US Strikes Kill Fallujah's IS Commander, Dozens More Fighters: Military Spokesman
Source: Outlook
Baghdad-based Colonel Steve Warren said that over the last four days, 20 strikes in the besieged city had destroyed IS fighting positions and gun emplacements.
"We've killed more than 70 enemy fighters, including Maher Al-Bilawi, who is the commander of ISIL forces in Fallujah," Warren said, using an acronym for the IS group.
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Iraqi forces launched an operation to recapture Fallujah, an IS stronghold located just 30 miles (50 kilometers) west of Baghdad, at the start of this week.
Between 500 and 1,000 IS fighters hold Fallujah, and about 50,000 civilians are trapped inside the city, with the jihadists trying to kill those who attempt to flee.
Read more: http://www.outlookindia.com/newswire/story/us-strikes-kill-fallujahs-is-commander-dozens-more-fighters-military-spokesman/941557
Slightly surprising that no one has been posting Fallujah stories since the beginning in the week.
Botany
(70,522 posts)cstanleytech
(26,299 posts)Botany
(70,522 posts).... special forces.
al Qaeda in Iraq did not exist prior to our invassion and that morphed into ISIS.
Saddam Hussein used to shoot al Qaeda people on the spot.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Botany
(70,522 posts).... listen? No but idiots on the right talked about Freedom Fries.
cstanleytech
(26,299 posts)For all we know the US could have decided not to invade but soon after Saddam could have just up and croaked from a heart attack and it could have destabilized the region and there are an infinite number of other "what if's" but we have to deal with the reality and in reality they did invade causing the region to destabilize.
Botany
(70,522 posts)The French told us 3 things:
1) They did not think that Iraq had any WMDs and that we should let the inspections
continue and if they did find some WMDs they would help out in a military effort.
2) That the people we were getting info from could not be trusted. aka Chalibi & Curveball.
3) And that any invasion of Iraq would have blowback and the area would see more
violence and unrest.
Tony Blair on the creation of ISIS
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/25/tony-blair-is-right-without-the-iraq-war-there-would-be-no-isis
Tony Blair is right: without the Iraq war there would be no Islamic State
Only one of Tony Blairs mea culpas in his CNN interview stands out as truly significant: his partial acknowledgment that without the Iraq war there would be no Islamic State (Isis).
Until now, Blair had refused to link the two, insisting instead in the lead-up to the war that sending western troops would deny jihadis an arena and prevent Saddam Hussein from using them as proxies in his standoff with the west.
The 12 years since have constantly disproved both claims. Within six months of British troops landing in Iraq, the SAS was sent to Baghdads western outskirts to attack jihadis who had taken up residence in Ramadi. Back then, they were a mob of foreigners and Iraqis who fed off a broad Sunni discontent fuelled by the invasion; a serendipitous vanguard that not long afterwards organised into al-Qaida in Iraq, then the Islamic State of Iraq and, since mid-2013, Isis.
askeptic
(478 posts)There is way more to this than cheerleading. You might want to read the link below instead of outlookindia. Oh - and they have half the city as hostages. Telling folks to put a white sheet on their roof or to leave is suicidal.
"Even if the city is liberated, the mainly Sunni population of Fallujah still has reason to fear. Iraqi government troops are being supported by Iranian-backed Shia militias, who in the past have massacred Sunni civilians and plundered their homes. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/28/islamic-state-creates-city-wide-hostage-crisis-in-battle-for-fal/
Aren't we just so proud to be there and know that this will continue interminably with the status quo candidate...
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)It's a right wing British newspaper. It was an enthusiastic cheerleader for the invasion of Iraq in 2003 (see eg https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-e-YCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT217&lpg=PT217 : "Allies launch their onslaught on tyranny from air, land and sea" , and are fully in favour of the UK and USA attacking ISIS, not only in Iraq (where that is in conjunction with the government) but in Syria too: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/12001249/Jeremy-Corbyn-cannot-be-allowed-to-stand-in-the-way-of-military-action-in-Syria.html . And the article you link to is just as much cheerleading for the US bombing as outlookindia's is. It's all about how violent ISIS is - which is true.
askeptic
(478 posts)Last edited Sat May 28, 2016, 11:20 AM - Edit history (1)
read both, decide for yourself.
or read this one: Iraqi Sunni politicians reject visit by Iran's Soleimani to Falluja
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-iran-falluja-idUSKCN0YJ0G1
You will begin to see by reading many different viewpoints that this is both volatile and complicated - a lot more so than simply bombing the enemy to win. I have real problems some days figuring out who or what we're supporting and wondering who/how our bombing campaign is really helping...
niyad
(113,380 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)I hope our air strikes and Iraqi allies kill a lot more ISIS scum!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)It comes a week after the government launched a concerted effort to retake the city, which has been held by the jihadists since 2014.
An estimated 50,000 civilians are trapped inside, with only a few hundred families escaping so far.
Meanwhile IS militants launched a wave of bombings in and around the capital, Baghdad, killing at least 20 people.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36410982