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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:14 PM May 2016

Don’t look now, but Barack Obama is suddenly popular

Source: Washington Post

When the ball dropped in Times Square on Jan. 1 of this year, more than half of the country disapproved of the job that President Obama was doing, according to Gallup. That boded poorly for the Democrats over the course of the year; presidential approval correlates to both how his party fares in the presidential race (even if he's not on the ticket) but also to the results of Senate races. An unpopular Obama suggested a less popular whoever-was-about-to-win-the-Democratic-nomination.

But over the course of the year, Obama's approval numbers changed -- quickly, and a lot. In Gallup's most recent weekly average, Obama is at 51-45 -- the exact opposite of where he was on Jan. 1 and a 12-point swing since then. He's been at 50 percent or higher in every week since March 1, save one.

We looked at this shortly after Obama first hit the 50 percent mark, noting that his approval had been climbing pretty steadily for a few months. At that point, we speculated that it was probably linked to the campaign; after all, the last time he was above 50 percent, he'd been propelled there by his own reelection.

Looking at quarterly averages of Obama's approval, you can see how stark the improvement has been by party. Democrats have slowly looked at Obama more favorably since the beginning of 2015, but independents have begun to look at Obama much more favorably. After a sharp slide following his reelection, independents turned their opinions of Obama around at the beginning of 2014. Over the past year, that's escalated. And since ratings from Democrats and Republicans are more stable, that shift by independents moves the needle a lot.


Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/don%e2%80%99t-look-now-but-barack-obama-is-suddenly-popular/ar-BBtj9Ne?ocid=iehp



What is interesting is that his approval has gone up among all groups, even independents and Republicans, not just Democrats.
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Don’t look now, but Barack Obama is suddenly popular (Original Post) TomCADem May 2016 OP
Well, look at the options set to replace him Scootaloo May 2016 #1
bingo AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #5
Yes, the present is starting to look like it might soon be the good old days bhikkhu May 2016 #28
Yep, FOUR MORE YEARS! Best president we have had in at least 50! snooper2 May 2016 #61
Well, there's the candidates. mountain grammy May 2016 #2
Obama will get more retrospective respect than he did as President. andym May 2016 #3
IF a president's ratings are up on election day, his party wins! Hortensis May 2016 #63
Obama likes Bernie RobertEarl May 2016 #4
He has always been popular in my book. sheshe2 May 2016 #6
I am with you! onecent May 2016 #57
Obama will be like Truman... First Speaker May 2016 #7
President Barack Obama has always been a Democrat in his adult life. onehandle May 2016 #8
2 out of 3 aint bad I suppose. mwooldri May 2016 #33
She was a Democrat by the time she was 21. onehandle May 2016 #50
TPP Omaha Steve May 2016 #9
But twisted arms for TPP and heritage care. Doctor_J May 2016 #13
That really burned my ass Populist_Prole May 2016 #24
Steve, do me a favor show me all the links.... sheshe2 May 2016 #26
when Obama first took office, the first week republicans asked him to shelve 'obamacare plan' for a Sunlei May 2016 #54
Still waiting for him to put on his comfy shoes Omaha Steve May 2016 #55
wait until he's done and free. Comfy shoes are in the closet with his favorite comfy 'mom jeans' Sunlei May 2016 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #60
He's at the top of the list of best presidents in my lifetime Fresh_Start May 2016 #10
I'll go with JFK Omaha Steve May 2016 #14
Obama hands down WINS! sheshe2 May 2016 #27
When were you born? Omaha Steve May 2016 #41
He didn't back public option or single payer Omaha Steve May 2016 #42
JFK Fresh_Start May 2016 #47
Cuban missle crisis Omaha Steve May 2016 #48
All I'm saying is its a mixed bag with any president Fresh_Start May 2016 #49
Best President of my lifetime without question alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #20
I have a great fondest for President Carter Fresh_Start May 2016 #45
there's a very simple reason for it - trump certainot May 2016 #11
People look ahead to having Clinton or trump next year and suddenly Moderate Republican Doctor_J May 2016 #12
President Obama is a Democrat TomCADem May 2016 #17
President Obama says president Obama is a moderate republican, and his record attests to Doctor_J May 2016 #18
Got it. I Guess We Should Then Refer To Bernie as a True Republican... TomCADem May 2016 #19
President Obama is a Democrat. truthisfreedom May 2016 #23
No... sheshe2 May 2016 #29
Of course, 'moderate republicans' voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act and the EPA. pampango May 2016 #40
Moderate Republican looks good? mwooldri May 2016 #35
You should go to some anti-Democrat website and leave Democrats alone Democat May 2016 #36
Going to miss him. gwheezie May 2016 #15
Huge hugs to you. sheshe2 May 2016 #30
+9001. mwooldri May 2016 #34
I wish he could serve another term... ailsagirl May 2016 #16
A Great American. A Great President. bluestateguy May 2016 #21
Viewed favorably by the majority IRL The Polack MSgt May 2016 #22
I think I love you! sheshe2 May 2016 #31
The people bashing Obama are not Democrats Democat May 2016 #37
Or old disaffected hippies GulfCoast66 May 2016 #43
Maybe the reason for this is pressbox69 May 2016 #25
Maybe it's because... Crash2Parties May 2016 #32
Obama could have been less compromising to Republicans early on Democat May 2016 #38
Barack Obama has always been popular alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #39
People are comparing Hillary and Trump to him madville May 2016 #44
By November he'll probably be in the 90's. I hate to see him go. Vinca May 2016 #46
Glad President Obama is getting the respect he has earned. It is a good sign for the GE, too. greatlaurel May 2016 #51
Always Loved President Obama, he will be a great benefit to our D Nominee & a BANE++ on Rs. Sunlei May 2016 #52
Because he is a great human being, unlike Hillary and Drumpf. Odin2005 May 2016 #53
Is it any wonder? BlueStater May 2016 #58
Congrats to Pres. Obama--and good news for Hillary riversedge May 2016 #59
DU isn't going to like reading this... Blue_Tires May 2016 #62

