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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:00 PM May 2016

EXIT POLLS SHOW BIG BERNIE SANDERS LEAD IN INDIANA!!! (56-44%)

Source: The Huffington Post 6 minutes ago

Exit polls obtained by the Huffington Post have Bernie Sanders up by 12 points over Hillary Clinton, 56-44. Exit polls, of course, can often miss the mark by wide margins, but if they bear out, the results would suggest that the democratic’s popularity with voters hasn’t faded even as his path to the presidential nomination has narrowed.

Early returns, meanwhile, have Clinton pacing slightly ahead, but you can follow along in real time here. Indiana’s primary was favorable to Sanders in a number of ways. The state holds an open primary, which means voters unaffiliated with either party could participate. Sanders has struggled in closed primaries, where only registered Democrats could cast a ballot.

Indiana sends 83 pledged delegates and nine superdelegates to the Democratic convention this summer. The pledged delegates will be awarded to the candidates proportionally. The handful of polls conducted in Indiana last month suggested Clinton had a small lead.

Sanders spent nearly $2 million on advertisements in Indiana, compared with nothing by Clinton, in the hopes of regaining some of the momentum he lost with last week’s defeats in Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Maryland and Delaware. (He won Rhode Island.)

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-indiana_us_572908f5e4b096e9f08f7955

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EXIT POLLS SHOW BIG BERNIE SANDERS LEAD IN INDIANA!!! (56-44%) (Original Post) big_dog May 2016 OP
As 538 already explained, a Bernie win of even 15 points would barely affect the race. pnwmom May 2016 #1
Errrr... MowCowWhoHow III May 2016 #2
Does every part of the state vote the same? Kittycat May 2016 #6
No Some folks are just trying to bully (as usual) OwlinAZ May 2016 #39
no, Kittycat greymouse May 2016 #66
No Greymouse Kittycat May 2016 #68
Well, I'm posting just because your two monikers are next to each other! LOL n/t JimDandy May 2016 #73
Exit Polls and Election results are two different things JimDandy May 2016 #8
Doesn't Indiana have early voting? dbackjon May 2016 #13
Yes, a month of it -- both walk-in and by mail. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #22
Yeah, except early votes haven't been counted yet. Scuba May 2016 #24
Since Indiana has early voting, and sounds like it was used extensively dbackjon May 2016 #29
Not at all, unless one assumes that early voters differ widely from regular voters. Scuba May 2016 #50
In Arizona yes dbackjon May 2016 #56
Got a source? Here's one that contradicts your assertion ... Scuba May 2016 #57
Since I lived here and watching results come in dbackjon May 2016 #65
exactly, Jim greymouse May 2016 #67
... ever since 2000. They had been very accurate, before that election. Joe Chi Minh May 2016 #71
Yes. The 2001 federal elections law, HAVA, which authorized voting machines and required JimDandy May 2016 #72
exit polls are prone to statistical error, you know. ericson00 May 2016 #3
remember Bernie was leading 51-49 in Illinois and Missouri in the CNN morning/afternoon exits big_dog May 2016 #5
Exit polls are only accurate for Republican primaries. Pastiche423 May 2016 #4
Exit polls don't count early and absentee voters. And those voters tend to be older voters, pnwmom May 2016 #19
Exit polls are only accurate if you spend enough money to do them right and you adjust the data. L. Coyote May 2016 #34
"Exit polls, of course, can often miss the mark by wide margins..." Bodych May 2016 #7
Early voting makes the difference. n/t Lucinda May 2016 #10
100%. I agree with you completely. (N/T) Old Crow May 2016 #11
Do other countries have early voting? dbackjon May 2016 #16
Read Post 54 and become enlightened n/t Bodych May 2016 #62
Do those other countries have a month of early/absentee voting? Early voters here aren't pnwmom May 2016 #20
USA: Pollsters factor in early voters Bodych May 2016 #54
Do those other countries have a month of early/absentee voting? We have a primary pnwmom May 2016 #23
absentee voters were counted at 6pm eastern big_dog May 2016 #25
As I've said, Nate Silver said that despite the polls, Indiana looked good for Bernie pnwmom May 2016 #37
so does hc's campaign pay for her newly hired criminal attorney? questionseverything May 2016 #74
Does Bernie's pay for his? pnwmom May 2016 #75
link? questionseverything May 2016 #76
There are many. Here are a couple: pnwmom May 2016 #77
bernie is not named in the indictment or the focus of an on going fbi criminal questionseverything May 2016 #78
If you say it often enough, it will come true! passiveporcupine May 2016 #52
Other countries have much simpler elections than the US anigbrowl May 2016 #30
True Dat! n/t RoccoR5955 May 2016 #31
Properly executed exit polls.... HeartoftheMidwest May 2016 #61
Clinton 52% Sanders 48% 6:15 PM CDT trof May 2016 #9
ITS TIGHTENING...HRC by 1 PERCENT big_dog May 2016 #12
7:35 Eastern time, and it's 50/50. n/t RoccoR5955 May 2016 #28
The patient is in a coma MFM008 May 2016 #14
HRC's not in Indiana to do a speech tonight big_dog May 2016 #17
Rachel says they don't expect to win. And Nate Silver has also said pnwmom May 2016 #21
Actual headline: "Exit Polls Show Big Bernie Sanders Lead In Indiana, But Hillary Leads Early" SunSeeker May 2016 #15
corrected big_dog May 2016 #18
Hillary did really well with early voters oberliner May 2016 #26
DEAD HEAT big_dog May 2016 #27
Why did Sanders choose to speak so early? annavictorious May 2016 #32
gotta have something to brag about Skittles May 2016 #51
Except, Thus Far..... fred v May 2016 #33
Does that include early votes? RandySF May 2016 #35
At 7:47 pm ~26% in k8conant May 2016 #36
margin call big_dog May 2016 #58
Any Thing less than 65% for Bern, is a loss.,,, Cryptoad May 2016 #38
You bet. Am donating now. OwlinAZ May 2016 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Geronimoe May 2016 #43
as we have seen, only exit polls in other countries can be used to validate elections. bbgrunt May 2016 #41
So he is up right now 52-48% AllyCat May 2016 #42
What needs to be investigated? Chicago1980 May 2016 #44
Who picks the winner of the GE? quakerboy May 2016 #49
Well, the SCOTUS picked the winner of the GE back in 2000 Chicago1980 May 2016 #55
Clinton had the corp media playing her ads, cheerleading for her, dissing Bernie. She also had the Skwmom May 2016 #45
Unless he wins by 65% it doesn't mean jack sh*t. wisteria May 2016 #46
K&R nt TBF May 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Android3.14 May 2016 #48
Hillary is responsible for everything that is bad!!11!! Kingofalldems May 2016 #53
Rafael drops out wallyworld2 May 2016 #59
Excuse me. Cheviteau May 2016 #60
Seconded and thirded. HeartoftheMidwest May 2016 #63
100% (N/T) Old Crow May 2016 #69
I've heard of the conservadems losing badly and taking a victory lap, but this is Zoolander-level MisterP May 2016 #64
Exit Polls Wrong Again billhicks76 May 2016 #70

