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George II

(67,782 posts)
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:43 PM Apr 2016

Sanders asks for extension on financial disclosure forms

Source: The Hill

April 28, 2016, 05:45 pm

Bernie Sanders has requested an extension for filing his personal financial disclosure report, which would delay the filing until after the final Democratic primary votes are cast.

The campaign confirmed the request, noting the rigors of the campaign schedule.

"As the senator has noted, Jane does their taxes, and they've been a tad bit busy," campaign spokeswoman Symone Sanders told The Hill.

The Center for Public Integrity's Dave Levinthal first reported the extension, tweeting an image of the letter to the Federal Election Commission (FEC), which also cited "Senator Sanders' current campaign schedule."



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278092-sanders-asks-for-extension-on-financial-disclosure-forms



This is almost unprecedented. This isn't a campaign finance disclosure, this is his PERSONAL financial disclosure form. It's simple to fill out, and is required of all congressional office holders.
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Sanders asks for extension on financial disclosure forms (Original Post) George II Apr 2016 OP
He has been running for how long? LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #1
Has Hillary asked for an extension of her Wall Street Trabscripts yet? Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #2
There's no Federal requirement for a candidate to release any trabscripts, Chassie. George II Apr 2016 #3
So Clintonian: There's nothing illegal here! Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #4
So have a law passed that ALL speeches given by Presidental contenders dbackjon Apr 2016 #8
Read again - this isn't about TAX RETURNS, this is about Personal Financial Disclosures.... George II Apr 2016 #22
John Kerry gave paid speeches as a Senator, which used to be legal. Did you or anyone else pnwmom Apr 2016 #31
Doesn't that make it sexist? Ohioblue22 May 2016 #66
Your attempt at equating the two are laughable. Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #43
It's nothing other than a smoke and mirrors tactic by Sanders pandr32 May 2016 #53
You seem to be the one making hypocritical hay dbackjon Apr 2016 #6
There is no legal or historical precedent for that. It's just a special standard for the first woman pnwmom Apr 2016 #26
It has nothing to do with her being a woman. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #37
Men have never, ever been asked to provide transcripts of their paid speeches pnwmom Apr 2016 #38
So you think the woman who submitted the question did so because Hillary was a woman? thesquanderer Apr 2016 #40
She wasn't the first person to ask that question. She just repeated it. But are women pnwmom Apr 2016 #41
Yes, women can be sexist. But it seems unfair to just automatically assume that this one is. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #42
And it is a legit question why Bernie has STILL only released one tax return, after claiming falsely pnwmom Apr 2016 #45
Sure it's a legit question. It has nothing to do with anything I've said, though. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #46
They're different AND he doesn't want to disclose them. n/t pnwmom Apr 2016 #47
Her gender has nothing to do with this OwlinAZ May 2016 #59
Stop deflecting JoFerret May 2016 #50
What is he hiding? dbackjon Apr 2016 #5
He doesn't want to reveal yet that he has been financing Trump all these years. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #32
ha ha ha ha ha ha bobopa Apr 2016 #35
It's not like they have a bundle of money. greymouse Apr 2016 #7
It's a Federal requirement, even if they were paupers. George II Apr 2016 #9
If you could make money running your mouth, Chicago1980 Apr 2016 #44
Sanders alone earns about a quarter million a year. He's in top percentage. KittyWampus May 2016 #57
I guess he doesn't have to according to the Clinton Indiana phone bankers LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #10
Anecdotal hearsay. George II Apr 2016 #23
Cool Story Bro. Nt pkdu Apr 2016 #30
I think it has to do with investments Andy823 Apr 2016 #11
Odd that The Hill didn't point out that it's "almost unprecedented". winter is coming Apr 2016 #12
George II has better sources, he accidentally spilled classified intel. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #33
Bernie houston16revival Apr 2016 #13
Dirty Bernie alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #14
I don't think he's dirty. 6000eliot Apr 2016 #24
At best it's shoddy campaigning N/T JoFerret May 2016 #55
Very moral Bernie OwlinAZ May 2016 #61
I'm not smearing anybody. 6000eliot May 2016 #65
Must be something in there MyNameGoesHere Apr 2016 #15
They don't have time to fire up the Turbotax, but they have time to file an extension. Squinch Apr 2016 #16
Goodness me. Everything seems so difficult for this poor man. swag Apr 2016 #17
Joke candidates should not have to do personal financial disclosures The Second Stone Apr 2016 #18
We need the returns from Trump and Sanders - joke candidates or not JoFerret May 2016 #56
I think it's odd that his wife does the taxes leftyladyfrommo Apr 2016 #19
I don't think I would want the (ahem) financially creative former president of Burlington College... swag Apr 2016 #20
I had to file Schedule C leftyladyfrommo Apr 2016 #21
It's really not rocket science. AirmensMom Apr 2016 #36
There's something very fishy about this, and it only heightens the media's interest. I think the.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #25
Trying to give back a few million to Daddy Warbucks. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #28
It truly is very odd - he's already filed this Disclosure in the past. All he has to do is... George II Apr 2016 #29
He's leaving this to his wife? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #27
Math is hard. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #34
Math must be, they still think there are enough delegates available to win the nomination. George II May 2016 #62
Gun manufacturer investments? ProgressiveEconomist Apr 2016 #39
Clear signal he knows it's over. JoFerret May 2016 #48
More amateurish behavior from the Sanders camp lanlady May 2016 #49
He's running out the clock because he knows the game is OVER JoFerret May 2016 #51
Without taking sides between Clinton and Sanders 1939 May 2016 #52
"A tad bit busy" the snark of that campaign staff is sickening. n/t livetohike May 2016 #54
The condescension of you is sickening. OwlinAZ May 2016 #63
Don't have to make one up. The hypocrisy and livetohike May 2016 #64
Hmmmm. Seems that Sanders' personal finances are a bit more complex than we thought. Nye Bevan May 2016 #58
I think it may have something to do with what they're paying Jane as a "strategist", "consultant"... George II May 2016 #60

