Fuck you, Ken!

And fuck any one reading who's having a sad for their old brother in arms!

Investigating a sexual scandal enabled him to get this job and now not investigating a sexual scandal causes him to lose the job. I'd call that poetic justice.

Now all he needs for a hat trick is to have an affair with a young staffer. Or, maybe, just have an affair with a young staffer be exposed.

You would think that Ken Starr has the perfect background to investigate sexual matters. I guess his $40M worth of experience (at taxpayers' expense) was only good for investigating consensual sex.

And welcome to DU!

Hey Starr, how do you like it when the shoe is on the other foot?

What goes around, comes around.

But can you enlighten me on what you mean by "what goes around, comes around" in this situation?

It didn't realize it was the same person. I assume it's a common name.

they grind exceedingly fine.

not just unemployed.

And I am sure he is getting several hundred thousand a year at least.

whether or not they pay him another dime.

Pulled down $400k as prez at BU.

I'm sure a lot of people back in the day thought Ken Starr was an upright and moral man through and through because of his persecution of Bill Clinton over a BJ.

Turns out Starr was no better than Gingrich, Hastert, and the rest -- the main goal being to bring down an effective Democratic president by any means, and damn the consequences to the country.

All the keyboard warriors out there smarming about the Clintons and all the supposed questions their conduct over a lifetime has raised should comfort themselves with this simple truth: IOKYAR.

I guess he's shilling for a new job. Maybe the Clinton Foundation is hiring.

good bye ass wipe.

Non-consensual sex? Not so much, eh?

Resmuglicans like the use of force -- a lot.

firing the coach.


Apparently, this story illuminates the relative value of university presidents to football coaches in the university system.

University presidents are seemingly just cheap scapegoats.

was fired several years ago and yet he was the highest paid person for the University last year.

and put Bill Clinton in charge of it!

Sofa King righteous Go sofa kings.

"It's none of your damn business!"

but, anyway-

As others have said, KARMA.

Yo, Kenny, how does it feel to get a taste of your own medicine?

When Starr was investigating Clinton, no sexually charged wink was ignored. But when it comes to investigating his own football team, rapists are ignored.

The irony!

The hypocrisy!

He's always up to his eyebrows in other's sex exploits. Either writing entire down-to-the-minutest-detail treatises about them or plain ignoring them

I attended Baylor in the 1990's, have 2 degrees from the school and find this firing to be both delicious in its irony and deserving in its execution. Baylor has grown so fast in the last 10 years that not paying attention to the details might be excused...if those details weren't the health, welfare and security of the female students. Keep in mind that Baylor has a much higher enrollment of females 58%, than males. The lack of response by the Baylor administration to rape allegations is shocking, firing the leader is an excellent start, but, lets see where else this goes and more importantly, what is ultimately done to address the safety concerns of women on campus.

Baylor is high on the list of research universities. They have many important national-level facilities.

Now, I can understand how that neoliberal bum, Larry Summers, wound up as president of Harvard. The guy was a world-class economist and held posts like Sec. of Treasury.

But, Ken F-ing Starr, whose only credential was as a prurient shit-stirrer and tool of Newt Gingrich, how does he wind up president of a world class university?

It is because universities are now run like businesses, because presidents are now CEOs, whose major job is fund raising?

I am glad he got his assed tossed; but how did he get appointed in the first place?

Does anyone know?

No one mentioned this aspect of pharisaic hypocrisy: Starr is a preacher's kid, and Baylor is the largest Baptist school in the world. Starr was beyond relentless in going after Clinton's peccadillo. One of the few Republican rules--double standard is not to be mentioned.

this just out ... today ....



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/us/politics/ken-starr-impeachment-bill-clinton.html?action=click&contentCollection=The%20Upshot&module=Trending&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&pgtype=article

So, I almost never post here (I had an old account 5 or 6 years ago), but I often read the forum and this post and the replies to it compelled me to respond. I know a lot of people are celebrating Ken Starr getting a karma slap, and honestly it couldn't happen to a more deserving guy, but judging by most of the replies I think a lot of people don't realize that there is a bigger problem at Baylor. Ken Starr is sleaze and absolutely deserves to be fired, but this move is basically a cover for the university and the head football coach Art Briles.

Baylor has sold their soul to the Gods of football. I love college football and have been a fan my whole life, but the sport is out of control. Baylor was a door mat for years until they brought Briles on board. He's had incredible success and is without question one of the best coaches in the game. Unfortunately, he's one of many coaches who will stoop to any level to win. In 2013 he brought in a very talented transfer DE Sam Ukwuachu from Boise St. Ukwuachu was "transferring" because he'd been dismissed from the Boise St program for "unspecified violation of team rules". Later it came out that these violations had to do with extremely disturbing domestic violence incidents against his girlfriend at the time. Baylor and Briles claim that Boise St. did not appraise them of the situation, claims that then Boise St head coach Chris Peterson strongly denied. Regardless, one would think that if you're taking on a player who has been dismissed for behavioral problems, you would do your due diligence to find out what those problems are.

Basically, the whole thing stank and within a few months of arriving at Baylor Ukwuachu sexually assaulted a member of Baylor's women's soccer team. In 2014, when questions arose as to why Ukwuachu was not playing for Baylor, the teams defensive coordinator responded that junior DE Sam Ukwuachu, has "some issues" to deal with and "Will not practice for awhile." In the end he never got the chance and was convicted in 2015.

This is just one incident. I believe at last count the number of Baylor football players involved in sexual assault cases during Briles short tenure sits at 5. I'm not writing a novel, so I want go into all the gory details but the football team, university, and the local law enforcement's response to these incidents has been described as at best inadequate and at worst an active cover-up. In short, Baylor really wants to win football games and garner all the money and exposure that comes with it. If that means a few people get raped along the way, well....

My point is, Starr deserves to be fired but I doubt it will change anything. Baylor has sold their soul and their football program is out of control. Until those in power fire Briles and move aggressively to bring the cesspool that is Baylor football to heel, nothing is going to change. Starr's firing is only meant to appease the masses and get the media spotlight off their backs. If you really want to see change in Waco don't be distracted by the fall guy, put pressure on the university. That's the only thing that will stop this crap.

I would think the coaches would be as responsible (or more, really) than the President of the university when it comes to the behavior of players.

Yet I would bet that none of those people directly responsible, not the players or the coaches, will ever be punished. They throw people a bone in the form of Ken Starr and that will be the end of it.