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
1. As 538 already explained, a Bernie win of even 15 points would barely affect the race.
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:04 PM
May 2016

It means that instead of needing to win 34% of remaining pledged delegates, Hillary would need to win 35%.

This is because of how pledged delegates are allocated -- they will be splitting them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511892222

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
6. Does every part of the state vote the same?
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:09 PM
May 2016

I have no idea who will win. But I know we vote differently than two counties to my East. I also know that Exit polls used to be reliable before touch screen machines. So we will just wait it out.

greymouse

(872 posts)
66. no, Kittycat
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:42 PM
May 2016

That's why when you're watching returns. it's important to see they areas they're coming from.

In my state, if I remember correctly, which I may not, Hillary took two wealthy areas and another one and Bernie took all the others, which were middle, working, and rural class.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
68. No Greymouse
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:53 PM
May 2016

While there are general trends overall, it's not always consistent county to county, precinct to precinct, even with like demographics. If that was the case, we would have seen far more support for Hillary our west and in Northern and central IL for Hillary. I'm from IL, so more familiar with demo here, and the massive problems on Election Day that people don't like to talk about.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
8. Exit Polls and Election results are two different things
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:15 PM
May 2016

The exit polls favored Sanders 56 to Clinton 44. If there is a big difference between the exit polls and the final election results, we need to be asking why. Until the advent of electronic voting, exit polls were remarkable reliable and used by news outlets all the time.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
13. Doesn't Indiana have early voting?
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:19 PM
May 2016

That was a big reason for the difference in exit polls and final results in Arizona.

Clinton won huge in the early voting, Sanders won the day of election voting, where exit polls happen.



If Indiana has early voting, exit polls are going to miss a large number of voters, and be very unreliable

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
29. Since Indiana has early voting, and sounds like it was used extensively
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

Exit Polls are worthless there.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
50. Not at all, unless one assumes that early voters differ widely from regular voters.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:51 PM
May 2016

I've never seen any evidence to support this. Do you know of any?