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
28. Yes, the present is starting to look like it might soon be the good old days
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:31 AM
May 2016

though I'm not particularly worried about a Clinton presidency, the idea of an obligatory change doesn't really come with much hope for better lately.

andym

(5,444 posts)
3. Obama will get more retrospective respect than he did as President.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:21 PM
May 2016

Although blocked by the GOP congress after his first two years, he managed to guide the nation through a rough time with aplomb.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
63. IF a president's ratings are up on election day, his party wins!
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

It's actually just a usually wins, but apparently the approval rating of a sitting president's is the single largest individual factor in which party wins in an election. One of our presidents' biggest tasks is getting that approval rating up in the last year, when they're supposedly "lame ducks," a role Obama has declined.

The Republican leadership, members of the Kochtopus, etc., are going to be praying for disasters they can attack Obama on between now and November 8. It also makes things like approving his SCOTUS nominee even more problematic since it is desperately important to them to block anything and everything that could raise Obama's approval rating.

Sorry, just read back and realized I jumped from thinking from your "retrospective" to "it's not over until it's over." You are so right. I often think about that when considering what he's accomplished, and I'm genuinely looking forward to the view back.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
33. 2 out of 3 aint bad I suppose.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:50 AM
May 2016

In 1963, the president of Wellesley College's Young Republicans was Hillary Rodham. It was the Civil Rights movement that changed her.

Barack Hussein Obama II, President of the United States of America, has to all public knowledge been a Democrat.

I don't know you so I'll take your word on it.

I have not been a lifelong member of the Democratic Party. I've been a card carrying member of the Liberal Democrats in England and Scotland. Yet parties can go sour... mine went into coalition government with the £#!*ing Tories.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
50. She was a Democrat by the time she was 21.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

As a girl she participated as a non-voting minor in an organization for a short while, because her family wanted her to.

Elizabeth Warren was a Republican until her mid to late 40s. Voted for Ronald Reagan.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
24. That really burned my ass
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:03 AM
May 2016

I was glad to have my part in him eclipsing the Bush crime family regime and knew he had an uphill battle. Despite that, I never went for the "3 dimensional chess" bullshit; being too cynical: not by formation, but experience.

Fast forward: It's more than disheartening to see the only time he really used the bully pulpit with any visceral force was to push the TPP. In paralell, it was/is THE ONLY time he seeked....and got...support from the GOP that heretofore opposed him.

What does THAT tell us?

( wrong answer is 4-dimensional chess )

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
26. Steve, do me a favor show me all the links....
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:28 AM
May 2016

that show he had the votes for that in the Congress or Senate.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
54. when Obama first took office, the first week republicans asked him to shelve 'obamacare plan' for a
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:41 AM
May 2016

year and just focus on our economic disaster. Obama refused to wait for Obamacare plan and pushed on with Healthcare plans and Americas economic disaster at the same time.

Single payer, public option and medicare for aged 50 and up were all mentioned/discussed with republicans trying to drag everything out as long as possible.

If Obama had waited that year like republicans tried, we wouldn't have anything today.

