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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:43 PM Jul 2016

APNewsBreak: State Department Reopens Clinton Emails Probe

Source: ABC News

The State Department is reopening an internal investigation of possible mishandling of classified information by Hillary Clinton and top aides, officials told The Associated Press on Thursday.

Although the former secretary of state's closest confidants have left the agency, they could still face punishment. The most serious is the loss of security clearances, which could complicate her aides' hopes of securing top positions on her national security team if she becomes president.

The State Department started its review in January after declaring 22 emails from Clinton's private server to be "top secret." It was suspended in April so as not to interfere with the FBI's inquiry. State Department spokesman John Kirby said the probe is restarting after the Justice Department's announcement Wednesday that it won't bring any criminal charges.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/apnewsbreak-state-department-reopens-clinton-emails-probe-40420129



I do not fu*king believe this! I couldn't believe this when I first read it. Seems we are destined to get tRump for President no matter what.
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APNewsBreak: State Department Reopens Clinton Emails Probe (Original Post) Stonepounder Jul 2016 OP
Bring it on! stopbush Jul 2016 #1
If Hillary can withstand all of the endless shit thrown at her, she can withstand anything. RKP5637 Jul 2016 #6
i would be hard-pressed to see how an internal probe at State could have stopbush Jul 2016 #8
Sometimes I think Hillary's email server was likely more secure than if using gov. RKP5637 Jul 2016 #12
Saw this at a pro-Hillary site: stopbush Jul 2016 #14
I absolutely agree with you! My career was IT and some of what I see/hear is chilling, such RKP5637 Jul 2016 #15
Give thanks to GOP Cryptoad Jul 2016 #19
How is funding appropriated? MichMan Jul 2016 #22
I would be surprised if it were not line item Cryptoad Jul 2016 #29
Be like teachers Marthe48 Jul 2016 #23
Thats odd. Lokijohn Jul 2016 #28
I think State is dammed if they do and damned if they don't. riversedge Jul 2016 #2
This doesn't mean a thing leftofcool Jul 2016 #3
You're so Right Plucketeer Jul 2016 #32
This is like a really far out Twilight Zone episode. FFS, why not open an investigation into the RKP5637 Jul 2016 #4
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #5
Did you just call it the democrat party? lapucelle Jul 2016 #7
Sorry to burst your bubble but all will have security clearance Iliyah Jul 2016 #9
Well, you're just hiding in plain sight, aren't you? Metric System Jul 2016 #10
Reassure this poster. lapucelle Jul 2016 #11
Too late. LOL SunSeeker Jul 2016 #34
I AM SO SICK OF THIS!!! Greywing Jul 2016 #13
This was expected.... youceyec Jul 2016 #16
Yes. 840high Jul 2016 #18
Could she lose her security clearance? buddysmellgood Jul 2016 #17
The dirty little secret is getagrip_already Jul 2016 #24
all the data suggest the more Cryptoad Jul 2016 #20
I know this is old news, but I didn't hear about it at the time..... Stonepounder Jul 2016 #21
Clearly a system of "Insider-Tripwires" has been set up, to keep elite pressure on HC nikto Jul 2016 #25
This bullshit is making our country a laughing stock the world over liberal N proud Jul 2016 #26
Well, really, should the aides involved in those email decisions have security clearances? fbc Jul 2016 #27
Anyone surpised by this, Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #30
Never Forget What Top Secret Means SCVDem Jul 2016 #31
Guess they had a pile of cash just sitting there and no embassies needing it to beef up security. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #33
. Jester Messiah Jul 2016 #35
I hadn't Realized there were Trumpsters in the State Dept. Night Watchman Jul 2016 #36
The bottom line is what Secretary Clinton did would get you fired from almost anywhere Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2016 #37

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
6. If Hillary can withstand all of the endless shit thrown at her, she can withstand anything.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jul 2016

She sure has my vote!!! She's a very strong person IMO!


stopbush

(24,396 posts)
8. i would be hard-pressed to see how an internal probe at State could have
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jul 2016

the potential of being more dangerous than the many probes Hillary has already endured.

This really isn't about Hillary. It's about the power struggles that go on between State, the FBI and other fed agencies, all of which have their own fiefdoms, procedures and policies to defend. State has not looked good throughout emailgate, and they could simply be looking to save face and have THEIR say in the public arena concerning these matters.

Hell, the whole purpose could be to point out that the R Congress has denied funding to State many times over, and that none of these faux-issues would be issus at all had Congress funded State at the level it needed to be funded to have the security they need in these times.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
12. Sometimes I think Hillary's email server was likely more secure than if using gov.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

IT systems. You make some good points!

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
14. Saw this at a pro-Hillary site:
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jul 2016

The State Department has the most out of date and ancient infrastructure in the government due to the lack of funding to secure their internal networks.

When I conducted my last survey of the State Department over two years ago, those who were outside the State Department internal network (i.e.anybody who traveled at all) could not access their email. Period full stop.

Hillary Clinton's email server network was more secure than anything the State Department had ever presented in the entire history of that Bureau's history. She is to be commended for the effort and personal expenditure she went to in order to provide herself with the very basic service she needed in order to do her job during her time as Secretary of State.

