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brooklynite

(94,613 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:44 PM May 2016

DNC to hold public hearings for party platform

Source: Politico

The Democratic National Committee plans to hold a series of hearings around the country this summer to collect input for the Democratic Party platform.

In a joint statement on Friday, DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, chairman of the Platform Drafting Committee for the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, announced hearings in Washington, Phoenix, St. Louis and Orlando, Florida, in early June and early July.

The goal of the public hearings, the two Democrats said, is to solicit input from policy experts and regular Democrats.

The events in Washington on June 8-9, and in Phoenix on June 17-18, will be forums featuring testimony. The hearing in St. Louis on June 24-25 will be a Drafting Committee meeting, and the hearing in Orlando on July 8-9 will be a Platform Committee meeting.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/dnc-public-hearings-platform-223663

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DNC to hold public hearings for party platform (Original Post) brooklynite May 2016 OP
1. Fight for Publicly Funded Elections! Dustlawyer May 2016 #1
As a Life-long Democrat, I won't hold my breath. HeartoftheMidwest May 2016 #2
LOL, All of Dem Platform hearings are in conservative GOP controlled southern states! JimDandy May 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #5
Yes indeed - DSW could not be more obvious in her endeavors -- n/t mazzarro May 2016 #8
Washington is a GOP controlled southern state? nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #6
It is governed by the GOP controlled Congress, yes, JimDandy May 2016 #19
I will make every effort to be there. JudyM May 2016 #69
DC is culturally more Southern than most people suspect. Chan790 May 2016 #71
The article said Washington, not DC. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #73
It's Politico. Chan790 May 2016 #75
I guess I don't read Politico enough to know how they referrence things. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #80
Washington is in the South? nt msanthrope May 2016 #9
Math, geography, civics... Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #13
As far as geography goes, you have not displayed any expertise at all. Bohunk68 May 2016 #77
When one says "Washington", they refer to the state. Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #79
In what country? Bohunk68 May 2016 #85
'Murica. Obviously. nt Dr Hobbitstein May 2016 #86
DC, if that is what they meant is, in the South. Raine1967 May 2016 #16
DC ain't the South. Ask the residents. nt msanthrope May 2016 #20
I live in NoVA (Alexandria, to be specific) and am always reminded that I am in the South... Raine1967 May 2016 #27
I own a home in Cape May, NJ....below the Mason Dixon. That's how useful that line msanthrope May 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author JimDandy May 2016 #43
Are you still here? eom. Raine1967 May 2016 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author JimDandy May 2016 #61
Yes, it's considered part of the Upper South. JimDandy May 2016 #31
Yes. How about California, for instance?!!! Or New York? Odd, slanted choice of locations. highprincipleswork May 2016 #56
Odd indeed, since the platform is the guiding document of the party. JimDandy May 2016 #62
Missouri has Democratic Governor and Senator brooklynite May 2016 #14
Missouri ain't solidly blue or liberal. tazkcmo May 2016 #44
Not Even all of St. Louis. Gore1FL May 2016 #47
The best Democrats we have are jay Nixon and Claire McCaskill apparently. Gore1FL May 2016 #46
I'm not sure if I'd go that far.... Chan790 May 2016 #76
The District of Columbia is FAR from conservative. eom. Raine1967 May 2016 #18