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
56. In Arizona yes
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

Early voters tend to be older and that was Hillary's demographic

Hillary had a large lead when the early votes were released

Bernie Won the day of voting votes

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
57. Got a source? Here's one that contradicts your assertion ...
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:06 PM
May 2016
http://www.trivalleycentral.com/casa_grande_dispatch/area_news/early-voting-in-arizona-favored-democrats/article_5699d734-7d6e-11e4-be1a-1fd8fccaaeb8.html

“The early voters are going to tend to be younger ..."

...

“The other (factor) would perhaps relate to the fact that older people are more likely to be retired people, and younger people, the people who vote early, are probably more working-class people, and so they take advantage of just filling out their ballot and getting it sent in. There’s no particular reason for older people to do it early.”
 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
65. Since I lived here and watching results come in
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016

That article from November 2012 has nothing to do with what happened in our primary

greymouse

(872 posts)
67. exactly, Jim
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:44 PM
May 2016

A big difference is a sign of fraud. Not that the Clinton folks would commit fraud, or anything, goodness me, no.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
72. Yes. The 2001 federal elections law, HAVA, which authorized voting machines and required
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

states to implement electronic voter registration databases seems to have occurred in tandem with that change. Coincidental? Hard to believe.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
3. exit polls are prone to statistical error, you know.
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:08 PM
May 2016

hence why they USUALLY predict the winner, not always.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
5. remember Bernie was leading 51-49 in Illinois and Missouri in the CNN morning/afternoon exits
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:09 PM
May 2016

lets see how it plays out! its only a 4 point miss from the other midwestern states surrounding them

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
19. Exit polls don't count early and absentee voters. And those voters tend to be older voters,
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:23 PM
May 2016

who have been voting strongly for Hillary.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. Exit polls are only accurate if you spend enough money to do them right and you adjust the data.
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:47 PM
May 2016

They are a sample and sampling method and rigor determine their inherent margin of error. There is no substitute for sampling everyone = the voting.

Bodych

(133 posts)
7. "Exit polls, of course, can often miss the mark by wide margins..."
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:13 PM
May 2016

ABSOLUTELY the exception rather than the rule in other countries.

Only in the USA do exit polls miss the mark by wide margins. That's because of election fraud CODE written right into the electronic voting machines and tabulators.

HuffPo is misleading Americans by stating this, making it seem matter-of-fact that exit polls are garbage science.

Hell, I see comments right here, people who ought to know better by the way, reinforcing this false premise.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
16. Do other countries have early voting?
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:21 PM
May 2016

Exit polls are WORTHLESS in states with widespread early voting.




that is not to discount any election fraud that happens, but in a state like Arizona where 30-50% of electorate votes early, it can account for the wide variation.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
20. Do those other countries have a month of early/absentee voting? Early voters here aren't
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:25 PM
May 2016

counted in exit polls, and they tend to be heavily older voters. And in this election, older voters have strongly supported Hillary

Bodych

(133 posts)
54. USA: Pollsters factor in early voters
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

In states that have a known history of heavy early voting, pollsters do telephone surveys before the election.

They factor those numbers into exit polls.

With your heightened knowledge of this junk science known as "exit polling", perhaps you should direct your pointed observations to the news services that employ exit pollsters, such as HuffPo, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, etc.

Tell them they're wasting good money on exit polling.

No need for you to tell this to pollsters doing republican exit polls in 2016, however: I've heard they're doing a pretty good job with those races.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
23. Do those other countries have a month of early/absentee voting? We have a primary
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:28 PM
May 2016

where one of the candidates gets many more young voters, and one gets many more seniors. And seniors are being undercounted in exit polls because they are more likely to vote early/absentee.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
37. As I've said, Nate Silver said that despite the polls, Indiana looked good for Bernie
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

because of Demographics (few black voters) and the open primary.

However, even in the event that he won by as much as 15% (which he won't), that would only increase the number of pledged delegates she needed in the rest of the primaries (to reach half) from 34% to 35%.

So that is why she didn't spend any money in the state on ads. Her money is better spent elsewhere.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
75. Does Bernie's pay for his?
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

That Vermont ponzi scheme is under FBI investigation and he was a big supporter of the key players.

And for some reason he's not willing to answer questions about this.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
77. There are many. Here are a couple:
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:17 PM
May 2016
http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2016/04/14/how-an-alleged-ski-resort-ponzi-scheme-exploited-a-growth-plan-once-championed-by-bernie-sanders/#7dbebd2cb172

“The most popular sport in America is complaining about the federal government. What you are seeing here is a marriage and partnership between private business and federal, state and local government.” Those were Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders’ words in October 2012 when it came to a once-glittering economic development plan to revive the northeast part of his state.

