'All Belgians to get iodine pills' in case of nuclear accident
Source: AFP
Brussels (AFP) - Belgium is to provide iodine pills to its entire population of around 11 million people to protect against radioactivity in case of a nuclear accident, the health minister was quoted as saying Thursday.
The move comes as Belgium faces growing pressure from neighbouring Germany to shutter two ageing nuclear power plants near their border due to concerns over their safety.
Iodine pills, which help reduce radiation build-up in the thyroid gland, had previously only been given to people living within 20 kilometres (14 miles) of the Tihange and Doel nuclear plants.
Health Minister Maggie De Block was quoted by La Libre Belgique newspaper as telling parliament that the range had now been expanded to 100 kilometres (60 miles), effectively covering the whole country.
Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/belgians-iodine-pills-case-nuclear-accident-114919526.html
malthaussen
(17,195 posts)In the U.S., we'd make sure everyone had to buy them.
-- Mal
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)And, make a law that people have to buy it.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)no less than $100.00 a pop, generating millions in profits which would go directly into the pocket of the crooked CEO. America.....land of the fleeced.
braddy
(3,585 posts)http://www.ocregister.com/articles/tablets-241757-emergency-san.html
"Homes and businesses in San Clemente, Dana Point and San Juan Capistrano can expect to receive a notice in the mail this week offering free potassium iodide tablets for use if there ever is a high-level release of radiation from the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station.
Jen Tucker, San Clemente's emergency-planning officer, says people can expect to receive the notice anytime Thursday through Saturday. Households and businesses that would like to receive the tablets can return a postcard by April 30 and the tablets will be mailed within four to six weeks, the city announced."
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Anyone in Pennsylvania:
http://www.wtae.com/news/department-of-health-distributing-free-potassium-iodide-to-pennsylvanians-near-nuclear-power-plants/34335576
North Carolina:
http://www.lincolntimesnews.com/2014/09/26/health-departments-to-offer-free-ki-in-case-of-nuclear-emergency/
A lot of states do this.
braddy
(3,585 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Yeah, it's pretty normal in the US for state health departments or emergency planning offices to distribute free KI pills to residents within a specified distance from a nuclear plant.
I thought everyone knew that.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)JohnyCanuck
(9,922 posts)houston16revival
(953 posts)from an old leaded glass CRT?
Most places won't accept them anymore
FBaggins
(26,737 posts)Stable iodine doesn't protect against radiation... it only protects against a specific radioactive element taking up residence in your body.
The most common exposure in a nuclear accident is to radioactive iodine. It has a short half-life (and is thus more active) and an even shorter biological half-life... with one notable exception. Iodine is retained in your thyroid gland. Because of this, thyroid cancer is the most common health impact from a nuclear accident (bombs are different of course).
What stable iodine does is flood your thyroid so that there isn't any room for the radioactive iodine to take up residence. It thus flushes faster from the body - dramatically reducing the risk to those people who live near an accident.
Back to your question - unless the exposure you're trying to avoid is from radioactive iodine... the pills won't do you any good at all. They could even harm you.
houston16revival
(953 posts)but we are having two different conversations I think
I was asking about the lead CRT, television tubes, as a shield from radiation,
much like a traditional 35mm lead film shield bag
I wouldn't imagine a CRT would offer much protection, but seems to me some
are lead lined in addition to lead in the glass. I have a 19" TV that is
85 pounds, 12 pounds heavier than my last 27" CRT TV
But along the lines you mention, I have organic iodine drops, keep a bottle on hand
in case of a radioactive event. Also a little kelp
I won't mash the TV tube and eat it! funny!
FBaggins
(26,737 posts)Did you know that right after Fukushima, we had people in the US (including anti-nuke activists in Vermont) who were taking iodine pills?
Taking stable iodine to reduce the body's uptake of radioiodine makes sense if (and only if) there's a serious nuclear accident very close by. Otherwise, the dangers of iodine poisoning far outweigh the risks that you think you're reducing. To make things worse, many of the symptoms of an iodine overdose (nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, etc.) can easily be mistaken for radiation poisoning in an environment where paranoia combined with confirmation bias rules. Causing people to panic and even take more.
