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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:20 AM Apr 2016

Former Speaker Boehner Calls Cruz 'Lucifer in the Flesh'

Source: NBC News

John Boehner is not a big fan of Ted Cruz.

So much so, in fact, that the former Republican House Speaker told an audience at Stanford University Wednesday that the Texas senator is "Lucifer in the flesh" and a "miserable son of a bitch."

Asked about the 2016 presidential candidate at a forum hosted by Stanford in Government (SIG) and the Stanford Speakers Bureau, Boehner drew laughter for making a face of disgust, according to the Stanford Daily.

"Lucifer in the flesh," Boehner said, according to the paper. "I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life."

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/former-speaker-boehner-calls-cruz-lucifer-flesh-n564081

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Former Speaker Boehner Calls Cruz 'Lucifer in the Flesh' (Original Post) IDemo Apr 2016 OP
I feel like I should attend some sort of 12 step program for this but... jcgoldie Apr 2016 #1
After all the attempts to repeal Obamacare? liberalnarb Apr 2016 #5
I said sometimes jcgoldie Apr 2016 #7
We might have liked him more Plucketeer Apr 2016 #6
That's just because he looks good next to Cruz. tabasco Apr 2016 #8
Good one. brush Apr 2016 #15
The GOP has a problem, crazy has been a part of their formular for some years, now it is progressed Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #2
Must be a relief to finally be able to speak his mind. eom UtahLib Apr 2016 #3
While I had little use for Boehner as Speaker or anything else Warpy Apr 2016 #4
Worse, there is no such thing as Lucifer. Unfortunately we cannot say that about the Unholy One. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2016 #9
I'm big on scientific evidence and historical fact elljay Apr 2016 #16
We know she likes them crunchy. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2016 #19
boehner enid602 Apr 2016 #10
Man, I really hate having to agree with Boehner, but, he really nailed it! Coventina Apr 2016 #11
Even Jimmy Carter preferred Trump over Cruz! 7962 Apr 2016 #12
"Creepy" is becoming a word associated with Rafael Cruz. keithbvadu2 Apr 2016 #33
And that's different from any other Republican - how? n/t Triana Apr 2016 #13
Senator Cruz responded, thanking former Speaker Boehner for his kind words. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #14
Bwaaaahahaha!! tabasco Apr 2016 #27
Sounds like Cruz and Carly should get along just fine. - n/t Jim__ Apr 2016 #17
I have a feeling Boehner does not miss his old job at all. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2016 #18
ROFLMAO houston16revival Apr 2016 #20
i dont miss this orange asshole at all lunasun Apr 2016 #21
Cruz is the son of an insane preacher man.. kind of makes sense, given that there is to be balance vkkv Apr 2016 #22
We are going to have Cruz around for a long time, so keep close track The Second Stone Apr 2016 #23
Oopsie! Daemonaquila Apr 2016 #24
Would he consider endorsing Cruz? Renew Deal Apr 2016 #25
John Boehner WOULD KNOW!!! ~nt vkkv Apr 2016 #26
Best description of Cruz ever. Vinca Apr 2016 #28
I still like Lindsey Grahams comment about Cruz the best. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #29
Awesome. Somehow I think Boehner does not miss his old job. And he's trying to warn the country... Hekate Apr 2016 #30
Some interesting things, here. sofa king Apr 2016 #31
Quick K&R for that reply ... lots of food for thought there - thanks! (n/t) Nihil Apr 2016 #34
What did Lucifer do to deserve such an insult? rurallib Apr 2016 #32
$$$ Scarsdale Apr 2016 #35
He's become almost human Fritz Walter May 2016 #36
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
6. We might have liked him more
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

if Cruz and Co. hadn't had John's hands tied. Of course, it was Boehner and Co. that let those malformed creatures into DC in the first place.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
8. That's just because he looks good next to Cruz.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

Whereas Cruz is Lucifer incarnate, Boehner is a lesser but important demon, possibly Belial.

brush

(53,778 posts)
15. Good one.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:00 AM
Apr 2016

I agree. Let's keep things in perspective and avoid a mini-love fest for Boehner. He's right about Cruz but we remember his actions too — or should I say non-actions?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. The GOP has a problem, crazy has been a part of their formular for some years, now it is progressed
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:24 AM
Apr 2016

to what they have now.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
4. While I had little use for Boehner as Speaker or anything else
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

he seems to be accurately describing Cruz. People who have worked for him or with him universally despise him.

