Baton Rouge shooting: Three police officers dead and several injured
Last edited Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:27 PM - Edit history (5)
Source: The Telegraph
Three police officers were shot dead and several others injured after a man dressed in black carrying an assault rifle opened fire in Baton Route, Louisiana.
The incident happened near the Old Hammond area in Baton Rouge.
"One suspect is dead, law enforcement believes two others may be at large," the East Baton Rouge Sheriff's Office said.
One man was reported be walking down the side of a road carrying an assault rifle. Witnesses reported him to police, and when the police arrived on the scene the shootout occurred.
Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/17/baton-rouge-shooting-officers-feared-dead/
BATON ROUGE -- Police have closed streets between Baton Rouge Police Headquarters and I-12 where at least three law enforcement officers have been shot.
According to our partners at WBRZ, shots were fired around 9 a.m. Sunday morning kicking off a manhunt for the shooter or shooters.
There is an active shoter situation in the area of Airline and Old Hammond Highways according to The Advocate.
A police spokesperson was not ready to release specifics as of yet.
http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/report-three-baton-rouge-police-officers-shot-near-brpd-hq/275260120
http://www.cbsnews.com/live/
Botany
(70,516 posts)The greater the proliferation of guns the greater the proliferation of gun violence.
I hope all three policemen pull through.
BTW Fuck the NRA.
3 dead
http://ktla.com/2016/07/17/3-baton-rouge-police-feared-dead-in-shooting-scene-active-official-says/
Three police officers are feared dead after a shooting in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, the mayor-president of East Baton Rouge Parish Kip Holden told CNN. There is still an active scene. They are investigating. Right now we are trying to get our arms around everything. Its just been one thing after another, Holden said.
I need to turn off the TV and the internet for awhile .... I just can't take it.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Following gunner's logic, if only that had had guns this would not have happened.
Croney
(4,661 posts)and she said they're hearing "seven or eight" shot. I hope that turns out to be false.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)Response to MowCowWhoHow III (Original post)
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yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)The Internet has changed everything.
lapucelle
(18,275 posts)PdxSean
(574 posts)Rap music often spoke of police abuse. We chose to ignore the messages and the messengers.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)And it was the police that led the crusade to stifle the message.
I think it was Cop Killah that initiated thir rage
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)You had a tone shift of Grandmaster Flash that lead to this -
(and the conclusion of the song & video that illustrated what was also amiss)
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)I'm so sick of this.
bdwker
(435 posts)dumb move
Yallow
(1,926 posts)Sorry.
Hate to break it to you......
bdwker
(435 posts)where people get along.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)I find it damn sad and pathetic. And we have jerks like Trump/Pence stirring the pot for even more hatred and discrimination. It's all very sad and sick. If Trump/Pence get in, we're leaving for a new home. The US will be even more violent and frankly a dystopia.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)Don't wanna be an American idiot.
Don't want a nation under the new mania
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind fuck America.
Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alienation.
Where everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
For that's enough to argue.
Well maybe I'm the faggot America.
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda.
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along to the age of paranoia.
Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alienation.
Where everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
For that's enough to argue.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)that the biggest cynics were, at one time, the biggest idealists, but have finally seen enough of life to know better.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)campaigning to promote even more hatred, division and discrimination in the US.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)has been coming to a slow boil for 8 years. I am afraid it's going to pop loudly.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)ughhhhh
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)so let's not make that assumption.
This also doesn't seem to be an ambush like Dallas.
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)Sand Rat Expat
(290 posts)cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)motive.
Sand Rat Expat
(290 posts)CNN's now reporting one suspect dead, two others possibly at large.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Black male shooter according to the police.
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)This isn't helping anyone.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Igel
(35,320 posts)At times he's like, "People are going to be cops, but we know nothing of them."
At times, "We need to finish the mission of killing all those slave owners and their families, to build our army. Black power! By any means!"
It takes two to tango.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,005 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)The article I read didn't mention what race they were.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They say the situation is "contained" in a "stand off" scenario and there is at least one suspect.
TWO hospitals are on lockdown; there is a possibility there might be more than one shooter.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)person becomes a criminal.
In other words, legal 'law-abiding' gun owners aren't actually defined as criminals until they shoot someone.. Could be anyone.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)Have a Republican friend shoot you in the gut, then tell us you don't have any health issues!
Shotgun to the face? "ah, no, I'm feeling fine thanks"
Friends don't let friends vote Republican
n2doc
(47,953 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)Actions like this help law and order candidates like Trump.
B2G
(9,766 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)Yallow
(1,926 posts)I guess they don't like being roughed up continuously.
Still don't know race or reasons of shooters.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)Is the asshole that started stirring this shit up, I would think he is the one that isn't looking to good right now.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)while. Trump is definitely stirring the pot however, the police for the most part, have refused to address the issues or even admit there is a problem.
