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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:58 AM Jun 2012

Manchin to skip Democratic National Convention

Source: CNN

(CNN) – Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, who is running for re-election in West Virginia, said Monday he plans to sit out September's Democratic National Convention, the biggest gathering of the year for his party.

"I intend to spend this fall focused on the people of West Virginia, whether that's representing them in my official U.S. Senate duties or here at home, where I can hear about their concerns and ideas to solve the problems of this great nation," Manchin said in a statement.

Manchin's decision signals he may be trying to distance himself from the Democratic Party as he fights to keep his seat this fall.

While West Virginia tends to be a blue state–with the exception of presidential elections–its recent primary showed that conservative Democrats may be feeling dissatisfied with the party. A federal inmate, whose name appeared on the May 8 primary ballot, pulled a substantial amount of the Democratic vote away from President Barack Obama, finishing the race with 41% compared to Obama's 59%.

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/18/manchin-to-skip-democratic-national-convention/



Another embarrassment for my home state.
This coward isn't fit to shine Senator Byrd's shoes.
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Manchin to skip Democratic National Convention (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2012 OP
He would be better served boomerbust Jun 2012 #1
What are the chances of WV voters electing a Democrat who embraces Obama? Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #5
He did face a primary opponent. And he crushed her, 80-20. onenote Jun 2012 #6
another DINO wwytchwood Jun 2012 #2
He's probably more useful to his masters within the Democratic Party nxylas Jun 2012 #4
Hmm.. kenfrequed Jun 2012 #31
That's what I meant to say nxylas Jun 2012 #35
Probably because he couldn't get the party to pay for airfare from West Virgina to North Carolina liberal N proud Jun 2012 #3
The next Zell Miller. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #7
"Ball Less" politican BE10sCoach Jun 2012 #8
good! liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #9
Wouldn't it be hypocritical for him to go, considering that he won't commit to supporting Obama? Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #10
he couldn't just go out of party solidarity? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #12
The hillbilly vote won't let him stand next to liberals gays and people of color? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #15
Exactly...So what's he scared of? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #18
I think the bigger fear is people inferring that he supports Obama Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #16
So if he's lacking that much ballsack, why even run? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #17
Switching parties would mean one more vote for McConnell as majority leader Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #19
what's stopping him from doing that now? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #20
Probably wouldn't fit in with GOP, as he votes with Democrats 84% of the time Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #21
So again I ask; WHAT is he afraid of?? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #23
Because if voters associate him with President Obama, he will lose Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #24
They're gonna associate him with the president anyway because of the Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #26
Defending people who will not support Obama Kingofalldems Jun 2012 #36
So, are you saying that we should not support the election of these Democratic nominees because Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #37
Because it serves his own re-election interests to be perceived as independent of both parties onenote Jun 2012 #25
It's just sad that it's only the Dems who have to Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #27
Hmmph kenfrequed Jun 2012 #32
Like Joe Lieberman, this guy should not be privy Kingofalldems Jun 2012 #11
These are the same " grown ups" the Blue Douche above is always Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2012 #34
Probably scared-off by this -- Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #13
Native Mountaineer here.... MountainMama Jun 2012 #28
If 40% of the Democratic party voted against Obama in 2008 -- maybe. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #29
I'd like to think that.... MountainMama Jun 2012 #30
Well, as the Democratic party has been the refuge of minority votes & policy Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #33
Of course... butterfly77 Jun 2012 #14
democrats won't miss him. n/t hrmjustin Jun 2012 #22

boomerbust

(2,181 posts)
1. He would be better served
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:29 AM
Jun 2012

Going to the Republican convention. Another pathetic Blue Dog that should be primaried.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
5. What are the chances of WV voters electing a Democrat who embraces Obama?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:18 AM
Jun 2012

Even WV Democrats aren't crazy about Obama.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
6. He did face a primary opponent. And he crushed her, 80-20.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:45 AM
Jun 2012

Yes he's a very conservative guy (and his primary opponent wasn't exactly a progressive either). But for better or worse, for this election cycle, he's our guy. If he loses, it dramatically increases the chances the Senate ends up in repub hands. And his repub opponent is reprehensible. At least Manchin voted against defunding Planned Parenthood and against the Paul Ryan budget. You can take it to the bank that those two votes would have been different if cast by his repub opponent

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
4. He's probably more useful to his masters within the Democratic Party
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:18 AM
Jun 2012

They like to have a few people like him inside the enemy's camp, so that they can say "look, even Democrats oppose these crazy liberal policies, like making us pay the same taxes as the little people".

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
31. Hmm..
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:39 PM
Jun 2012

I think he is more useful to his corporate masters than to anyone within the Democratic party.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
35. That's what I meant to say
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:08 AM
Jun 2012

Poor word choice, I probably should have said "He's more useful to his masters if he remains within the Democratic Party". Or the Democrat Party, as he probably calls it.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
3. Probably because he couldn't get the party to pay for airfare from West Virgina to North Carolina
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:49 AM
Jun 2012

And it such a long distance to travel by car.

