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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:47 PM May 2016

Reboot: Adidas to make shoes in Germany again – but using robots

Source: The Guardian

Adidas, the German maker of sportswear and equipment, has announced it will start marketing its first series of shoes manufactured by robots in Germany from 2017.

More than 20 years after Adidas ceased production activities in Germany and moved them to Asia, chief executive Herbert Hainer unveiled to the press the group’s new prototype “Speedfactory” in Ansbach, southern Germany.

The 4,600-square-metre plant is still being built but Adidas opened it to the press, pledging to automate shoe production – which is currently done mostly by hand in Asia – and enable the shoes to be made more quickly and closer to its sales outlets.

The factory will deliver a first test set of around 500 pairs of shoes from the third quarter of 2016. Large-scale production will begin in 2017 and Adidas was planning a second “Speed Factory” in the United States in the same year, said Hainer.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/25/adidas-to-sell-robot-made-shoes-from-2017

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Reboot: Adidas to make shoes in Germany again – but using robots (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III May 2016 OP
I'm torn over this issue... Javaman May 2016 #1
Do you like New Balance? IronLionZion May 2016 #4
I love New Balance, but the issue is the high arch. Javaman May 2016 #13
I only buy american made New Balance but they smell like cat urine after a few months Demonaut May 2016 #15
Dude Baking Soda is like less than a buck a box Monk06 May 2016 #20
it's not my feet, it's the adhesive they use or some other material Demonaut May 2016 #23
Sounds like the shoe is out gassng ammonia That's the problem with polyvinyl synthetics I guass. Monk06 May 2016 #25
There are also charcoal odor eating solutions IronLionZion May 2016 #22
Asics reek! truthisfreedom May 2016 #11
I only use Asics for running. Javaman May 2016 #14
Stop blaming the shoe You need orthotics All runners I have known pronate or have arch issues Monk06 May 2016 #19
Arm and Hammer is your friend Monk06 May 2016 #21
Thus eliminating the labor controversy by eliminating labor rurallib May 2016 #2
There will always be jobs. davidthegnome May 2016 #6
Who's going to sell to the robots? muntrv May 2016 #3
Trump AntiBank May 2016 #5
The electric company...nt Jesus Malverde May 2016 #17
There is no choice. This is where the world is, and is going. We no longer jtuck004 May 2016 #7
Who will buy zentrum May 2016 #8
The men employed to fix the robots will have jobs. EL34x4 May 2016 #27
So, I think you zentrum May 2016 #29
I like the style, but not sure I'd want to run in them... FailureToCommunicate May 2016 #9
If they were plastic and flexible they'd be flash! kimbutgar May 2016 #10
In the Star Wars movies alcina May 2016 #12
Healers are probably in there, too. /nt trudyco May 2016 #16
automate the medical profession Jesus Malverde May 2016 #18
I suppose the Star Trek future is one of leisure EL34x4 May 2016 #28
Adidas is German? Who knew? Blue_Tires May 2016 #24
Onshoring has become even worse than offshoring scscholar May 2016 #26

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
1. I'm torn over this issue...
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:57 PM
May 2016

Once upon a time, as a competitive runner, I swore by Adidas shoes. (at that time there where made in West Germany. Yeah I'm old).

when they moved their operations overseas, the quality of their shoe dropped. I needed a really high arch, and oddly, the design changed and so did the arch.

I had to go with another company, Asics.

while no longer in the front pack and have lots knee problems, I'm willing to give them a try again.

but again, while made in Germany, they are now made by robots.

so I don't know what to do.

Germany by and large has a pretty good labor/worker reputation.

And since Adidas hadn't made shoes in Germany in quite sometime, are they technically aren't putting anyone out of work in Germany.

I have to think on this one for a while.

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
13. I love New Balance, but the issue is the high arch.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:25 PM
May 2016

I have needle thin feet with a high arch.

I have trouble finding that in a New Balance running shoe.

I do wear their cross trainers though.