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
2. Has Hillary asked for an extension of her Wall Street Trabscripts yet?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:49 PM
Apr 2016

Keep trying to make hipocrtical hay Georgie!

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
4. So Clintonian: There's nothing illegal here!
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

I bet people are a hell of a lot more interested in what's in Hillary's speeches than Bernie's tax returns!

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
8. So have a law passed that ALL speeches given by Presidental contenders
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:59 PM
Apr 2016

Must be released.


EVERY SINGLE ONE.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Read again - this isn't about TAX RETURNS, this is about Personal Financial Disclosures....
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:04 PM
Apr 2016

...that all candidates are REQUIRED to file by law.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
31. John Kerry gave paid speeches as a Senator, which used to be legal. Did you or anyone else
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

demand copies of his paid speeches? Or those of any Rethug?

No, this is a new special standard for Hillary.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
43. Your attempt at equating the two are laughable.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:49 PM
Apr 2016

While tax returns aren't required to be released, it's standard to do so.

Clinton has released numerous years of returns and financial disclosures.

Since when have speech transcripts been asked to be released since now? NEVER

I honestly don't give a damn about her speeches. I really don't care about his taxes, but I do know which ones are normally asked for and released without issue.

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
53. It's nothing other than a smoke and mirrors tactic by Sanders
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:06 AM
May 2016

...and his supporters have swallowed it whole.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
26. There is no legal or historical precedent for that. It's just a special standard for the first woman
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:26 PM
Apr 2016

to ever get this far in a race for President.

Sitting members of Congress used to be able to give paid speeches, and they were free to run for President. Did anyone ever ask John Kerry to give his transcripts? Or any of the Rethugs who have ever run?

Nope, this is just a new made-up rule for Hillary.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
37. It has nothing to do with her being a woman.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:33 PM
Apr 2016

She was initially asked about the speeches because of the huge amount of money companies like Goldman Sachs were paying her to give them. Then at one of the debates, someone (a woman, as it happens) submitted a question, which Chuck Todd asked:

TODD: Thank you both. Let me move on to our next question here, and in fact it comes to us through New England Cable News.

Secretary Clinton, it's addressed to you, and it's about this issue of the speeches, particularly to Goldman Sachs. This is what the questioner wrote verbatim.

"I am concerned with the abuses of Wall Street has taken with the American taxpayers money," and then she asks whether you would release the transcripts of your Goldman Sachs speeches, and then added, "Don't you think the voting public has a right to know what was said?"

But, let's make that bigger. Are you willing to release the transcripts of all your paid speeches? We do know through reporting that there were transcription services for all of those paid speeches. In full disclosure, would you release all of them?

