Exclusive: White House Blocks Transfer of Cluster Bombs to Saudi Arabia
Source: FP
Frustrated by a growing death toll, the White House has quietly placed a hold on the transfer of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia as the Sunni ally continues its bloody war on Shiite rebels in Yemen, U.S. officials tell Foreign Policy. Its the first concrete step the United States has taken to demonstrate its unease with the Saudi bombing campaign that human rights activists say has killed and injured hundreds of Yemeni civilians, many of them children.
The move follows rising criticism by U.S. lawmakers of Americas support for the oil-rich monarchy in the year-long conflict. Washington has sold weapons and provided training, targeting information, and aerial refueling support to the Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen. It has also sold Riyadh millions of dollars worth of cluster bombs in recent years.
Asked about the hold on the shipments, a senior U.S. official cited reports that the Saudi-led coalition used cluster bombs in areas in which civilians are alleged to have been present or in the vicinity.
We take such concerns seriously and are seeking additional information, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-white-house-blocks-transfer-214340791.html?nhp=1
The optics are bad when you're selling cluster bombs to the country that birthed the majority of and funded the 911 hijackers.
riversedge
(70,246 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)It won't be a quid pro quo for a Saudi donation to the Clinton Foundation, just good old killing and maiming. Hillary loves cluster bombs.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/21/425303/-Hillary-Clinton-Voted-to-Continue-Cluster-Bombing-Civilians
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)Bodych
(133 posts)...and months later, SA received a huge arms deal from the US, approved by the State Dept. It's taken years to deliver this particular package of death and destruction.
It kind of begs a question: Is the other shoe about to drop?
Just nonsense, I'm sure. Those Friday news dumps are sometimes telling, however.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Complete and total withdrawal.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)I'd rather unleash Sec Kerry on the ME and support his efforts there. I'm very confident in his abilities and chances for progress in the region.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)We leave and ISIS packs up and goes back to previous lives.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)They'll continue to fight and oppress each other over their various religious differences.
We can do nothing but focus their anger towards us instead of each other.
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)We are a massive part of the problems in the ME. We will not bomb our way out and can not bomb our way into a solution.
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)any of the major problems there would be solved. It's a mess and will be long after we're dead.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Hillary's pro-cluster bomb vote in the U.S. Senate, and her actions as SOS in approving massive sale of same to Saudi Arabia have generated much criticism in this campaign, and have proven totally indefensible by even her campaign's spin machine and/or most ardent supporters.
And "the optics are bad when you're selling cluster bombs" to ANYONE, ANY country.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)"In May 2008, then-Acting Assistant Secretary of State for Political-Military Affairs Stephen Mull stated that the U.S. military relies upon cluster munitions as an important part of their defense strategy.
"Cluster munitions are available for use by every combat aircraft in the U.S. inventory, they are integral to every Army or Marine maneuver element and in some cases constitute up to 50 percent of tactical indirect fire support. U.S. forces simply cannot fight by design or by doctrine without holding out at least the possibility of using cluster munitions."
?Stephen Mull"
"According to BankTrack, an international network of NGOs specializing in control of financial institutions, many major banks and other financial corporations either directly financed, or provided financial services to companies producing cluster munition in 2005-2012. Among other, BankTrack 2012 report names ABN AMRO, Bank of America, Bank of China, Bank of Tokyo Mitsubishi UFJ, Barclays, BBVA, BNP Paribas, Citigroup, Commerzbank AG, Commonwealth Bank of Australia, Crédit Agricole, Credit Suisse Group, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, Industrial Bank of China, ING Group, JPMorgan Chase, Korea Development Bank, Lloyds TSB, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Royal Bank of Canada, Royal Bank of Scotland, Sberbank, Société Générale, UBS, Wells Fargo."
During the Vietnam War, the US used cluster bombs in air strikes against targets in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.[6] According to The Guardian, of the 260 million cluster bomblets that rained down on Laos between 1964 and 1973, particularly on Xieng Khouang province, 80 million failed to explode. The GlobalPost reports that as of 2009 about 7,000 people have been injured or killed by explosives left from the Vietnam War era in the Vietnamese Quang Tri Province alone.
Afghanistan, 2001 - 2002
United States and other NATO countries used large numbers of cluster munitions during the initial stage of the operation. 1,228 cluster bombs containing 248,056 bomblets were used by the Coalition
Iraq
2003-2006: United States and allies attacked Iraq with 13,000 cluster munitions, containing two million submunitions during Operation Iraqi Freedom, according to the HRW. At multiple times, coalition forces used cluster munitions in residential areas, and the country remains among the most contaminated by this day, bomblets posing a threat to both US military personnel in the area, and local civilians.
When these weapons were fired on Baghdad on April 7, 2003 many of the bomblets failed to explode on impact. Afterward, some of them exploded when touched by civilians. USA Today reported that "the Pentagon presented a misleading picture during the war of the extent to which cluster weapons were being used and of the civilian casualties they were causing.
ananda
(28,868 posts)Sometimes I despair of this country.
rladdi
(581 posts)we support them.
tom_kelly
(961 posts)Country to sell them to, and quick. They're already on last quarters books. This administration is messing with our bottom line! - MIC
reddread
(6,896 posts)just an 8 month delay.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Regardless....even if legal.....my question:
How the hell does a sale like this even get to a point where the WH has to step in to stop it?
Sounds like this sale was well underway with out any knowledge of our government.
Fucking stupid
reddread
(6,896 posts)Our Fascist Elite keeps the profits
From the article - US is not a signatory
Why they've been banned: Cluster munitions were first deployed in 1943, when Soviet forces dropped them on German tanks. Due to the danger they pose to noncombatants, they were banned by the Convention on Cluster Munitions, a 2008 treaty signed by 116 nations. Tens of thousands of civiliansa third of them childrenhave been maimed or killed after encountering the unexploded ordnances in Afghanistan, Cambodia, Kosovo, Iraq, and beyond.
mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)trudyco
(1,258 posts)He always seemed humane among other things.
lovuian
(19,362 posts)they have enough weapons