If Belgium, out of an abundance of caution, wants to plan for the worst... then it makes sense to purchase sufficient supplies and stage them around the country for rapid distribution.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It's pretty normal.
The thing is: "it makes sense to purchase sufficient supplies and stage them around the country for rapid distribution" assumes that people will actually go into the hot zone to distribute them, or that they will somehow catch up with evacuees.
Since it is a prophylaxis against uptake of certain isotopes, then the timing is essential, and it is concurrent with evacuation. They are distributed with instructions not to take them unless there is an announcement to take them.
FBaggins
(26,737 posts)But this is an entire national population.
assumes that people will actually go into the hot zone to distribute them
Yep... which is just what should happen. First responders, Nat Guard, Military... they all have NBC gear to accommodate that very plan.
It's a oversimplification, but one rule of thumb is that the expected radiation dose should be above 1-10 mSV from I131 in order for the avoided risk from exposure to outweigh the risk from the normal dose of KI. The problem is that some people treat them like a dietary supplement and don't limit themselves to that dosage.
They are distributed with instructions not to take them unless there is an announcement to take them.
Which did nothing to stop LOTS of people here in the US from taking them even though there were NO announcements here to do so.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Yes, it is an entire population of a nation that is very small, and has seven reactors.
Are you aware of the dimensions of Belgium?
FBaggins
(26,737 posts)It's still over ten million people - the bulk of whom live outside of the current reasonable standard.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Liege and Antwerp are major population centers. They get a heck of a wind for a good bit of the year coming off the North Sea. That's why they have all of those windmills in Belgium and Netherlands. The Doel plant is upwind of a good bit of the country.
You know how it is in Belgium. If Jens got something from the government, then Pieter is going to bitch if he didn't get it too.
Maybe it's also a civil defense thing, like Switzerland. Since everyone else has a habit of invading Belgium in order to get to France, maybe they are planning for other things.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)to live in Switzerland, we were given iodine pills as well. They are replaced every two years and are sent to your home address.
ugh
muriel_volestrangler
(101,316 posts)The Gundremmingen Plant which is run by the German utility RWE is located 120 km north-west of Munich.
The computer viruses were discovered in the plants B unit on a system that was retrofitted in 2008 with data visualisation software that works alongside the equipment used to move nuclear fuel rods. The W32.Ramnit and Conficker viruses, among others, were discovered on the computer.
W32.Ramnit is a virus built for the sole purpose of stealing files from an infected computer. It primarily targets Microsoft Windows and was discovered in 2010. The virus is distributed through USB flash drives and its aim is to allow an attacker to gain remote control over an Internet connected system.
http://www.itproportal.com/2016/04/28/german-nuclear-plant-infected-viruses-malware/
Towlie
(5,324 posts)They should market it as "Nuke Away."
(a brand name introduced by Robin Williams in his role as Mork.)
truthisfreedom
(23,147 posts)Potassium Iodide (bitter, limited shelf life), and possum iodate (long shelf life, better tolerated by picky children).
https://www.campingsurvival.com/mecopoiok190.html
MowCowWhoHow III
(2,103 posts)The Dutch government has ordered 15 million iodine pills to protect people living near nuclear power plants in the event of an accident, the health ministry announced Friday.
The pills, used to reduce the effects of radiation after exposure, would be given to those under the age of 18 and pregnant women living within a 100 kilometer radius of a nuclear power plant, Health Minister Edith Schippers told AFP.
The move comes as concerns rise about aging reactors across the border in Belgium. Maggie De Block, Belgiums health minister, on Thursday announced that she is considering handing out iodine tablets to vulnerable citizens in the event of a nuclear emergency.
Dutch authorities said they would follow how [the Belgians] carry out the distribution of these pills and where they will be available whether people will have to go and find them at a pharmacy or at a local health service, Schippers said.
http://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-follow-belgian-lead-and-stock-up-on-iodine-pills-nuclear-power-plants-accident-protection/