CLINTON: I will look into it. I don't know the status, but I will certainly look into it.


The real problem for Clinton as I see it is that she simply wasn't prepared for the question, and so she gave an open-ended non-answer that pretty much guaranteed it would be brought up again. (As far as I know, there had been no request for transcripts before that moment.)

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
38. Men have never, ever been asked to provide transcripts of their paid speeches
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:41 PM
Apr 2016

even though sitting Senators and Congressman used to give them. John Kerry did while he was in the Senate.

So excuse me if I don't believe they're not moving the goal posts to go after the first woman to get this far.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
40. So you think the woman who submitted the question did so because Hillary was a woman?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:10 PM
Apr 2016

And everything that happens to Hillary that has not happened before *must* be because she's a woman?

I don't think anyone has ever made an issue before of whether or not someone was the person in a photo. I guess they did that because Bernie is Jewish.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
41. She wasn't the first person to ask that question. She just repeated it. But are women
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

capable of being sexist? Of course.

When I was growing up, women in this sexist culture commonly would make remarks about how other women were "catty" and that they preferred men.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
42. Yes, women can be sexist. But it seems unfair to just automatically assume that this one is.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:27 PM
Apr 2016

As for the other point, I thought that was the first call for transcripts, based on a NYT article, and also because, the way she answered it, it sounded like she was answering the question for the first time, that she hadn't been asked before. Do you actually know of any previous time she had been asked to release the transcripts?

BTW, I think this NYT article also does a good job at explaining why it is a legit question and why it became a big issue, having nothing to do with her being a woman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/opinion/mrs-clinton-show-voters-those-transcripts.html?_r=0

And they endorsed Hillary!

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
45. And it is a legit question why Bernie has STILL only released one tax return, after claiming falsely
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:01 AM
Apr 2016

that he had released several years.

And why he just now filed for an extension on his simple Senate financial disclosure form. All he would have had to do is say he had the same assets as last year . . . if that were true.

Unlike speech transcripts, releasing tax returns has long been a standard for everyone in Presidential races. But somehow Bernie can't release his returns before 2014 -- though all it would require is a call to the IRS to get copies, if he lost his hard drive somehow. Very strange.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
46. Sure it's a legit question. It has nothing to do with anything I've said, though.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:08 AM
Apr 2016

My only point here is about whether demands for transcripts are sexist. Your reply is a non-sequitur.

But re: "All he would have had to do is say he had the same assets as last year . . . if that were true. " -- So, they're probably not the same as last year. So?

 

OwlinAZ

(410 posts)
59. Her gender has nothing to do with this
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:49 AM
May 2016

Her history and how she's always tried to make her fortune is the point.

JoFerret

(10,704 posts)
50. Stop deflecting
Sun May 1, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

Good for her for getting paid to speak before hundreds of people. You have a problem with a woman getting well-paid to talk?

Stop with the paranoid nonsense.

Sanders not releasing the returns is shady, shifty and damn bad campaigning.

We need to ask Drumpf to disclose his taxes too. Now THAT is important. Can't do that when Sanders drags his feet on a basic simple request.

What IS the problem?

greymouse

(872 posts)
7. It's not like they have a bundle of money.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:58 PM
Apr 2016

Or that they're collecting $1/4 mil a speech for influence.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
11. I think it has to do with investments
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:10 PM
Apr 2016

I think you posted a link once showing he and his wife have some investment income, yet when he finally released his 2014 tax return, and it was posted here on DU, there were no amounts in his capital gains, or his dividend boxes, which makes no sense because there should always be something in the dividend box if one has investments. I think he may not want people to know what he has invested in and how much he makes on those investments. Just my take on this.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
12. Odd that The Hill didn't point out that it's "almost unprecedented".
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

Nor did they try to give in the scandal! scandal! spin you're attempting.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
24. I don't think he's dirty.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:07 PM
Apr 2016

I do think that he probably has Wall Street investments that are going to make his attacks on others look hypocritical.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
65. I'm not smearing anybody.
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

Does he have a good excuse for why he hasn't released his tax forms? Other than the non-excuse that Hillary didn't release transcripts of speeches she was under ABSOLUTELY NO obligation to release, that is?

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
16. They don't have time to fire up the Turbotax, but they have time to file an extension.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:41 PM
Apr 2016

There is absolutely something he is hiding, and we'll never know what it is.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
18. Joke candidates should not have to do personal financial disclosures
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:44 PM
Apr 2016

However, all members of Congress are required by law to do so. And that should remain the law.

