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Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:11 PM Jun 2012

Richard Mourdock Claim That Employers Should Not Have To Cover Cancer Sparks Attacks

Source: Huffington Post

Democrats are hammering Indiana GOP Senate candidate Richard Mourdock over his statement that employers should not have to cover cancer in their insurance plans if they don't want to.

Mourdock, the state treasurer, argued in a newspaper interview last week that not only should employers not have to cover health care services that they oppose, such as contraception, but they also should be exempt from paying for anything they do not want to include, based on costs.

“Does that employer have the right to do it?" Mourdock told the News and Tribune, covering southern Indiana. "I would say yes they do if they want to keep their health care costs down but it also means it’s less likely you’re going to want to work here. If that employer wants to get the best employees coming in the door he’s going to offer the best insurance possible.”

On Monday Indiana Democrats have been highlighting the remark, noting that while cancer takes a huge toll in Indiana every year, it's extremely expensive to treat and that 60 percent of all personal bankruptcies are caused by medical bills.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/18/richard-mourdock-claim-cancer_n_1606005.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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Richard Mourdock Claim That Employers Should Not Have To Cover Cancer Sparks Attacks (Original Post) Galraedia Jun 2012 OP
Let's hope that neither he nor members of his family ever get cancer. hobbit709 Jun 2012 #1
I don't think I know ANY family that hasn't had someone who contracted cancer! LongTomH Jun 2012 #21
Wow, they keep getting more insane. sarcasmo Jun 2012 #2
Congratulations to Sen. Donnelly! KamaAina Jun 2012 #3
Hey you dick wad! Hotler Jun 2012 #4
Damn, what next? Laurian Jun 2012 #5
Good news...this idiot may now be defeated.. Stuart G Jun 2012 #6
best argument yet to get employers out of the health care business entirely. medicare for all! unblock Jun 2012 #7
I loathe employer provided health insurance Xipe Totec Jun 2012 #12
What you said. tanyev Jun 2012 #15
Good point. /nt Festivito Jun 2012 #27
Then the taxpayers of the state of Indiana should be allowed to cut back on Mourdock's Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #8
Republicans: Making life short, brutish, and nasty all over again deutsey Jun 2012 #9
Does the health insurance covering Indiana state employees,,,, benld74 Jun 2012 #10
Medicare for All then! Overseas Jun 2012 #11
Any national healthcare plan should be completely independent from one's employer.nt humblebum Jun 2012 #13
Good Gawd Canuckistanian Jun 2012 #14
Health care policies shouldn't be tied to employment in the first place madville Jun 2012 #16
Indiana Shame: again LittleGirl Jun 2012 #17
Fuck it, everyone is on their own! It will be like living in Dodge City BootinUp Jun 2012 #18
Richard Mourdock wants to be on the death committee that teabaggers ..... marble falls Jun 2012 #19
They should never let him live it down. Quantess Jun 2012 #20
Richard Mourdock, Death Panelist. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #22
I swear this sounds like Monty Python... Puzzler Jun 2012 #23
The answer to your statement Mourdork Smilo Jun 2012 #24
All those right wingers who want gov't out of healthcare Merlot Jun 2012 #25
ya but according to them azurnoir Jun 2012 #26
Where do people like this jerk come from? Javaman Jun 2012 #28
I guess they're seeking to change the point of insurance. Seems they'd sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #29
"What would be the point in buying insurance if it didn't cover major illnesses?" FiveGoodMen Jun 2012 #30
However, those elected leaders also determined what the insurance sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #31

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
21. I don't think I know ANY family that hasn't had someone who contracted cancer!
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 10:57 PM
Jun 2012

And I don't think I know a family that hasn't lost someone to cancer. Sad, but true!