A bi-partisan partnership between private business and federal, state and local government to be sure, but also allegedly a sophisticated multi-million dollar Ponzi scheme, according to a 52-count complaint unsealed Thursday by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The alleged Ponzi scheme ties an EB-5 investor program championed by Jay Peak Ski Resort, a popular 78-trail mountain in Vermont’s Northeast Kingdom, which raised over $350 million from foreign investors to expand its facilities and create local jobs. The EB-5 program, supported by the State of Vermont and both of its Senators, Bernie Sanders and Patrick Leahy, offered foreigners the opportunity to invest between $500,000 to $1 million in developments that projected returns of 2% to 6% and a pathway to U.S. citizenship within two years.

SNIP

For years, Jay Peak was championed by Democratic and Republican officials including Senators Sanders and Patrick Leahy, in addition to Governors Jim Douglas and Peter Shumlin, as a smart marriage between foreign investors, business and government. Senator Leahy is one of the strongest supporters of EB-5 programs in Washington. Shumlin, at great lengths, highlighted the Jay Peak program in his gubernatorial address after re-election in 2013.

The Sanders campaign did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment, nor did Stenger.

AND ANOTHER:

http://digital.vpr.net/post/bernie-sanders-wont-talk-about-alleged-corporate-corruption-his-home-state#stream/0

Bernie Sanders Won't Talk About Alleged Corporate Corruption In His Home State

Virtually every prominent Vermont politician condemned the alleged multimillion-dollar fraud in the Northeast Kingdom after federal authorities charged the developers last week, but Vermonters have yet to hear what Sen. Bernie Sanders thinks about it – or how he might vote on a key reform bill.

Sanders, a Democratic candidate for president, has been silent about the fraud allegations and the federal EB-5 program, even though he endorsed the EB-5-funded projects as an example of good government in the past.

Sen. Patrick Leahy said last week that he hopes Congress will help him pass a bill to reform the federal EB-5 program that allegedly allowed Jay Peak owner Ariel Quiros and CEO Bill Stenger to dupe hundreds of foreign investors out of millions of dollars.

Leahy said his bill would help prevent that kind of fraud, but Vermont's other senator hasn't weighed in about Leahy's bill or the fraud allegations that surfaced nearly a week ago.

After landing at the Burlington airport Tuesday evening, Sanders briefly addressed reporters about his loss in the New York primary, and he refused to answer any questions about the EB-5 issue.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
78. bernie is not named in the indictment or the focus of an on going fbi criminal
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:31 PM
May 2016

investigation

are you throwing leahy under the bus too?

as you know hc has hired the same criminal attorney she has used in the past....i am sure that must be personal money tho,hopefully not campaign funds

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
30. Other countries have much simpler elections than the US
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:40 PM
May 2016

HEre people vote on everything from what color the grass should be to who should be the vice-president of catching dogs. Other countries also have much shorter and less complex election campaigns. I grew up in a differnt country form the US and frankly I'm surprised the exit polls here are ever right given the complexities involved.

HeartoftheMidwest

(309 posts)
61. Properly executed exit polls....
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:16 PM
May 2016

...are the gold standard for detecting election fraud.
EXCEPT in the USA, where exit polls are sometimes later "adjusted" to coincide with..**cough** cough***....the vote tabulation.
When exit polls showed John Kerry winning massively in Ohio in 2004, and Rove's manipulation of the vote had Bush winning, the exit polls were adjusted to fit the final result. Can't have science getting in the way of politics.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
12. ITS TIGHTENING...HRC by 1 PERCENT
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:19 PM
May 2016

the last regular poll had them at 50-46 but the indy crossovers could tip the scale...

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
21. Rachel says they don't expect to win. And Nate Silver has also said
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

that despite what the polls have said, the demographics of the state (fewer African American voters) and the open primary would predict a Bernie win.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
15. Actual headline: "Exit Polls Show Big Bernie Sanders Lead In Indiana, But Hillary Leads Early"
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:21 PM
May 2016

Not sure if it changed since you looked at it, but that is the headline at your link right now.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. Hillary did really well with early voters
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:33 PM
May 2016

That might balance out Bernie's success with voters who voted today.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
58. margin call
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

7:21 PM CT

With 43% Precincts reporting, we are ready for a final margin call. We are calling Sanders 52.5% - Clinton 47.5% for Indiana.