They turned a deaf ear and continued on with the staus quo.
It doesn't make killing them ok, obviously, but there are consequences for their inaction and silence.
There's too little regard for human life.
Democat
(11,617 posts)If anything, things like this make America want a serious candidate, not a joke like Trump.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)Actions like these scare people into voting for law and order, conservative candidates. I've seen it happen many times since the 1960's.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Clinton is the Democratic candidate. The other option is Trump.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)This is bad news for Democrats.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Trump is a joke candidate, he will never be more than that to many Americans.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)How is it that a "joke" candidate is doing so well?
840high
(17,196 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It forces people to play to their emotions. There's a reason dictators seem to swell their powers during civil unrest and it's due to fear and anxiety. Look at the Philippines. They just elected a dude who's asking people to kill drug addicts and thiefs. He also made a rapist joke during the campaign and nothing happened, as he won. But he won due to his tough talk and promise to restore law and order. It can happen. I don't think it'll give Trump a win but civil unrest only helps him. Especially when it comes from groups tied to the left.
treestar
(82,383 posts)LOL. And you make a very broad assumption about other voters when it comes to law and order.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)It's how it will be exploited by the Republicans. I don't think killing cops will be viewed as a positive thing by most Americans.
treestar
(82,383 posts)What does it advantage Republicans with?
jalan48
(13,870 posts)Republican's have used race to win elections. Google Wille Horton to see what Bush Sr. did in 86. Black people killing cops is a godsend for Republicans. What, do you think American's are for this?
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)I just posted a new OP from The Atlantic on that very topic. Nixon used it, and now Trump is milking it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512259680
It doesn't seem to matter how inept Republicans actually are at "law and order", Americans have been conditioned to regard them as the 'safe' choice for law and order.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)It would help if people didn't unthinkingly accept the label he's given himself to fool gullible people.
Yallow
(1,926 posts)And causing all the problems.
Make sure EVERYONE knows this.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)I'm talking about the "undecided", middle of the road voters who will decide this election. Killing cops and Trump university are light years apart.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)The people most outraged over TU had no intention of ever voting for Trump. Trump's supporters think the whole issue is a giant nothingburger manufactured by the Left. Swing voters don't care one way or the other about Trump University.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)Trump claims he wants Americans to be successful, but it's the prime evidence that he sees Americans only as people to fleece for his own personal gain.
If swing voters and Trump voters have such little self-respect that they'll knowingly vote for a conman whose marks were their kind of people, the USA is a bit fucked, not just if Trump gets in, but in general.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Her campaign strategists had better get on the ball, quick.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)It's funny how every news item is taken to mean terrible things for Hillary.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)Trump is too stupid to take advantage of it.
okasha
(11,573 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)Don't bet on cop killing to be a plus for your candidate wherever they happen to be on the ballot.
okasha
(11,573 posts)to reducing gun violence. She is prepared to address the problem. Trump doesn't and isn't.
The idea that these massacres are "good" for anyone is obscene.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)It's good for the Republicans because it reinforces negative stereotypes about black people. Fear is a motivator.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)groundloop
(11,519 posts)Damn what a mess.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)if there were, indeed, multiple shooters.
Democat
(11,617 posts)But it turned out to be one.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)I notice that stories often start out with reports of multiple shooters that turn out to be one shooter.
Democat
(11,617 posts)And because the media wants to get the most clicks possible.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)mrmpa
(4,033 posts)She said "when the fuck are we going to get these guns off the streets"?
That genie is out of the bottle.
200+ million privately owned firearms in America. They aren't going anywhere. Nobody is coming to pick them up.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)and civilians, and the ready availability of guns, no one should be very surprised at this. If anything, we should be surprised that someone shooting a bunch of cops isn't happening more often.
We live in a country where the level of violence is astonishing. Our TV shows and movies often show violence (often with guns) as a solution to whatever problems are presented.
StraightRazor
(260 posts)Everything I've seen coming out of there has been pretty brutal where the actions of the police are concerned. Eventually, in a pressure cooker like that, someone is going to take it too far and something like this happens.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was indeed a planned ambush, which is horrible.
The Feds should be sent in to do the policing for the next month or so, as it seems to me that the BRPD/Sheriff's Office will be unable to be level-headed at all now with regard to protesters, having lost three or four fellow officers...I hope there isn't any more carnage on either side but it sure doesn't seem likely that peace will spontaneously break out.
UnFettered
(79 posts)The majority of the pictures of heavy handed handling of protesters were not BRPD or local sheriffs office. They were Louisiana state police.
StraightRazor
(260 posts)I wonder though if that distinction will be made by those on the ground - apparently it was lost on the person or persons on who shot at the police today.
IF that was their justification for the shooting.
UnFettered
(79 posts)We won't know until all the facts about the current situation are clear. It's hard to say what happened with all the conflicting reports.