Even his kids don't want to get near him.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
9. Worse, there is no such thing as Lucifer. Unfortunately we cannot say that about the Unholy One. n/t
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016

elljay

(1,178 posts)
16. I'm big on scientific evidence and historical fact
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

so while I would have agreed with you pre-Cruz/Fiorina, I'm gonna have to hold off a bit longer post-Cruz/Fiorina. I'm not yet confident Cruz won't grow a set of wings and start toasting opponents with his fire breath (Carly probably prefers them well-done).

houston16revival

(953 posts)
20. ROFLMAO
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

HAHA! Beyond delicious.

But why do Boehner and the religious goody two shoes characterize
everything as religious?

Lucifer? really?

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
22. Cruz is the son of an insane preacher man.. kind of makes sense, given that there is to be balance
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

in everything.. yin yang, third law of physics... etc.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
23. We are going to have Cruz around for a long time, so keep close track
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:05 PM
Apr 2016

of him. Even Trump is preferable to this evil turd. Worse than Nixon.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
24. Oopsie!
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:12 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe he shouldn't take the organizer's statement that he should be extra frank because this isn't being broadcast so literally next time. Not that I feel sorry for him.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
29. I still like Lindsey Grahams comment about Cruz the best.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:40 PM
Apr 2016

“If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you.”

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
30. Awesome. Somehow I think Boehner does not miss his old job. And he's trying to warn the country...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:57 PM
Apr 2016

...to take the oleaginous senator seriously.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
31. Some interesting things, here.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:01 PM
Apr 2016

1) Ted Cruz has obviously been ostracized by the Senate, in less than four years.

The Senate--even Republicans, to some extent--plays by the rule of "comity," meaning that you get along with others and listen to minority dissent, or you get cock-blocked from ever doing anything important there. Republicans routinely violate the rules of comity en masse, but never outside of the herd, or they risk being blocked from ever having legislation passed, ever being invited to co-sign important (and politically rewarding) bills, and so on. For Senators to speak so poorly of Cruz, and to refuse to endorse him when a scumbag like Trump is winning, means Cruz has to be a dirtball like none other. A dirtball in the opinion of racist liars, insider traders, career politicians, serial infidellists, and paedophiles (recall that before Hastert, the Senate had its own pedophilia scandal, which was covered up). What in the hell does that mean?

2) House leadership, including Boehner, hates Ted Cruz.

Since John Boehner isn't a good or responsible person by any objective measure, it means Ted Cruz must have done something really shitty to Boehner, personally. The obvious answer is that Cruz must have been instrumental in kicking Boehner out of the Speaker's position, probably by using his alcoholism (and, presumably, other uninhibited behavior) against him.

3) NOBODY wants to talk about what, exactly, Ted Cruz has done.

This almost certainly means that Cruz crossed the line into using the excoriable personal behavior of Republican Members of Congress for his own personal gain. He also did it while maintaining a harem of at least five mistresses, which is the hallmark of a severely anti-social person and which is normally the first thing Congress would use against him (Remember Bob Livingston?). Normally, Congress has an array of ways to deal with loose cannon such as Cruz, and we already know he's hardly above reproach. But they're not touching him... yet.

From these things we have to conclude that Ted Cruz has a huge and highly damaging file on many or most of the Republican Members of Congress, and that he's already threatened to use it. Trump was willing to call Cruz out on his mistresses, but Congress won't touch it--probably because they're on the hook for something much worse, and by much worse I mean it's gotta be dead girls and live boys, insider trading on terror warnings, and other awful stuff like that.

For years now I've been arguing that the Republican Party is a criminal organization, already at the mercy of other criminals who are willing to threaten disclosure. I'm pretty sure now that Ted Cruz is one of those extortionists who is using something huge and unforgivable against the Republican Party at large.

Obviously, we need to find a way to maneuver Cruz into disclosing what that is.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
36. He's become almost human
Sun May 1, 2016, 05:11 PM
May 2016

After this comment, and the video clip from the White House Correspondents Dinner (wiping away a tear while watching a movie and offering President Obama a cigarette), I'm beginning to realize how the GOP machine could poison one's spirit.

He may still have a soul -- or fragments thereof -- but the Repuke party is totally devoid of any redeeming qualities. Or, in contemporary parlance, a melding of Sauron, Voldemort and the latest Ghostbusters' slime.

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