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Eugene

(61,914 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:52 AM Jun 2016

Qatar convicts Dutch woman held 'after being raped'

Source: BBC

A court in Qatar has convicted a Dutch woman of having sex outside marriage after she told police she was raped.

The 22-year-old was handed a suspended sentence and fined $824 (£580). She will also be deported.

Her lawyer said her drink had been spiked at a Doha hotel in March and she had woken up in a stranger's flat, where she realised she had been raped.

Her alleged attacker, who said the sex was consensual, was sentenced to 100 lashes for having sex outside marriage.

He will be given a further 40 lashes for consuming alcohol.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36516006



13 June 2016 Middle East
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Qatar convicts Dutch woman held 'after being raped' (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2016 OP
And, this is the country where the World Cup is supposed to be held? NewJeffCT Jun 2016 #1
Definitely! potone Jun 2016 #2
I wouldn't want to be on the losing team LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2016 #15
WTF...this kind of barbarism is wrong on so many levels... Moostache Jun 2016 #3
k and r ....for exposure....beyond sane!! Stuart G Jun 2016 #4
That sharia justice. Meanwhile, on this side of the ocean, another massacre by a radicalized muslim MariaThinks Jun 2016 #5
This is just twisted and sick. PatrickforO Jun 2016 #6
If I was the President I'd be summoning the Qatar ambassador to the White House 47of74 Jun 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author christx30 Jun 2016 #18
This!!!!!! Please this! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #26
How many lashes will those who convicted her get? George II Jun 2016 #8
Horrific beyond words. MOVE THE WORLD CUP NOW!!!! Coventina Jun 2016 #9
Hooray for another one of our "allies". progressoid Jun 2016 #10
Why visit a country in that part of the world? patsimp Jun 2016 #11
So-called "liberal" ME countries have been making a tourism pitch to Westerners Coventina Jun 2016 #13
Yeah, it's her fault for going grahamhgreen Jun 2016 #17
It's not her fault at all. patsimp Jun 2016 #25
Cut off diplomatic relations until they become civilized. nt Lucky Luciano Jun 2016 #12
What will happen when she gets home? lark Jun 2016 #14
She'll be back in civilization christx30 Jun 2016 #20
Yes AwakeAtLast Jun 2016 #23
There's no way in hell any christx30 Jun 2016 #24
Why the fuck are we defending these people in the ME? Out now. grahamhgreen Jun 2016 #16
it is not all the people, it is the people running the country. hollysmom Jun 2016 #28
Passing through Qatar right now... TipTok Jun 2016 #19
The whole Arab-speaking part of the Persian Gulf region is a shit-hole. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #21
He will be given a further 40 lashes for consuming alcohol. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #22
personally I never got over Saudi Arabia morals squad forcing over 20 teen girls hollysmom Jun 2016 #27

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
1. And, this is the country where the World Cup is supposed to be held?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jun 2016

In 2022? How about we rescind that?

potone

(1,701 posts)
2. Definitely!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jun 2016

I suppose the woman was lucky not to have been sentenced to whipping. At least her attacker is being punished, but not for the right reasons and not in the way that he should be. This country should be a no-go place for everyone.

15. I wouldn't want to be on the losing team
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jun 2016

100 lashes for each member for not winning.

I know it's a different culture -- and we still the death penalty (albeit not by beheading) -- but for chrissake, punishing a rape victim?

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
3. WTF...this kind of barbarism is wrong on so many levels...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:04 PM
Jun 2016

First off, being raped is NOT having sex outside of marriage...its being goddamn raped.
The mere implication that it is in any way a consensual act is victim shaming at least and enabling to the rapist at worst.

140 "lashes"? I realize that this too is a brutal and anachronistic concept, but this is also a severely victimizer friendly sentence. The lashes are not exactly slaps on the wrist in a literal sense, but metaphorically they certainly are....IF they were being administered for the crime of rape...not just sex outside of marriage. The actual crime committed here is the only thing NOT being given a sentence!

I have had an absolute ass full of religion this year...from bathroom bigotry to gay hate crime massacres to rapists in the US getting 6 months in county jail instead of 13 years in state prison to this woman being charged with the crime of getting drugged and raped while unconscious. Fuck them all. There is no god, no prophet, no heaven, no hell...there is here and there is now. Yesterday is memory, tomorrow is not promised, only today is available to live in and make an impact. Wasting today on sky daddies and fantasy opens the door for bigotry, hate, misogyny and gives tacit approval and cover for all of these atrocities against the human spirit. When people focus everything on the rules to "guarantee eternal life" in some other plane of existence - with virgins or clouds or rivers of milk and honey or pure spiritual bliss forever - then they stop being good citizens of the Earth and participants in a just society.

Live free or die? I would rather just live free....free from religion and its nasty after taste and consequences. After that good start, I think we could devise a better society with the basic framework of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as a starting point...it is a damn sight more just than the Bible, the Torah, the Koran or any other fairy tale collection.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
5. That sharia justice. Meanwhile, on this side of the ocean, another massacre by a radicalized muslim
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jun 2016

and we are focusing on what words we should use to describe the killer and getting people into an uproar who want to continue sanitizing the issue and calling it 'mental health'.

I shudder to think what would have happened to the rape victim (it's her fault for being a woman) had she been a citizen of the country.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
7. If I was the President I'd be summoning the Qatar ambassador to the White House
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

To get a long and extended fuck you along with pack up your embassy and get out.

Response to 47of74 (Reply #7)

Coventina

(27,129 posts)
9. Horrific beyond words. MOVE THE WORLD CUP NOW!!!!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jun 2016

If FIFA refuses, an organized boycott of the event needs to be started up now!!!

Coventina

(27,129 posts)
13. So-called "liberal" ME countries have been making a tourism pitch to Westerners
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

(see the second "Sex and the City" movie).

Hopefully, this and similar incidents will warn people off.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. She'll be back in civilization
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jun 2016

among actual human beings. She'll have friends and family that will help her through this horrible time.

AwakeAtLast

(14,132 posts)
23. Yes
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:49 AM
Jun 2016

She was lucky to be deported. I hate to think what they would have done to her if they had kept her.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
24. There's no way in hell any
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jun 2016

western country worth anything would let them keep her.
They would land about 20 people at the prison and take her out of there. Anyone that resists would be shot in the face.
And if they didn't, the entire sane population of their country would be screaming for blood. I'm tired of this garbage and their entire garbage anti-women, anti-LGBTQ culture. No westerner should go there. No western government should give them aid. Let the terrorists there burn those governments down.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
28. it is not all the people, it is the people running the country.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

granted that is the family honor crap, but hey your religious leaders are preaching what they get paid to preach.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
22. He will be given a further 40 lashes for consuming alcohol.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jun 2016

"I am shocked, shocked that there is alcohol consumption in this establishment!"

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
27. personally I never got over Saudi Arabia morals squad forcing over 20 teen girls
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016

to go back in and stay in a burning building because they left without burka's until they burned to death.
So this is hardly unexpected. It is not like they couldn't get blankets and wrap them in that. apparently a woman is never considered helpless in that country. And family morals is everything.
Think of that when the moral police (family values people) run amok in this country.

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