JoFerret

(10,704 posts)
56. We need the returns from Trump and Sanders - joke candidates or not
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:12 AM
May 2016

Actually - demagogues would be more accurate. I don't think Sanders is a joke.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
19. I think it's odd that his wife does the taxes
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

Is she a tax accountant?

I would never try and do my own taxes. The whole thing is too complicated and the tax laws keep changing. I want a qualified tax preparer to sign off on them.

Especially someone in his position. It is so important that your taxes are done correctly.

swag

(26,487 posts)
20. I don't think I would want the (ahem) financially creative former president of Burlington College...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:56 PM
Apr 2016

doing my taxes.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
21. I had to file Schedule C
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:59 PM
Apr 2016

and it was amazing just how many forms were required just for my little pet sitting business. I would never try that by myself . I really don't want to get crosswise with the IRS.

AirmensMom

(14,642 posts)
36. It's really not rocket science.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:18 PM
Apr 2016

I've done our taxes for decades, except after we moved once. The one time we used a CPA, he got it wrong. Fortunately, I caught it and was able to fix it. Since then, I have used tax software. It keeps track of the changes in tax law, which makes it pretty easy to do these days. It's just follow the bouncing ball. I've done schedule C, sale of stock, itemized deductions, etc., even before there was software. I am not a CPA. I don't find it odd at all that Bernie's wife does their taxes. No one in my family hires a CPA.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
25. There's something very fishy about this, and it only heightens the media's interest. I think the....
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:21 PM
Apr 2016

calls for full disclosure will only get louder. Is there some "Wall Street" stuff in there that could thwart the "revolution"?

George II

(67,782 posts)
29. It truly is very odd - he's already filed this Disclosure in the past. All he has to do is...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

....update it from the last time. Simple. Unless of course.........

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
39. Gun manufacturer investments?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:04 PM
Apr 2016

I wouldn't be surprised. That would make his 2005 PLCAA vote not only bloody unconscionable, but a corrupt conflict of interest.

JoFerret

(10,704 posts)
48. Clear signal he knows it's over.
Sun May 1, 2016, 08:08 AM
May 2016

The Sanders are running out the clock on this.

When he concedes the pressure to disclose will be off.

What on earth is the problem? Seems so shady.

Either that or he and his campaign were unready and unprepared and he was unfit for office.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
49. More amateurish behavior from the Sanders camp
Sun May 1, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

What, doesn't he know a CPA or have a family friend who could fill out the form? If Hillary was being this coy with her financial disclosures, Sanders wouldn't hesitate to use it against her. First he won't release his tax filings (save one) because, who knows, Jane misplaced the shoe box where she keeps them. Now they're too busy to do fill out a form. And he is qualified to be president because...beats me.

JoFerret

(10,704 posts)
51. He's running out the clock because he knows the game is OVER
Sun May 1, 2016, 09:51 AM
May 2016

Does not reflect well on him or his campaign.

Those advisors and surrogates - unimpressive for many reasons.

1939

(1,683 posts)
52. Without taking sides between Clinton and Sanders
Sun May 1, 2016, 09:59 AM
May 2016

This doesn't pass the smell test. In fifteen minutes, i could hand you six years of tax returns and in a couple of hours, I could give you returns back to 1959. The only long delay would be in xeroxing all the paper.


livetohike

(22,143 posts)
64. Don't have to make one up. The hypocrisy and
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:23 AM
May 2016

sarcasm of the Sanders is also sickening. Blame the wife? How progressive of him. "Oh we are all so busy to bother with your silly government required forms!"

Laws only apply to others apparently.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
58. Hmmmm. Seems that Sanders' personal finances are a bit more complex than we thought.
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:45 AM
May 2016

It's trivially easy to supply the requested information for standard investments like bank accounts, stocks, bonds and mutual funds. Perhaps there is some complicated multi-currency, possibly offshore, tax-efficient investment structure here that does not lend itself to such simple analysis? Maybe some kind of complex limited partner interest?

George II

(67,782 posts)
60. I think it may have something to do with what they're paying Jane as a "strategist", "consultant"...
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:50 AM
May 2016

...or whatever.

I suspect when that number finally has to be revealed, a lot of 99%-er Sanders supporters will be disillusioned.

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