Baton Rouge is actually a pretty violent city. There were over 70 something murders in a city with way under a million people. I have a better chance of getting killed where I live than almost any county I could travel to. The level of violence in America is astounding.
StraightRazor
(260 posts)This could very well just be yet other violent episode in a violent place, but from afar (Jersey) it looks like the events could have in some way been inspired by what's been going on of late between law enforcement and the public/protesters.
You are absolutely correct that until the facts are clear we simply won't know, and all we can do is speculate as to what sparked the shootings.
I guess I just hope that whatever the reason ends up being, things don't get worse.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Democat
(11,617 posts)One of the articles said the people called police when someone was carrying a gun down the street. That means that "open carry" didn't give anyone cover.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)As in an excuse to openly walk around with a weapon withwithout question.
rollin74
(1,976 posts)Southerncomfy
(117 posts)PRIOR to the police getting there. Seems like a crime and not a targeting of police
Democat
(11,617 posts)Maybe someone was firing a gun to get the attention of police?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)not all is as it seems
Legends303
(481 posts)Although my hearts go out to the family of the police officers that were killed,
we really need police reforms, now or non-sense such as this is going to keep happening.
Both sides need to come together for it their to finally be peace between communities and police
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)I'll have to check how much pea-pod charges.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)If open carry weren't allowed, it wouldn't have started this particular incident.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)And wouldn't care if it was banned, but the story I heard was that the police were called because this person was carrying a weapon. So not sure that open carry had anything to do with this. But the story is still evolving so we'll see.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)That's why I said "this particular incident"
PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)then the police would have been called.
The only way this could have been prevented is if he didn't decided to go outside with his weapon, and/or he didn't have access to the gun.
Democat
(11,617 posts)That's what it sounds like from the story so far. If people called the police on someone with a gun, that is not like legal open carry.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)it is an occupation. And there will be no peace, and escalating violence, with this occupation.
The Dallas police chief, in suggesting that we add more police, is doing exactly what has been causing the problem, but you can't expect answers or vision that are anything but selfish from people who profit from making bad things bigger. The way of the world.
Ten Lessons for Creating Safety Without Police
Thursday, 14 July 2016 00:00
By Tasha Amezcua, Ejeris Dixon and Che J. Rene Long, Truthout | Op-Ed
How can we create safety collectively? How can we challenge hate and police violence by using community-based strategies rather than relying on the police?
For the past 10 years, the Safe OUTside the System (SOS) Collective -- an anti-violence program led by and for lesbian, gay, bisexual, two spirit, trans and gender non-conforming (LGBTSTGNC) people of color (POC) in Central Brooklyn, New York, specifically Bed-Stuy, Crown Heights and Bushwick neighborhoods -- has been working to answer these questions. After a decade of organizing, the three SOS Coordinators, founding coordinator Ejeris Dixon (20052010), the second coordinator Che J. Rene Long (20102014), and the current coordinator Tasha Amezcua (2014present) co-wrote this piece to share the lessons we've learned over the years. We also asked SOS members from the past 10 years about their reflections on our successes, struggles and our hopes for the future. We write these lessons for all the people seeking to address violence and envision safer communities.
Ejeris, Che and Tasha
1. Cultural work is a crucial organizing strategy. From its onset our members have included activists, organizers, artists and cultural workers (i.e. dancers, musicians, playwrights, actors, singers, poets, performers, artists, healers, etc.) and many people who see themselves at the intersections of these identities. However, it took us time to integrate people's passions, fully utilize each other's skills, and create a collective culture and value system that allowed us all to be seen and heard. We knew that cultural work was necessary to build community, create our vision of safety and make space for healing. Yet we struggled with the question of what our priorities were -- and where cultural work fit into those priorities. SOS members who identified as artists and cultural workers refused to let organizers deprioritize art and healing, and consistently reminded us that cultural work is not a footnote or an addition to make an event more interesting. Instead, these members showed us all that art and cultural work can allow us to vision, strategize, educate, heal and organize with our full selves. Organizing that integrates cultural work transforms people's perspectives in a way that is often deeper and longer lasting than organizing alone. After many meetings and challenging conversations we began to build cultural work into our organizing strategies, events and community-based curriculum. We created a step team to engage and excite new members as an outreach strategy. Our annual Bed-Stuy Pride includes visual artists, performers, healers and vendors to bring our full communities together. This conversation still continues today and not without tension, but we keep growing and learning new ways to communicate across our perspectives and passions.
...
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/36812-10-lessons-for-creating-safety-without-the-police-a-reflection-on-the-10-year-anniversary-of-the-sos-collective
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)But no info on location.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)Gavin Long, 29 years old
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)This is only going to lead to police upping their guard ....
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,722 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)but I see LEO stereotyped on DU a lot