But... TPP?

Fuck it.

...something Bernie and his supporters don't understand.

The UAW understands though

Did you forget that you're supposed to be pretending she leans left?

Hillary herself called it the gold standard and has now backtracked as if it's bad. Shouldn't you be following your leader?

Her positions are always fluid. I can't stand it.

Here, I'll put this in terms that you'll understand, since Sanders supporters like to deflect on the crime bill issue:

It's like Sanders opposing the crime bill and then actually voting for it, even though he knew it was bad.

Except it's actually the opposite of that.

Hillary was initially for the idea in the early stages and chose to oppose it as more information became available.

The question you should be asking is: will she end up voting for a bill that she doesn't agree with, just like Sanders did?

Because we already know that Sanders did exactly that. Whether Clinton will or not remains to be seen.

And for two, she has a history of flip flopping.

With that data, I have my opinion.

Thanks for playing.

Come on... Show it off.

about a situation, and event, or a program when new information comes to light. We teach our kids to think critically as the situation changes. That is what Hillary did in this case.

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Thursday attempted to distance herself from the controversial 12-nation trade deal known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership. During her tenure as U.S. secretary of state, Clinton publicly promoted the pact 45 separate times -- but with her Democratic presidential rivals making opposition to the deal a centerpiece of their campaigns, Clinton now asserts she was never involved in the initiative.

"I did not work on TPP," she said after a meeting with leaders of labor unions who oppose the pact. "I advocated for a multinational trade agreement that would 'be the gold standard.' But that was the responsibility of the United States Trade Representative."

But at a congressional hearing in 2011, Clinton told lawmakers that "with respect to the TPP, although the State Department does not have the lead on this -- it is the United States Trade Representative -- we work closely with the USTR." Additionally, State Department cables reviewed by International Business Times show that her agency -- including her top aides -- were deeply involved in the diplomatic deliberations over the trade deal. The cables from 2009 and 2010, which were among a trove of documents disclosed by the website WikiLeaks, also show that the Clinton-run State Department advised the U.S. Trade Representative’s office on how to negotiate the deal with foreign government officials.

It's ok for him to change his mind after he VOTED for a bill and it passed, but it's not ok for Clinton to change her mind before the TPP is even finished?

Nah, that's not hypocritical in the least.

"Promoting" and "worked on" are not the same thing. That's why companies have R&D departments and marketing departments, no?

He didn't WRITE the crime bill, he voted on it because it contained provisions for abused women. Hillary was one of the principal architects on TPP. She didn't oppose it until she saw which way the wind was blowing.

Here AGAIN is Bernie talking about the crime bill. ETA - Hillary wasn't an elected official when the crime bill was voted on so for you to say "he voted for it and she didn't" is just flat-out false. One may be tempted to go so far as to say it's an out-and-out lie.

She didn't have total freedom to do as she wanted.

there will be a lot of politicians that refuse to do what he wants. Job or not.

Remember that Kentucky Clerk who defied the law she was bound to for a cause that she thought was right? She was wrong, but... She could do that, and she did.

Welcome to America! We started because we didn't like the laws of our former government! It's in our nature.

It's either a kick in the ass or a kick in the teeth.

Both of them don't have to be evil to have negatives either.

Obama wasn't perfect either although some might had thought so. But he was much better choice than a McCain or Romney.

Atleast with Clinton we have a longer record of her in varies government positions to go on to try and predict what she likely will and will not do but not so with Trump and I dont think the country can afford to gamble on him.

likely Bernie. Another worthless endorsement from labor that looks good on paper but doesn't materialize in reality

work they do--for example, canvassing, will not be for Bernie.


.........Williams last week confirmed that the union would not endorse Republican candidate Donald Trump, even though nearly 30 percent of members who participated in a survey for the presidential endorsement supported the billionaire. He declined to disclose the percentages for other candidates.

Williams, citing an August 2015 article from The Detroit News, said Trump “called his own destiny with us” by suggesting one way to stop automakers’ expansion to Mexico is by moving some production out of Michigan to lower-wage states.

The union announced the endorsement Wednesday prior to Williams’ appearance on MSNBC’s “Hardball with Chris Matthews” to discuss the 2016 election.

Other major unions to endorse Clinton include Service Employees International Union; American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees; American Teachers Federation; National Education Association; Laborers International Union of North America; and International Association of Machinists.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2016/05/25/uaw-expected-endorse-presidential-candidate-msnbc/84931620/

Another of her many well-deserved endorsements. They know she'll fight for them.

And the UAW has a turnout machine that drives Michigan and Ohio Republicans batshit insane.

No president has won their election without Ohio's electoral votes since Kennedy.

This will be a huge benefit to her in the GE.

I'm a UAW retiree and this is a big endorsement for Hillary.

And they get the day off on election day. It's in their contract.

Most excellent news!

Go Hillary!

....I'd have a more exact tally but I lost track a few months ago. And at the time I tallied those 16+ million, Sanders had barely cracked a half million.

This is GREAT news and further demonstrates who the best candidate is to work for labor and the middle class.

Biden added it in the Senate, Bernie lied

Here is a tape of Bernie talking about it in June of 1994, the bill was voted on in August.

This is great news. Fringe politics don't solve real world problems, in my opinion.

asked for unless their rank and file save them.

Excellent endorsement!

That tells how little the UAW is in sync with its rank-and-file.

endorsing anti union clinton.sorry but you can't support free trade deals and support unions.if she is able to beat trump she will totally flip on TPP.

Unions had change to support real pro-union candiate and they would rather support ms wall street.well they better never
complain about wall street and trade deals again.

I think her supporters are about half and half http://observer.com/2015/11/why-it-makes-no-sense-for-labor-unions-to-endorse-hillary-clinton/

I gave up on the idea that most union leadership gives a shit beyond keeping their jobs, much like most pols

the workers voting, or management? I suspect the latter, which makes it useless.

Wait a second. Wasn't it her hubby that approved NAFTA? You know. It was that policy that probably lost over one million U.S. jobs, and still affect our economy. Yeah, let's point this out as a strong point!!!.. OMG

Yeah, they know trade policies. WTF

who knew http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/campaign-stops/which-side-are-you-on-hillary.html?_r=0

the more likely dishonesty behind it.

it's all but meaningless (except to enamored Hillarians) unless their rank and file back it.

It s now fear politics... "We need to unify" rather than "We need to do the right thing"...

I noted that he didn't tell Matthews how the rank an file voted... only that Trump got 28℅ ... which tells me that Bernie probably got the most support...

I told them to pound sand as far as working for her election goes. I will not lift one finger; I will give no money, nor will I vote for her.

So the management makes the decision to endorse or not. The members are free to do what they want, even if there is massive pressure to go along.

Who else could they endorse?

to get tossed under the bus