Yes, we still need single payer or medicare for all, a NOT for profit healthcare system.

Wouldn't you agree today with insurance not able to kick-out and/or refuse people is better then what it was when Obama took office?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
56. wait until he's done and free. Comfy shoes are in the closet with his favorite comfy 'mom jeans'
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:17 AM
May 2016

He's been working on 'trade-treaty' with Asian-pacific countries for almost 7 years. Along with the other TPP signer Countries like Australia and Canada.

Ground-trade treaties "contracts with countries" like the TPP these days fade away to internet based commerce to move 'retail consumer products' that's where our 'trade' future will be based. Other then perishable agriculture. (anything needed fresh that can't be frozen/chemically stored/packaged in non-O2- for shipments)

Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #9)

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
10. He's at the top of the list of best presidents in my lifetime
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:36 PM
May 2016

excluding of course the time before I was aware of anything

Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
41. When were you born?
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:59 AM
May 2016

TTP.

Was willing to cut SS when he wasn't asked.

Didn't back Employee Free Choice Act.....

Grand bargain that..

Well you get the idea.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
47. JFK
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:25 AM
May 2016

When liberal Democrats pressed him to promote progressive social programs, he would often point out that he had not won a mandate and remind them that he first had to be reelected.

Kennedy had campaigned on the slogan of “getting America moving again” (which the Nixon campaign staff had privately derided as the peristalsis plan). But, recovery from the 1958 recession had been very sluggish and unemployment remained perilously high—6.8% just after he took office. The Council of Economic Advisers urged him to attack unemployment with New Deal style spending but the president was worried that a large deficit ($7 billion) would be politically untenable in 1964.

Kennedy had won the battle but lost the war—the price increase was canceled but U.S. Steel also announced that its new plants would be built abroad.

The president finally decided that only a bold domestic program, including tax cuts, would restore his political momentum. Declaring that the absence of recession is not tantamount to economic growth, the president proposed in 1963 to cut income taxes from a range of 20-91% to 14-65% He also proposed a cut in the corporate tax rate from 52% to 47%.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
49. All I'm saying is its a mixed bag with any president
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:32 AM
May 2016

and Obama had much less to work with than JFK.
But in truth I was a toddler when JFK was elected...so I don't any any real recollection of his administration...other than remembering crying when we heard he was killed.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. there's a very simple reason for it - trump
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:42 PM
May 2016

trump's rise has ensured that 1200 radio stations are more focused on the republican problems of unity and excusing trump than on swiftboating dems and attacking obama.

here's the math:

at a cheap $1000/hr x 15hrs/day x 1200 stations, rw talk radio is worth 4.68 BIL$/ year or 390MIL$ /month FREE for coordinated global warming denial, pro republican wall st think tank propaganda, free market deregulation bullshit, swiftboating, and the hate and fear used to get people to vote republican.

instead of being dedicated to driving down obama's numbers that giant PSYOPS has been diverted to republican problems.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
12. People look ahead to having Clinton or trump next year and suddenly Moderate Republican
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:52 PM
May 2016

looks pretty damn good.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
17. President Obama is a Democrat
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:02 AM
May 2016

If he was a Republican, he would never have been able to run in the primaries. That is why Bernie recently had to register as a Democrat.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
18. President Obama says president Obama is a moderate republican, and his record attests to
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:04 AM
May 2016

that fact. And I am too respectful to contradict him.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
19. Got it. I Guess We Should Then Refer To Bernie as a True Republican...
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:22 AM
May 2016

...by that score. After all, at one time, Republicans were the progressives and the party of the inner city who fought against slavery. Democrats were the party of the South and slavery. Woodrow Wilson was a racist that might even make Donald Trump blush.

Yes, Bernie Sanders has expressed his opposition to free trade deals, but long before Sanders, there was Republican President Herbert Hoover who won the Presidency by campaigning against predatory free trade:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%E2%80%93Hawley_Tariff_Act

As the global economy entered the first stages of the Great Depression in late 1929, the USA's main goal emerged to protect American jobs and farmers from foreign competition. Reed Smoot championed another tariff increase within the USA in 1929, which became the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Bill. In his memoirs, Smoot made it abundantly clear:

"The world is paying for its ruthless destruction of life and property in the World War and for its failure to adjust purchasing power to productive capacity during the industrial revolution of the decade following the war."[9]

Smoot was a Republican from Utah and chairman of the Senate Finance Committee. Willis C. Hawley, a Republican from Oregon, was chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.