See posts 19 and 31. Any comment on the fact that none of the hearings are in JimDandy May 2016 #33
Not really. Raine1967 May 2016 #34
These hearing are being held to develop the Democratic Party Platform, JimDandy May 2016 #38
Non Democratic? beastie boy May 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #40
I mean radicals as in radicals. As in aspousing to values not representative o the Democratic Party. beastie boy May 2016 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #45
Your question was rhetorical and facetious. beastie boy May 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #51
OK, if you insist... beastie boy May 2016 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #55
These five radicals: beastie boy May 2016 #59
Those are Democrats. silvershadow May 2016 #60
In reference to your post: these are Democrats not known for their strong advocacy for the unions. beastie boy May 2016 #64
What values do you speak? Right now the Democrats are where the 1970s GOP was. Gore1FL May 2016 #48
I speak of the values not representative of the Democratic Party. beastie boy May 2016 #52
I lived through the 70's and would disagree. nt Gore1FL May 2016 #67
I also lived as an adult through the 70's and they most Bohunk68 May 2016 #78
While you were living through the 70's, did you happen to come across beastie boy May 2016 #84
Yes. How about California, for instance?!!! Or New York? Odd, slanted choice of locations. highprincipleswork May 2016 #57
Either way, we know what will be on the main menu question everything May 2016 #4
Of course not. iandhr May 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author brooklynite May 2016 #10
It's no wonder Sanders is preoccupied with the platform RandySF May 2016 #11
Insult Sanders if you want. Gore1FL May 2016 #49
Uh Huh me b zola May 2016 #12
East Coast Centric perspective is really getting... YvonneCa May 2016 #15
I would think Dems would be happy with this, Raine1967 May 2016 #17
I think it's great. nt msanthrope May 2016 #21
I'm fine with it as well. Raine1967 May 2016 #24
Well....the hearings aren't being held in Vermont. nt msanthrope May 2016 #25
Do we need to have them there? Raine1967 May 2016 #35
Actually, Obama held hearings on the Democratic Party Platform in all 50 states. JimDandy May 2016 #41
I'm withholding judgment. Duval May 2016 #22
"...to solicit input from policy experts and regular Democrats" LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #23
Actually, Google woukd reveal where you can sign up to participate. nt msanthrope May 2016 #26
That doesn't answer any questions LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #28
Well, yes. The Democratic Platform gets decided by Democrats. msanthrope May 2016 #30
+1 Raine1967 May 2016 #36
They are up to something. pangaia May 2016 #32
Hopefully she's just trying to redeem her (cough) reputation, and nothing more sinister. JudyM May 2016 #70
Brilliant move! There goes Bernie's claim to represent the will of the people. beastie boy May 2016 #37
Yeah, there's goes Debbie's plan to fuck up the 2016 GE. Pretty sure she can take a Progressive highprincipleswork May 2016 #58
What progressive victory? And what regressive defeat? beastie boy May 2016 #63
Who started all this "Progressive/Regressive" nonsense ? Shouldn't it really be Leftist/Centrist ? OnDoutside May 2016 #66
My response was tongue in cheeck. Look at the post above it. beastie boy May 2016 #68
I think your tongue was somewhere else. highprincipleswork May 2016 #72
And my response to you was OnDoutside May 2016 #74
Newsflash: Bernie's agenda IS the people'e agenda. alarimer May 2016 #81
Funny how people, especially Democrats, do not seem to appreciate Bernie's people agenda. beastie boy May 2016 #83
These ESTABLISHMENT Democrats need input from across the country on the platform issues?? dicksmc3 May 2016 #65
It is a sop, that's all. alarimer May 2016 #82

