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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:30 PM Jul 2016

Crimean Filmmaker Sentsov Turns 40 In Russian Prison

Source: RFE/RL

Supporters in Ukraine and beyond are marking Oleh Sentsov’s 40th birthday on July 13 -- the third consecutive birthday the Crimean film director is spending behind bars in Russia, which convicted him of conspiring to commit terrorism on the annexed peninsula. Sentsov, who denies guilt and says he was unfairly prosecuted by the "occupiers" of Crimea, is serving a 20-year sentence at a high-security Russian prison following a trial described by Amnesty International as "fatally flawed."

Ukraine will honor Sentsov with a rally on Kyiv's iconic Independence Square, scene of the Euromaidan protests that drove a Moscow-allied president from power and preceded Crimea’s seizure by Russia in March 2014. The Kyiv-based Solidarity Committee, one of the event's organizers, said the rally is intended as a show of support for Sentsov, his co-defendant Oleksandr Kolchenko -- who received a 10-year sentence -- and other Crimeans it considers political prisoners.
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Sentsov and Kolchenko were convicted on charges that include burning down the office of a pro-Kremlin political party and plotting to blow up a statue of Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin in Simferopol, the regional capital. Both have consistently denied the accusations.
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The trial of Sentsov and Kolchenko drew international condemnation, with politicians, officials, and cultural luminaries calling for their release. The case is widely seen as an attempt to crush dissent in Crimea, which Russia took over after sending in troops and staging a referendum dismissed as illegitimate by 100 U.N. members. Some of Europe’s most prominent film directors, including Ken Loach, Wim Wenders, and Mike Leigh, have signed an open letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin demanding that Sentsov be freed and his torture allegations be investigated.

Read more: http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-crimea-sentsov-40th-birthday/27854793.html



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Crimean Filmmaker Sentsov Turns 40 In Russian Prison (Original Post) uhnope Jul 2016 OP
RFE/RL is our state sponsored Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, right? uawchild Jul 2016 #1
false equivalence is uhnope Jul 2016 #2
You continue with the one-sidedness uawchild Jul 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author uawchild Jul 2016 #4
I didn't want a joke about us to be taken wrong uawchild Jul 2016 #5
Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty "Cautious and responsible"????? happyslug Jul 2016 #7
Thanks! Wasn't aware... reACTIONary Jul 2016 #6

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
1. RFE/RL is our state sponsored Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, right?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jul 2016

Yeppers.

What I find interesting about RFE/RL and RT (Russia Today) is that they are both state sponsored spin machines.
They both have gotten sophisticated enough that they don't tell out right lies about the other side anymore, but instead they selectively choose which truths to tell about their "opponent".

That is why you can find excellent articles, like this one, on both sites. RFE/RL does a great job of pointing out Russia's shortcomings, and RT does an equally good job of pointing out ours. Neither site points out their own faults though.

This is why I don't object when uhnope posts so many articles from RFE/RL, they're good articles. I do object to his double standard of disparaging ANY articles posted from RT though.

But, hey, thanks for an interesting article.

Read more about this miscarriage of justice here:

"The European Union and the United States condemned Sentsov's detention and called for his release.[15][24]

The European Union's High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini stated that "the EU considers the case to be in breach of international law and elementary standards of justice."[25]

Western governments, Amnesty International, and European Film Academy deputy chairman Mike Downey described the proceedings as a show trial.[16][26][27][28]

The United States called the sentencing a "miscarriage of justice""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Sentsov


 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
2. false equivalence is
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jul 2016

another tactic of Putin trolls/regressive left. Not saying you're the former, natch.

Unline RT, RFE/RL doesn't just make shit up, push insane conspiracy theories, hire neo-Nazis and other fake experts to push a lying agenda. And yes, REF/RL does report on the problems and controversies and faults in and of the US and the US gov, all the time.

RFE/RL is known for a very cautious and responsible approach to the news--they are almost boring in their even-handed approach.

I know personally people who listened to it while living under the Russian/USSR authoritarian regime. In your attempts to smear them, you (once again) should be ashamed

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
3. You continue with the one-sidedness
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jul 2016

You do know that American progressives are "on" RT, don't you? Like Thom Hartmann? Like Ed Shultz?

Are they all "useful idiots", as you like to phrase it, too?

"Is Thom Hartmann a paid propagandist for Putin/Russia/RT?
--Perhaps you should regularly monitor The Big Picture to see if there's anything to your concerns. You might find it more enlightening than some of the stuff you might pick up over in Breitbartistan. Oh, and welcome."
http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2015/01/thom-hartmann-paid-propagandist-putinrussiart


And are YOU actually ignorant of what RFE/RL is? It's the remnant of a Cold War propaganda machine. Here read this:

"While many acknowledged the importance of propaganda as an instrument of foreign policy, it was primarily the Cold War that institutionalized propaganda as a permanent instrument of U.S. foreign policy. The Soviets suddenly increased the tempo of the war, by taking over Czechoslovakia and attempting to take complete control of Berlin. Realizing there was no further hope of considering the Soviet Union as an ally, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was formed in April 1949, establishing the policy of containment of Communism as the organization's priority. The escalation of the Cold War intensified America’s interest in broadcasting and information policy.[39] The world was entering into a new era of foreign relations; therefore, the United States National Security Council produced a study in 1949 that concluded that there was a need for the United States to have a major information program to counter Soviet aggression. The council issued document 10/2, approved by President Truman in June 1948, authorizing a comprehensive program of clandestine warfare, including black propaganda, psychological warfare, subversion, assistance to underground resistance movements, paramilitary operations, and economic warfare.[40] The most famous form of anti-Soviet propaganda was the development of Radio Free Europe (RFE) and Radio Liberty (RL), which broadcast to Eastern Europe.[41] The stations' purpose, above all, was fighting a political mission against Communism and Sovietism, against the representatives of the terrorist regimes. Its job was to mask Communist plans and expose all of those who were propagandist of Communist ideology. While other countries established international broadcasting entities, RFE/RL’s purpose was to change the form of government in foreign nations by airing news not about the country from which the broadcasts originated, but about the countries that were the targets of the broadcasts.[42]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propaganda

The missions of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty were separate from Voice of America in the sense that VOA was meant to be the voice of America, reflecting American foreign policy and disseminating world news from an official American viewpoint, whereas RFE/RL has the mission of captivating people and stimulating non-cooperation in Communist countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propaganda

Key phrase here: "whereas RFE/RL has the mission of captivating people and stimulating non-cooperation in Communist countries."
Yeppers, definitely was radio propaganda. Not that all propaganda is all lies, just that it all has an ulterior motive and hence is not bias free.

As I said before, it is STLL a state sponsored spin machine, but has become more sophisticated in its presentation. The same can be said for RT.

I can't be any more reasonable about these two state sponsored "news services".

Response to uhnope (Reply #2)

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
5. I didn't want a joke about us to be taken wrong
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jul 2016

So I deleted it. It was self deprecating, but humor is hard to do in text exchanges.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
7. Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty "Cautious and responsible"?????
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:35 PM
Jul 2016

Voice of America (VOA) was considered a premier radio station during the Cold War, its job was to broadcast news to people in the Soviet Union and the rest of the Warsaw Pact (and later on Red China and Vietnam). VOA was considered careful and objective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_America

Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty were NEVER intended to be anything but propaganda radio stations (and remember the best propaganda is always the truth). In fact it was ILLEGAL to repeat the broadcast of either in the US for that would be government sponsored propaganda and viewed as a violation of the law that the US government was NOT to issue propaganda to its own citizens.

Sorry, Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty are and have always been US propaganda stations and to say there are anything else is to ignore their history and the agenda of the people running both stations.

That does not mean what they are saying is false, as I pointed out above, the truth is the best propaganda, but how the truth is "spinned" can make a minor dispute sound like the end of the world. Thus this man was jailed and some people think the trial was not fair, is the truth, as is the charges and he was convicted of those charges. The Spin is to make the charge sound like it was made up and the imprisonment is unfair. I do NOT dispute that accusation, but to make that accusation the center of the story is propaganda at its best

More on Radio Free Europe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty

I notice the Smith–Mundt Act is mentioned in the Wikipedia report on Voice of America, but NOT in the piece on Radio Free Europe. Yet the Act applies to all three:

Entities Covered by the Act:

The following are administered by the Broadcasting Board of Governors, an agency of the US government.

Voice of America, a radio, TV and Internet network broadcasting worldwide, intended for reception outside of the US
Alhurra, satellite TV broadcasting to the Middle East
Radio Farda, a radio station targeted at Iran
Radio Free Asia, a radio network broadcasting in Asia
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, a radio network based in Europe and the Middle East
Radio Martí and TV Martí, a radio and TV network broadcasting in Cuba
Radio Sawa, a radio station broadcasting in the Middle East

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act


The Actual Law:

http://us-code.vlex.com/source/us-code-foreign-relations-intercous-1021/chapter/chapter-18-united-states-information-and-educational-exchange-programs-12910

Except as provided in section 1461 of this title and this section, no funds authorized to be appropriated to the United States Information Agency shall be used to influence public opinion in the United States, and no program material prepared by the United States Information Agency shall be distributed within the United States.

This section shall not apply to programs carried out pursuant to the Mutual Educational and Cultural Exchange Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2451 et seq.). The provisions of this section shall not prohibit the United States Information Agency from responding to inquiries from members of the public about its operations, policies, or programs.

http://us-code.vlex.com/vid/ban-domestic-activities-information-agency-19200984?_ga=1.209751381.1149398651.1468463120


Section 1461 sets up a method where people can request copies of what was broadcast overseas, but NOT to be re-broadcasted.

Sorry, I suspect this is BANNED in the US by US law for it was produced by the US government solely for use overseas. That is the meaning of the term "and no program material prepared by the United States Information Agency shall be distributed within the United States.".

reACTIONary

(5,771 posts)
6. Thanks! Wasn't aware...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:34 PM
Jul 2016

... of RFE/RL. And even with the artcle I wouldn't have been without the dialog in the comments !

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