When campaigning for president during 1928, one of Herbert Hoover's promises to help beleaguered farmers had been to increase tariffs of agricultural products. Hoover won, and Republicans maintained comfortable majorities in the House and the Senate during 1928. Hoover then asked Congress for an increase of tariff rates for agricultural goods and a decrease of rates for industrial goods.


In other words, perhaps rather than trying to take back the Democratic Party and return it to its roots, Bernie should have actually ran as a Republican to return the party to its free trade opposing, anti-slavery roots. While Bernie's talks a big game in terms of being anti-free trade, Republicans walked the walk with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff bill.


truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
23. President Obama is a Democrat.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:00 AM
May 2016

And he can attest to that fact, being that he ran as a member of the Democratic Party for his entire career and won the Presidential Elections twice as a member of said party. Your definition is beyond absurd.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
40. Of course, 'moderate republicans' voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act and the EPA.
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:44 AM
May 2016

They don't exist anymore.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
35. Moderate Republican looks good?
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:02 AM
May 2016

In my eyes Hillary Clinton is a moderate Republican of sorts.... byt then Bernie to me is a moderate Democrat. Trump and Benito Mussolini in my eyes have a lot in common.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
36. You should go to some anti-Democrat website and leave Democrats alone
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:04 AM
May 2016

Obama has done more for Americans and the Democratic party than you could ever hope to do in your life.

This place has been taken over by people who have nothing to say except bashing Democrats.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
15. Going to miss him.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:58 PM
May 2016

He did a good job when we really needed a good president. He pulled the world back from the brink.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
34. +9001.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:52 AM
May 2016

Some jobs need term limits. The President of the United States could do with having a third term option. It wasn't until FDR that term limits were put into the constitution.

The Polack MSgt

(13,190 posts)
22. Viewed favorably by the majority IRL
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:52 AM
May 2016

Maybe not by a majority on this site tho.

Strange that a "Democratic" site needed to create a protected group for fans of one of the most successful Democratic Presdents ever.

But you're "fighting for the soul of the party"?
My ass you are.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
31. I think I love you!
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:35 AM
May 2016
Viewed favorably by the majority IRL

Maybe not by a majority on this site tho.

Strange that a "Democratic" site needed to create a protected group for fans of one of the most successful Democratic Presdents ever.

But you're "fighting for the soul of the party"?
My ass you are.




Thank you!

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
32. Maybe it's because...
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:45 AM
May 2016

- Many Democrats would rather vote for him instead of the assumed nominee?

- Because he has really loosened up in his last year or two and seems like a nice guy, the sort of chap you'd want to lead a nation?

- Because to most supportive people with a transgender loved one, he's going down in history as our Abe Lincoln?

On that last one, he truly has played a nearly eight year long game that even now is setting up masterfully for the final play.

About the only places he's failed miserably would be his Corporatism streak and the way he's been asleep at the wheel regarding voting rights.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
38. Obama could have been less compromising to Republicans early on
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:08 AM
May 2016

He believed too much that Republicans would make a fair compromise on many issues in the first few years.

He is not perfect, but we Democrats will miss him when he's gone.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
39. Barack Obama has always been popular
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:16 AM
May 2016

These same shitheads who claimed George W Bush was a "popular wartime President" when his approvals were in the low 30's turned around and pretended that Obama (whose approvals never dropped below 40%) was "unpopular."

madville

(7,412 posts)
44. People are comparing Hillary and Trump to him
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:11 AM
May 2016

Of course his numbers should go up. I would hope they would anyway in comparison to those two horrible candidates.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
46. By November he'll probably be in the 90's. I hate to see him go.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:24 AM
May 2016

Although I don't agree with him all the time, I dearly love the POTUS and will miss him very much.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
51. Glad President Obama is getting the respect he has earned. It is a good sign for the GE, too.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:56 AM
May 2016

His support for Hillary Clinton in the GE will help and should help in getting back some seats in Congress.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
52. Always Loved President Obama, he will be a great benefit to our D Nominee & a BANE++ on Rs.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

wait and see

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
53. Because he is a great human being, unlike Hillary and Drumpf.
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:29 AM
May 2016

I have disagreed with him on a lot of things, I think he has been too "centrist", but he has been a good president, the best in my 30 years of life. His foreign policy has been extremely good, with the only significant mistake being Libya.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
58. Is it any wonder?
Sun May 22, 2016, 05:38 PM
May 2016

People are comparing him to the two people most likeliest to replace him, both horrible candidates who would take this country backwards, and suddenly Barry doesn't seem so bad. If Americans had the option, they'd probably keep Obama in for a third term rather than be stuck with those two sorry excuses for candidates.

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