HeartoftheMidwest

(309 posts)
2. As a Life-long Democrat, I won't hold my breath.
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

At this late stage of the game, smells like damage control to me.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
3. LOL, All of Dem Platform hearings are in conservative GOP controlled southern states!
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:09 PM
May 2016

The Democratic Party is taking input from citizens (read: Hillary supporters) in non Democratic states! Why didn't they have hearings in liberal states? What are they afraid of?

Response to JimDandy (Reply #3)

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
19. It is governed by the GOP controlled Congress, yes,
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

and, while the residents are liberal, it is the wonkiest and most political punditocracy in the world.

And color me cynical, it was undoubtedly picked because the primary will be held there the following week: "The events in Washington on June 8-9...will be forums featuring testimony." Sounds sort of like a 'Town Hall.' Hillary doesn't want any more debates, but let's see if she shows up to "testify."

Any comment on not holding ANY of the 4 hearings in solidly blue liberal states?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
71. DC is culturally more Southern than most people suspect.
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:41 PM
May 2016

For that matter, so is Maryland. It's not a mistake or coincidence that it's south of the Mason-Dixon line.

If you have a hearing in DC, the majority of attendees will be from No. VA because the majority of metro DC residents live in No. VA and because select employers (CSC, Raytheon, Boeing, McD-Douglas) will bus them in to insure the tone and tenor of the feedback the DNC receives. There's nothing wrong with No. VA...but it's hardly representative of the Democratic party unless you think 28% of Democrats nationally work for defense contractors of USDoD and support the GWoT. Another 20% or so will be Federal employees.

In any case, it's a meeting whose location will largely dictate the feedback they get...and that feedback will not really be representative of most Democrats.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
75. It's Politico.
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:58 PM
May 2016

They 100% certain mean DC as they nearly always refer to DC as Washington and always refer to the state as "Washington state" or the "state of Washington"...further, look at the rest of the list...it's city-names.

If they meant Washington state, they'd have said "Washington state" or Seattle or Olympia or wherever.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
13. Math, geography, civics...
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

3 subjects that a LOT of VOCAL Bernie supporters have very little skill in.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
79. When one says "Washington", they refer to the state.
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

When one is referring to Washinton, DC, they usually say "DC" or "Washington, DC".

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
27. I live in NoVA (Alexandria, to be specific) and am always reminded that I am in the South...
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:44 PM
May 2016

when I say it doesn't feel like the south to me.

I have no real horse in this race (north/south) as it were.

I've been told that the Mason-Dixon line is what makes the North and the South.

I do get what you are saying, I do.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
29. I own a home in Cape May, NJ....below the Mason Dixon. That's how useful that line
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

is in demarcation. Lol.

Response to Raine1967 (Reply #27)

Response to Raine1967 (Reply #53)

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
31. Yes, it's considered part of the Upper South.
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

Take your beef to the US Census Bureau who has it firmly in the Southern States category. By the way, Maryland (and the District) was a southern slave state right up to the start of the Civil War.

Any comment on not holding any of the hearings in solidly blue states?

brooklynite

(94,613 posts)
14. Missouri has Democratic Governor and Senator
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:09 PM
May 2016

Florida has been in the Democratic column in 2008 2012

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
44. Missouri ain't solidly blue or liberal.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

St Louis and KC are but the rest isn't. Thew state legislature is Republican and the governor may soon follow.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
46. The best Democrats we have are jay Nixon and Claire McCaskill apparently.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:09 PM
May 2016

They would be GOP in any New England State.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
76. I'm not sure if I'd go that far....
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

but having been to St. L and KC (they're both lovely, underrated American gems by the way), I'm pretty sure even my former Republican (CT) governor M. Jodi Rell would be denounced in Missouri as a socialist.

A Republican that believes in higher education spending, thinks teachers are underpaid, supports free and low-cost breast cancer screening, bolstered-up what is now one of the best and most-comprehensive CHIPs in the nation, raised taxes when necessary, and is pro-choice? That doesn't sound like any Republican I've ever seen outside New England.

(She's still a terrible person which is how I know she's a Republican.)

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
33. See posts 19 and 31. Any comment on the fact that none of the hearings are in
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:58 PM
May 2016

solidly blue liberal states?

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
34. Not really.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:05 PM
May 2016

Solidly Blue states are already a win for the party.

I am not sure what you are implying or want to get at.

(I am not trying to be daft, please know that)

Why would the Party go to solid blue states?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
38. These hearing are being held to develop the Democratic Party Platform,
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:24 PM
May 2016

the guiding document of the Democratic Party! It stands to reason then, that the party should want input from liberals, and would hold hearings in solid blue states that, provably, strongly support the party and its mission.

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
39. Non Democratic?
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:28 PM
May 2016

Two blue states, two red states. And all of the participants will be Democrats.

More equitable than five radicals deciding the fate of the Democratic Party in all 50 states, wouldn't you say?