- Virginia: Clinton 63% - Sanders 37% Call made with 11% reporting
- Vermont: Sanders 88% - Clinton 12% Call made with 10% reporting
- Georgia: Clinton 68% - Sanders 32% Call made with 16.5% reporting
- Oklahoma: Sanders 51% - Clinton 45% - Other 4% with 18.9% reporting
- Tennessee: Clinton 62% - Sanders 38% Call made with 20% reporting
- Alabama: Clinton 74% - Sanders 20% - Other 6%** Call made with 15% reporting
- Massachusetts: Clinton 51% - Sanders 49% Call made with 35% reporting
- Arkansas: Clinton 68% - Sanders 30% - Other 2% Call made with 10% reporting
- Texas: Clinton 64% - Sanders 36% - Other 1%** Call made with 10% reporting
- Colorado: Sanders 58% - Clinton 42% Call made with 17% reporting
- Minnesota: Sanders 59% - Clinton 41% Call made with 48% reporting
- Nebraska: Sanders 57% - Clinton 43% Caucus call made with 75% reporting (all reported at once)
- Louisiana: 74% Clinton, 20% Sanders. Call made with 19% reporting.
- Maine: 63% Sanders, 37% Clinton. Call made with 13% reporting.
- Michigan: 51% Sanders - 48% Clinton - 1% Other Call made with 21% Reporting.
- Mississippi: 84% Clinton - 15% Sanders - 1% Other Call made with 45% reporting (Michigan was too exciting)
- Florida: 66% Clinton - 32% Sanders - 2% Other Call made with 46% Reporting (waited for all polls to close)
- North Carolina: 57% Clinton - 40% Sanders - 3% Other Call made with 10% reporting
- Ohio: 60% Clinton - 38% Sanders - 2% Other Call made with 20% reporting
- Missouri: 51% Sanders - 48% Clinton - 1% Other call made with 16.2% Reporting.
- Illinois: 50.5% Clinton - 49% Sanders - .5% Other Call made with 73% reporting. (TOO CLOSE!)
- Arizona Dem: 62% Clinton - 37% Sanders - 1% Other call made with 9% reporting.
- Arizona Rep: 48% Trump- 24% Cruz- 14% Kasich call made with 10% reporting.
- Alaska 85% Sanders - 15% Clinton call made with 15% reporting.
- Washington 77% Sanders - 23% Clinton call made with 19% reporting.
- Wisconsin: 56.5% Sanders - 43.5% Clinton call made with 23% reporting.
- New York: Clinton 57% - Sanders 43%. Call made with 31% reporting.
- Delaware: Clinton 60% - Sanders 40%. Call made with 14% reporting.
- Rhode Island: Sanders 54% - Clinton 46%. Call made with 33% reporting.
- Pennsylvania: Clinton 57% - Sanders 42%. Call made with 19% reporting.
- Maryland: Clinton 66% - Sanders 32%. Call made with 11% reporting.
- Connecticut: Clinton 51% - Sanders 48%. Call made with 55% reporting.
- Indiana: Sanders 52.5% - Clinton 47.5%. Call made with 43% reporting.

Response to Cryptoad (Reply #38)

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
42. So he is up right now 52-48%
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:08 PM
May 2016

At what point does the fact that one candidate does better in open vs closed primaries become a point of interest/investigation?

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
44. What needs to be investigated?
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:14 PM
May 2016

I'm guessing that would include caucuses too?

Some states may want democrats and not independents or republicans picking their candidate.

Illinois has an open primary and Clinton won. Several states had an open primary and she won... So there's that.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
45. Clinton had the corp media playing her ads, cheerleading for her, dissing Bernie. She also had the
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

democratic party machine turning out the vote for her.

I read 35% of the absentee ballots were Democrat that are not in the exits.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
46. Unless he wins by 65% it doesn't mean jack sh*t.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:16 PM
May 2016

He will never catch up, and trying to convince SD with bullying and far out polls is laughable.

Response to big_dog (Original post)

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)
53. Hillary is responsible for everything that is bad!!11!!
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

Even things that aren't bad but some might consider these things to be bad.

wallyworld2

(375 posts)
59. Rafael drops out
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:12 PM
May 2016

BREAKING NEWS: TED CRUZ SUSPENDS PRESIDENTIAL BID
Texas senator drops out of race following major defeat by Trump in Indiana
http://www.foxnews.com/

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
60. Excuse me.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:12 PM
May 2016

Exit polls only miss by wide margins when the voting machines are fiddled-faddled with. Exit polls that haven't been fiddled-faddled with have, historically, been very accurate.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
70. Exit Polls Wrong Again
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:09 AM
May 2016

But the reality is they are never wrong. Only vote tallies are wrong through cheating and electronic vote hacking. Bernie won by 12% not 5%. Only exit polls show the truth.

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