It would take him a whole 4 hours (assuming Charleston to Charlotte).

BE10sCoach

(48 posts)
8. "Ball Less" politican
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:07 AM
Jun 2012

Manchin is a "chicken shit" Blue Dog, DINO. Hope the SOB loses! Democrats don't need shitbags like this representing them.

 

liberalnationalist

(170 posts)
9. good!
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jun 2012

who needs that racist bigot to spoil the convention...I hope he was told he was not welcome..we don't need his stain on the rest of us.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
12. he couldn't just go out of party solidarity?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jun 2012

of course not...he might be photographed standing next to liberals, gays and people of color, and the hillbilly vote he's selling out for would evaporate...

I've seen this story play out, and the ending is never good...

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
15. The hillbilly vote won't let him stand next to liberals gays and people of color?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jun 2012

Didn't that same hillbilly vote elect Robert Byrd time and again?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
18. Exactly...So what's he scared of?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jun 2012

Running a campaign from the "gop-lite cowardice" angle is a certain disaster...Dems field this type in my state every two years, and the result is the same 9 times out of 10

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. So if he's lacking that much ballsack, why even run?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:22 PM
Jun 2012

or why not make his crossover complete and switch parties?

and out of sheer curiosity, what's his "official reason" for not supporting Obama? (I know the real one)

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. what's stopping him from doing that now?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jun 2012

God forbid he vote for Reid -- West Virginians might think he supports Obama by proxy and we can't have that...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. So again I ask; WHAT is he afraid of??
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:17 PM
Jun 2012

What purpose does it serve to hate on Obama and avoid the convention other than making his party look weaker?

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
37. So, are you saying that we should not support the election of these Democratic nominees because
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:48 PM
Jun 2012

they do not publicly support President Obama? You would rather have Republicans in these position who will openly support Republican candidates?

onenote

(42,703 posts)
25. Because it serves his own re-election interests to be perceived as independent of both parties
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:28 PM
Jun 2012

Its not as if he's announced that he's endorsing Romney and going to the repub convention. Separating himself from the presidential candidates of both parties serves his interest in getting re-elected and his staying within the Democratic party serves our interests in controlling the Senate.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
27. It's just sad that it's only the Dems who have to
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:08 PM
Jun 2012

play this neutral, fence-straddling game...

The GOP never seems to worry about getting their share of moderate votes, no matter how far right they lean...

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
32. Hmmph
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:45 PM
Jun 2012

It would be nice if the Democrats could master messaging and larger policy strategy. They seem terrible at it and too busy trying to appear reasonable. I suppose this is the reward for the president attempting to appear bipartisan.

Had the Blue Dog coalition not provided fillibuster cover for the entirety of 2009 we might have been able to craft an actual message that would have painted the republican congress of 2009-2010 as the most oppositional, obstructionist, minority party in modern American history.

Instead we got the tea party as the story. Good job Blue dogs! Thank you Evan Bayh for screwing the party as hard as you could and destroying what should have been a generational shift to the left.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
13. Probably scared-off by this --
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jun 2012
Prison Inmate Wins More than 40% of Democratic Vote Over President Obama in WV Primary

President Obama has never been particularly popular in West Virginia, and even though he’s an incumbent president running essentially unopposed, Tuesday’s Democratic primary in the Appalachian state didn’t change that dynamic.

More than 40percent of Democrats voting chose to cast their ballot for Keith Russell Judd, an inmate at the Beaumont Federal Correctional Institution in Beaumont, Texas, where he’s doing time for extortion and threats made at the University of New Mexico in 1999.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/prison-inmate-wins-more-than-40-of-democratic-vote-over-president-obama-in-wv-primary/


That's a serious protest vote. I'm not sure what the source of WV Democratic voter's ire may be but Manchin can't be faulted for taking this into account.

MountainMama

(237 posts)
28. Native Mountaineer here....
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:07 PM
Jun 2012

stuck out in the desert.

I asked my husband if he took the primary results as racism or stupidity, and he voted for racist.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
29. If 40% of the Democratic party voted against Obama in 2008 -- maybe.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:22 PM
Jun 2012

But if they voted Obama in 2008 and then bailed in 2012 odds are there's a protest vote going on. This was a Democratic primary, after all; exclusively Democratic voters. It's too much of a stretch to claim people went from reasoned vote to unreasoned bias in the space fo 3 years.

MountainMama

(237 posts)
30. I'd like to think that....
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jun 2012

and it's probably right, but I know that there's a good bit of racism back home as well.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
33. Well, as the Democratic party has been the refuge of minority votes & policy
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012

for several decades now it's hard to imagine 40% of WV Democrats suddenly waking-up and finding they were voting with/for people of color.

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