Rudiano has worked for the board since 1999 and makes $113,000 a year, records show.

In 2005, the city Department of Investigations unearthed evidence that she lived in Queens while being registered to vote and serving as a Republican district leader in Brooklyn.

The Board of Elections took no action, however, after her lawyer presented unspecified documents that were never made public.

Response to Jopin Klobe (Reply #73)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
125. Just stop the conspiracy theory nonsense
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

Given the margins she won every single borough in NYC, the purge OBVIOUSLY would have hurt Hillary far more than Bernie. The sore loser schtik is pathetic but this REPUBLICAN who purged should be charged. She was obviously targeting Democrats.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
147. LOL
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

I have FAR more reason to think Hillary was the one who was hurt by the purge - she took Brooklyn 60-40. And you desperate souls have yet to explain how this REPUBLICAN woman knew - 6 months ago - just which entire buildings and blocks would have voted for Bernie. I think you sound like lunatics.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
113. Who cares, though. They got the results they wanted and that's all that matters in America.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:31 AM
Apr 2016

Democracy is for lip service only.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
117. So come November...she will be crowned
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:57 AM
Apr 2016

Or she wont be....(should Cruz, or Donald , or Mitt)
.
Either way.....a nightmare is upon U.S.

The likes of which none have ever seen before

All due to emotions controlling many brains

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
133. Somebody in GD:P had the nerve
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

to call it a coronation was sexist.

I mean, seriously?

Our country has lost its damn mind if people can utter such things with a straight face.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
136. The babbling condescend works...only if you let it
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton is part of the problem

And G-d probably won't help U.S. if they get what they wish for

Martak Sarno

(77 posts)
120. Because she's a Republican?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:30 AM
Apr 2016

For those questioning the possibilty of a person setting up a voting scheme to affect Democrats because they are a Republican (so it couldn't have been either Hillary or Bernie, uh huh!), I have to ask:

How many Republicans did Obama keep from the Bush Administration and how many Republicans and Conservative Business leaders or for that fact, center-right Democrats, has he added or appointed to positions of very influential power during the past 7 years rather than Leftist or even Centrist Democrats and was there even ONE complaint from the Republicans (or Democrats for that matter) over his Republican choices?

Just how many Republicans are still working for Obama in any capacity?

Anyone?

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
121. One less ( hopefully) when Holder exit transpired
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016

Though, arguably, the vote is still out on his replacement

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
126. Disgusting
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

To think that this country encourages voting all over the world, yet can't even coordinate free and true elections from coast to coast here. We are the mockery of the world.

And of course we know the GOP realizes that the only way they can win elections is to illegally deny voting to so many. Plus the Dems are not much better, fighting to keep established politicians (Clinton) in power.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
130. All Empire's discourage truth/ freedom under guise
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

And pretense.

We are a mockery society

Because babbling banter obfuscative

Works

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
131. This has to be the most corrupt Primary
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

I have ever seen.

Voter suppression, running out of BALLOTS (as though you didn't know how many people were in your district, get the list you goofball), closing voting places. What a shit storm.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
134. Concur...if the outcomes of such resulted in Bernie wins
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:06 PM
Apr 2016

There would be lynchings
.
From DWS outright boast of rigging to running out the door and poll closings

$achs gets what it wants.

N'est-ce pas!

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
138. You do not speak it (ever said par le) but you write it
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

Clever enough to add the "le"

Which dodges the 1918 book so le popular

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
146. No need to wave the finger
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

all I said was "a little bit" in reference to your question did I speak french.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
167. My understanding is that this official sacrificed because he's a Republican
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:54 PM
Apr 2016

in order to take suspicion away from Democratic complicity in this massive election fraud.

My understanding is that, as a Republican, he had nothing to do with the Democratic primaries.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1810209

It makes sense to me. It's very hard for me to believe that the Republicans would go through all that trouble to screw up a Democratic primary. Who benefited the most from this fraud and others perpetrated in the Democratic primaries?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
181. I think this is a signal to all of the "little" people
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

to remind us of how few fucks they give about anybody but themselves and their direct family members.