Hotler

(11,421 posts)
4. Hey you dick wad!
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jun 2012

How about city and state tax payers shouldn't have to offer police and fire protection to businesses and corporations. Suck it dry you selfish shit stain.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
5. Damn, what next?
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jun 2012

Just when I think they can't be any worse, one comes up with a heartless statement like this. Has he never had a family member stricken with cancer? Just the diagnosis can be so devastating. To add another layer of stress by taking away insurance coverage is just plain cruel.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
6. Good news...this idiot may now be defeated..
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jun 2012

Before this our chances in Indiana were ok, but still much less than 50/50...now I bet we have improved that greatly...

unblock

(52,227 posts)
7. best argument yet to get employers out of the health care business entirely. medicare for all!
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jun 2012

that mourdock! what a liberal!

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
12. I loathe employer provided health insurance
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jun 2012

And I loathe insurance companies.

Yes, we should be free to move from employer to employer without worrying about health coverage. Health coverage should not be used as handcuffs to keep us working for the same miserable employer.

Universal health coverage is the answer. Let the employers compete for labor on wages alone. Get them out of the health care equation.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
8. Then the taxpayers of the state of Indiana should be allowed to cut back on Mourdock's
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:26 PM
Jun 2012

medical benefits and save the state some money.

Hope you don't have bad genes or smoke, pal.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
10. Does the health insurance covering Indiana state employees,,,,
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:31 PM
Jun 2012

cover asshattery by douche bag GOP wannabes?

madville

(7,410 posts)
16. Health care policies shouldn't be tied to employment in the first place
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 09:47 PM
Jun 2012

It gives the employer too much power over the employee. It should be an independent and portable item that isn't even a consideration in one's career decisions.

I personally believe that health insurance mandates and requiring employers to offer full service plans will be bad for employees and small business financially. I predict many current employer-based plans as we know them today will be dropped in the next few years and people will be left to pay rapidly increasing premiums mostly on their own.

This could be the plan all along. The Affordable Care Act could have been designed to fail from the beginning as a stepping stone to a single-payer style system. Think about it, when the healthcare premiums alone start bankrupting people and businesses and they are mandated to pay them, action will be demanded to correct the situation and for the government to step in.

Of course the danger with a Medicare style universal plan is that access to care and quality could diminish if the government low-balls all the providers and they don't have private insurance to cover the gap anymore.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
17. Indiana Shame: again
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 10:01 PM
Jun 2012

he's just one of many in these parts. Aren't we proud?
We've created monsters.
Politician.
Monster.

BootinUp

(47,148 posts)
18. Fuck it, everyone is on their own! It will be like living in Dodge City
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 10:05 PM
Jun 2012

the way we are going. Get what you can anyway you can or you will be a homeless person someday. Oh, and don't burden society if you get sick, put a bullet in your brain instead.

marble falls

(57,083 posts)
19. Richard Mourdock wants to be on the death committee that teabaggers .....
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 10:28 PM
Jun 2012

whined about last election cycle.

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
23. I swear this sounds like Monty Python...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:38 PM
Jun 2012

... from decades ago, and their "never pay insurance policy". Very reasonable, as long as you don't have a claim.



But seriously, what the f**k is the point of having medical insurance if something like cancer is not covered?

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
24. The answer to your statement Mourdork
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:49 PM
Jun 2012

is SINGLE PAYER HEALTHCARE FOR ALL - then your precious employers won't feel they are hard done by when one of their employees is unfortunate enough to fall ill - no matter what the cause.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
25. All those right wingers who want gov't out of healthcare
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:52 PM
Jun 2012

need to realize that the alternative is corporations. And corporations will do anything to save money, including making the decision to only cover "preventative health care" and cutting you loose if you get sick.

Corporations don't answer to anyone, they make their own rules.

I don't understand why corporations are chomping at the bit to get a single pay plan in place so that they don't have to spend ANY money on health care.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
29. I guess they're seeking to change the point of insurance. Seems they'd
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jun 2012

really like it if an insurance company just got to collect premiums and didn't have to pay out for any treatment. What would be the point in buying insurance if it didn't cover major illnesses?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
30. "What would be the point in buying insurance if it didn't cover major illnesses?"
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jun 2012

Thanks to our elected leaders, our government says we have to buy it, or they'll sic the IRS on us.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
31. However, those elected leaders also determined what the insurance
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jun 2012

companies must cover and how much of every dollar must be paid out in claims. Read the bill.

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