Response to beastie boy (Reply #39)

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
42. I mean radicals as in radicals. As in aspousing to values not representative o the Democratic Party.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:57 PM
May 2016

And I really dislike people telling me what I mean. I mean, I should know better what I mean than what you think I mean, no?

Response to beastie boy (Reply #42)

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
50. Your question was rhetorical and facetious.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:23 PM
May 2016

You were asking me whether I meant what I obviously didn't mean. Not even close to the subject.

I am still lost as to how a reference to five radicals can lead anyone to ask a question about union busting.

Response to beastie boy (Reply #50)

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
54. OK, if you insist...
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:43 PM
May 2016

What connection is there between union rights and an environmentalist, a philosopher, a congressman, a pollster and a Native American activist did you see in my posts?

Unless you just plucked "values not representative of the Democratic party" out of context and arbitrarily assumed there is a connection between this and union rights.

Response to beastie boy (Reply #54)

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
59. These five radicals:
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016
Sanders names Cornel West, Keith Ellison to DNC platform committee

Top Bernie Sanders supporters Dr. Cornel West and Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) will be among those on the Democratic Party's important Platform Drafting Committee after the Vermont senator won a key concession as he looks to leave his mark on the party's platform.


Along with West and Ellison, Sanders supporters on the committee are author Bill McKibben, Arab American Institute head James Zogby and Native American activist Deborah Parker.


Edit to add the link: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/280941-sanders-names-cornel-west-keith-ellison-to-platform

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
64. In reference to your post: these are Democrats not known for their strong advocacy for the unions.
Sat May 28, 2016, 06:05 PM
May 2016

And in reference to the OP: there are five of them. Far fewer than the number of Democrats anticipated to participate in the scheduled hearings.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
48. What values do you speak? Right now the Democrats are where the 1970s GOP was.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:11 PM
May 2016

I'd like the Democratic values of that era, thanks.

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
52. I speak of the values not representative of the Democratic Party.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

And your likes notwithstanding, the five Bernie appointees that I speak of do not represent the values of the Democratic Party of the 1970s either.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
78. I also lived as an adult through the 70's and they most
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016

certainly do represent the values of that time.

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
84. While you were living through the 70's, did you happen to come across
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:53 PM
May 2016

a Democratic Party platform of the times?

Ok, here's your challenge:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29606

This is the Democratic Platform of 1976. Try to match as many items from it to the positions of Bernie's five candidates. Cite examples expressing their respective positions.

If you can't match at least half of the items in the platform to the positions of at least half of Bernie's candidates, you lose.

Have fun!

question everything

(47,488 posts)
4. Either way, we know what will be on the main menu
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:10 PM
May 2016

of the Platform Committee: Screw Israel!

"Gazans are martyrs, Israelis are guilty for crimes against humanity."

I like this observation:

"Last we checked, it was better to be a woman, or homosexual, or environmentalist, or political dissident in Tel Aviv than in Gaza"

Anyone ever heard of China occupying Tibet? Anyone cares?

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
7. Of course not.
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:28 PM
May 2016

Some students at University of Chicago, where I attend, proposed a resolution to our College Council to divest from Chinese weapons manufacturers, in protest of China’s severe human rights abuses and its long-standing occupation of Tibet.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/on-my-campus-jews-are-the-only-minority-we-dont-protect_us_572a9b98e4b046ff51c08a44

The members noted it was political, and disrespectful to Chinese students. Other members noted that Chinese students should be given time to respond to the presenters with a counter-presentation. One representative even suggested that the College Council issue an apology to Chinese students for even considering the resolution. The resolution was tabled indefinitely.





Response to brooklynite (Original post)

RandySF

(58,939 posts)
11. It's no wonder Sanders is preoccupied with the platform
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:51 PM
May 2016

He's spent his life writing documents while actually accomplishing nothing.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
49. Insult Sanders if you want.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:13 PM
May 2016

you might want to apply a little thought and research first, or you'll end up with posts like the one I am responding to.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
12. Uh Huh
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:56 PM
May 2016

How many lobbyists are going to be "voting" on the platform? Will it be a similar make-up of the super delegates?