Aristocracy is on the way, and the feces is going to hit the oscillating air moving machine.

trudyco

(1,258 posts)
173. So Diane H-R sells a decrepit brownstone for >1.9 million profit
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016

She sells it to the daughter of Lowey, who is a Superdelegate for Hillary Clinton?
Or at least Nita Lowey is some sort of local campaign head for Hillary? This is in 2014 and it's sold for 6.6 million, a rundown eye sore bought for $5000 in the seventies and left to rot. Sold in a neighborhood where nicely maintained places sold for 4.7 million. But Diane manages to sell it to Donna(?) Lowey for 6.6 million. This doesn't feel like a bribe to anybody???? Paid in advance?

Now Diane is taking the fall, and she happens to be a republican who already has a reputation for fraud. She fraudulently represented herself as living in Brooklyn so she could keep her leadership position when in fact she lived in Queens in 2005. Right?

And the head of the BOE who would be in charge of investigating the purging and other acts of election fraud is also a Clinton elected delegate or Superdelegate? So they would have no incentive to really investigate if it harmed the Clinton Campaign.

I'm just connecting all the dots and trying to get my head around this. It's weird to me that Bernie Sanders handily won Colorado where we have a closed caucus.The thinking has been that it was the young vote but there were only 3 youngsters in my precinct of about 130 people. Very under-represented actually. We went for Bernie 2 to 1. The only thing consistent with the national story is that the people who voted for Hillary were white middle aged women almost exclusively. A few men.

So what I'm trying to say is that supposedly Caucuses favor Bernie because they are open and that lets independents vote. That wasn't true in Colorado. And caucuses favor the nimble and flexible hour (really?) young but in fact I found it was difficult for college students because they couldn't get back to their home precinct. Hence, we had 3. I know this is only anecdotal.

I'm thinking that maybe the closed primaries where people are voting have been corrupted. New York is just very blatant. Clinton had a little too much help with her fans there. I thought that about George Bush, just didn't think it would be so within the Democratic Party.

Is there a way to elevate the investigation to the Federal level? Somebody not already pledged to one candidate or another? I wish we still had real investigative journalists. I'd like to know how many people had their affiliation changed to independent in the last year. And was the signature an obvious forgery. Things like that.

We need everybody over 18 automatically registered to vote, they can't be purged, they keep their voting right even if they go to jail, and the votes need to have paper receipts which are hand counted to tally up with any automated vote counting. No more superdelegates or closed primaries either. If the other party can mess up your primary by voting in the wrong candidate then you probably need to work on your message to your people. Primaries and GE should be a holiday. Emergency people get half shifts.

There must be a way to let peoples votes be counted with transparency and a reasonable amount of privacy. Both for primaries and the GE.

trudyco

(1,258 posts)
185. I was hoping somebody could tell me if I have it right.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:31 PM
Apr 2016

And I don't think it is outright bribery, that would be too obvious, but it really smells if it's true. It's more like unethical than illegal maybe? I don't know. It's like a degree of separation for quid pro quo. It would be interesting to know where the daughter got the 6.6 million. Just an amazing coincidence that the Repub happen to make a significant financial gain from a Dem (well her daughter) who is closely connected to Clinton and then this Repub just happen to do some "oops" incompetent moves. Major ones. Then there are the people who got switched to unaffiliated so they couldn't vote. How many were there? How many had forged signatures? Or was that all a Hoax. I don't know much about the NYC inner workings but the discrepency in the exit poll and then the conflicting explanations... it feels like George Bush all over again....

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
182. De Blasio actually
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

…said this morning for all of New York to hear, that there's something wrong, that candidate partisans run the Board of Elections and use tax payer money to do it.

You can bet that Bernie has no surrogates or partisans on the NY Board of Elections.

So in essence, if you deconstruct how this works—the HRC machine runs the voting mechanism in NYC.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
192. I think they did
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 08:30 AM
Apr 2016

…..what they could in some of the smaller Western primary states too.

I'm not thinking she stole the election and Bernie would have won NY. It's that she may have stolen the margin. Which is still important.

Analysts said that if Bernie had come within 7 to 10 points in NY it would have been a huge upset and very meaningful, even though she ultimately won. Because NY is really her turf. So she had to trounce. I think her final win was 16 points. She may have "massaged" 6 of those points through purges, lost ballots, late poll openings—whatever.

I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of it, frankly.

There's no way the corporate system is going to let us have our candidate without a huge fight.

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