Demonaut

(8,920 posts)
15. I only buy american made New Balance but they smell like cat urine after a few months
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:15 AM
May 2016

common issue it seems, it get worse after washing
not good in a closed environment like a car

Demonaut

(8,920 posts)
23. it's not my feet, it's the adhesive they use or some other material
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

I've washed them multiple times and it worsens, the smell comes from outside the shoe and well as from the inside
baking soda will not help that

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
25. Sounds like the shoe is out gassng ammonia That's the problem with polyvinyl synthetics I guass.
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

I prefer kordura and nylon in sport shoes But these composite leather materials used in couches, clothing and shoes make be suspicious

They break down very quickly

Plus there is the Chinese factor The Chinese are not above using substandard and or toxic materials in their products. I don't even trust their food products

IronLionZion

(45,471 posts)
22. There are also charcoal odor eating solutions
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:38 AM
May 2016

made to fit inside shoes. Shoes need to air out. I wouldn't keep them in the car.

truthisfreedom

(23,149 posts)
11. Asics reek!
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:14 PM
May 2016

I've never had a pair of tennies begin to reek as fast as my latest Asics. Just terrifying. I don't normally have stinky feet, either!

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
14. I only use Asics for running.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:26 PM
May 2016

As I wrote to the other poster, I need the high arch.

I have weird narrow high arched feet.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
19. Stop blaming the shoe You need orthotics All runners I have known pronate or have arch issues
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:51 AM
May 2016

Hell even serious amateur skiiers use orthotics

A buddy of mine boosted his resume by leaning how to carve custom orthotics

rurallib

(62,431 posts)
2. Thus eliminating the labor controversy by eliminating labor
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

Bet there are businesses salivating at the prospect.

Question is then who do they sell the shoes to if no one has a job.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
6. There will always be jobs.
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

The question is, will any of those remaining pay well enough for anyone to buy Adidas? Or Nikes? Or any of the other name brand stuff? Seems to me, that these types of products are much more available to the middle to well to do than to the working class. My last pair of sneakers I got for twenty bucks at a Kmart - lasted me three years.

Somehow, I suspect that automating this part of the process isn't going to reduce cost a great deal - if at all. Still, I've suspected for a long time that this sort of thing was coming. I expect to hear a lot more companies doing this with their products in the near future.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
7. There is no choice. This is where the world is, and is going. We no longer
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

have the world that we blew up that we can now profit from rebuilding.That's done.

We either manage this, or die,

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
29. So, I think you
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:10 PM
May 2016

…..mean "people employed"—because it could be women too, right?

But over time, ti will just be cheaper to repair robots with robots or replace worn robots with new ones, robotically made. Maybe even 3-D printed robots. Yes, somewhere you'll need a human being, but human beings are so messy—they need health care, go on strike, have families, get preggers. Why keep them?

It seems like a relentless compulsive drive by the 1% to just pursue immediate profit no matter the consequences. Even for themselves.

alcina

(602 posts)
12. In the Star Wars movies
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:57 PM
May 2016

Robots seem to do a lot of the work. I haven't seen one of those films in some time, but as I recall, most of the humans were employed as one of the following:

1. Military/security personnel
2. Smuggler
3. Scavenger/Trader
4. Politician (limited opportunities)
5. Bar owner
6. Musician
7. Freedom fighter (not really a paying job)
8. Royal handmaid

I think the robots even built themselves -- or built other robots. So no jobs there, either.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
18. automate the medical profession
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:26 AM
May 2016

And put them out of business, the medical industrial complex is one ripe cherry waiting to be disrupted. Much of what physicians do is interpret lab results and other data that interpreted by AI will be much more efficient at providing positive health outcomes than the compomised physicians who are focused on promoting the latest phama products.

Technology will automate 80% of what doctors do...
http://fortune.com/2012/12/04/technology-will-replace-80-of-what-doctors-do/

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
28. I suppose the Star Trek future is one of leisure
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

And scientific exploration --a necessity as we will eventually need a new place to live.

The reality for our future is one where there will be billions of people who are no longer employable and no longer needed. The future will consist of a small population of highly educated, skilled workers with ample free time to pursue greater knowledge and training.

How we get there from here won't be pretty but it's going to happen.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
26. Onshoring has become even worse than offshoring
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:27 PM
May 2016

I didn't think the GOPpers could surpass what their previous evil.

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