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
17. I would think Dems would be happy with this,
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:21 PM
May 2016

Instead, I see it being met with a lot of suspicion in this thread.

I just want our party to heal and get together. This is a good thing -- it also good politics.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
35. Do we need to have them there?
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:07 PM
May 2016

and when I say we, am pretty agnostic.

I have a feeling that sanders supporters will be calling for this in all 50 states before the end of the weekend.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
22. I'm withholding judgment.
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

I need to read more about it and also see where this goes. However, the fact that these are being held in Republican controlled states does make me suspicious. I, too, have been a life long Democrat. How they have handled this election is very troubling.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
23. "...to solicit input from policy experts and regular Democrats"
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:34 PM
May 2016

So I wonder who will make up the "regular Democrats"?

And even if it will be open to actual "regular Democrats" of all persuasions, what percentage and influence will come from the "policy experts"?

I wish I wasn't so cynical but with DWS involved I think I know the answers to these questions.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
28. That doesn't answer any questions
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016

About who influences the final outcome.

The DNC and DWS can still decide which opinions, suggestions, questions etc... actually make it onto the floor for discussion.

And they can still also decide in the end, how much they want to listen to the "regulars" and what direction in policy they have already pre-decided on in collusion with their own third way "policy advisors". In other words how much is just for show?

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
70. Hopefully she's just trying to redeem her (cough) reputation, and nothing more sinister.
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:04 PM
May 2016

I want to find out how to get in the the DC forum!

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
37. Brilliant move! There goes Bernie's claim to represent the will of the people.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

He thought he could stir trouble with his radical nominees to the Rules committee and push a Bernie agenda rather than the people's agenda.

Well, with the open hearings, the will of the people will be known well before Beernie gets a chance to spin it.

Almost makes me rethink my less-than-flattering opinion of DWS' intelligence.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
58. Yeah, there's goes Debbie's plan to fuck up the 2016 GE. Pretty sure she can take a Progressive
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

victory and turn it into a Regressive defeat.

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
63. What progressive victory? And what regressive defeat?
Sat May 28, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

Bernie has lost. Appointing five radicals to bicker over convention rules is an obstruction, not a victory.

Hillary won. She gets to set an agenda.

This looks to me, using your labels, like a "regressive" victory and a "progressive" defeat. It also looks, using your labels again, like the majority of the Democrats have rejected "progressive" in favor of "regressive".

You may now go ahead and tell me how Democrats don't know what's good for them.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
74. And my response to you was
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:10 PM
May 2016

not really at you but just a question as to really started this Progressive nonsense ? Is it just a name change because the American people would find it hard to accept the term "Left" or even "Socialist" ?

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
81. Newsflash: Bernie's agenda IS the people'e agenda.
Sun May 29, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

Those people are hardly radicals. Only in the fever-dreams of a corporate boot-licker are they radicals.

beastie boy

(9,376 posts)
83. Funny how people, especially Democrats, do not seem to appreciate Bernie's people agenda.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:08 PM
May 2016

Only in the fever dreams of a delusional revisionist does Bernie's agenda become a people's agenda.

dicksmc3

(262 posts)
65. These ESTABLISHMENT Democrats need input from across the country on the platform issues??
Sat May 28, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

Who in the hell are they trying to appease with this BS??? We all know what our platform should be--- SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED YOU INTO OFFICE!! That's simple enough isn't it?? Time for the ESTABLISHMENT to get the hell out of the way and let TRUE DEMOCRATS take over!!!

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
82. It is a sop, that's all.
Sun May 29, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

They have rigged it so they get the answers they want.

I mean, this primary season has made it clear that lots of people want a return to New Deal era Democrats, not corporate bullshit.

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