Yes, that is correct, PERSONAL EXPENDITURE.

She provided herself with better infrastructure than the State Department was capabale of providing during her tenure and she paid for nearly all of it out of pocket.

Needless to say, this is the absolute most information I can provide in a private context without violating the law.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
15. I absolutely agree with you! My career was IT and some of what I see/hear is chilling, such
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jul 2016

a backward IT security infrastructure in some gov. systems from what I understand.

MichMan

(11,932 posts)
22. How is funding appropriated?
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jul 2016

Hope someone can answer this, as I have no idea.

Are cabinet level budgets funded by Congress broken down that specific by line item? like IT upgrades for example.

Or is the department as a whole budgeted a certain amount of $$ which is spent to their discretion based on their priorities?

If the system in place in 2009 was less secure than having a private server, has it been upgraded since then, or will the next SOS also need to have a private server outside the system?

Marthe48

(16,974 posts)
23. Be like teachers
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:31 PM
Jul 2016

buy what you need out of your own pocket <sarcasm>

In these times, there are basics we need, and Internet security is one of them. I read in different places that even though Hillary's server was off-site, her email was still more secure than what the State Dept. had. I read that Powell, Rice and Kerry also resorted to alternate ways to send and receive email. Government is more than buying guns and making war. If conservatives do not like government, I wish to hell they'd stay out of it.

Lokijohn

(46 posts)
28. Thats odd.
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jul 2016

James Comey said today that a gmail account would be more secure than Hillary's private server.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
32. You're so Right
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jul 2016

If we yearn for a reckless, bull-headed cheater in the oval office, this shouldn't concern us at all.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
4. This is like a really far out Twilight Zone episode. FFS, why not open an investigation into the
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jul 2016

handling of emails by all of congress. I bet there are some real F-ups there! Meanwhile, we have crises all over the place and this is the main focus anymore.

Response to Stonepounder (Original post)

lapucelle

(18,268 posts)
7. Did you just call it the democrat party?
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jul 2016
democrat party?

democrat party?

democrat party?

democrat party?

democrat party?

Not only is that a troll tip off, it's also a stupidity tip off.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
13. I AM SO SICK OF THIS!!!
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016

I will do everything in my power to be sure Trump is not elected and to have Democrats take the Senate and House back.

 

youceyec

(394 posts)
16. This was expected....
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jul 2016

Back in April they stopped as to not interfere with FBI investigation. Everyone involved knew it would reopen once FBI was done.

buddysmellgood

(4,032 posts)
17. Could she lose her security clearance?
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jul 2016

That's the lesser goal of the Republicans now that she won't be charged.
Comey called her "extremely careless" and "negligent."
Others found to have been extremely careless and negligent have lost their security clearance.
What will a State Department investigation find? If it agrees with Comey, who will take the fall?
I think it's unlikely it will be Hillary, but don't expect Republicans to let this go. It's all they have.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
24. The dirty little secret is
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jul 2016

That the entire agency works this way. They are forced to.

They can't single any one person out without exposing every one, including those in the inspectors office.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
20. all the data suggest the more
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jul 2016

the GOP rant and thump their chest abt this, the higher HRC's numbers go.... even 20% of GOPers no longer believe what their own party is claiming!

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
21. I know this is old news, but I didn't hear about it at the time.....
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trey-gowdy-caught-using-his-own-private-email-server/22908/

For months, republican Benghazi committee chairman Trey Gowdy has been playing up the fact that Hillary Clinton used her own private email server for conducting official government business. That’s set off a firestorm which has forced four separate government agencies to step in and defend her against a wide range of false accusations. Now it turns out Gowdy himself has been running his own congressional email through a private server of his own.

...

It turns out Trey Gowdy has been running his info@treygowdy.com email address through a private email server, despite giving that address out as an official point of contact and almost certainly receiving official government correspondence through that address. Additionally his republican colleague Jason Chaffetz has been caught giving out a Gmail address for official correspondence, which is also run through a private email server. One wonders if we’ll see an eighteen month investigation into their email as well.


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nikto

(3,284 posts)
25. Clearly a system of "Insider-Tripwires" has been set up, to keep elite pressure on HC
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jul 2016

I agree this is all insider stuff--back-room struggles made to keep Pols on the status quo.

JMO.

But I'm not alone.

 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
27. Well, really, should the aides involved in those email decisions have security clearances?
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 10:10 PM
Jul 2016

They were sloppy and certainly didn't do Clinton any favors with their actions and/or recommendations.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
31. Never Forget What Top Secret Means
Thu Jul 7, 2016, 10:33 PM
Jul 2016

First off it means 'secret' to Americans. This stuff is usually common knowledge.

Keep in mind that they over classify everything. A guest list of the local PTA luncheon could be classified. Broad brush classifying.

Let's give Hillary some credit in knowing she is on an open line and wouldn't be talking about real important stuff!

Go Fish!

Just pay us back for wasting OUR money while doing NOTHING!

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
37. The bottom line is what Secretary Clinton did would get you fired from almost anywhere
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 05:53 AM
Jul 2016

the firm I work for has fired people for precisely what she did and getting fired around here really takes some effort.

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