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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 06:15 PM Jul 2016

Clinton to call on Black Lives Matter at Dem convention

Source: The Hill

By Devin Henry - 07/23/16 06:04 PM EDT

The mothers of several African-Americans killed by police or gun violence will be put in the spotlight at the Democratic National Convention.

The Mothers of the Movement will put presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s embrace of the Black Lives Matter movement at center stage.

It will also highlight a significant contrast with Donald Trump, the Republican presidential nominee who, at the GOP convention last week, embraced a “law and order” message that is implicitly critical of Black Lives Matter.

Indeed, two speakers at the Republican National Convention, both African-Americans themselves, offered scathing assessments of Black Lives Matter, arguing it has been a divisive presence in public life.

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Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/288747-clinton-to-call-on-black-lives-matter-at-dem-convention

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Clinton to call on Black Lives Matter at Dem convention (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2016 OP
I can hear it as clear as a bell ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #1
When Trump said he was the "Law and Order" candidate yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #2
Ah, finally. The elephant in the room. Will Morningstar Jul 2016 #3
How about ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #5
Black lives matter too. Amimnoch Jul 2016 #6
Exactly. Chemisse Jul 2016 #10
The movement is called "Black Lives Matter". graegoyle Jul 2016 #15
I know I will be crucified for saying so, but I don't like having Michael Brown's mother there. Vattel Jul 2016 #4
The DOJ didn't send one banker to jail for 2008 ... Jopin Klobe Jul 2016 #7
the Obama admin did not prosecute Elmergantry Jul 2016 #11
I agree Vattel Jul 2016 #16
The report also said that the KMOD Jul 2016 #14
That was a different report, and had little to do with the specifics of the Brown case. Vattel Jul 2016 #17
My RW gun nut buddy was over here last night going off about BLM. Evidently there brewens Jul 2016 #8
K&R! R B Garr Jul 2016 #9
Clinton cares Raspol Jul 2016 #12
All of Wednesday night should be devoted to black Lives matter AngryAmish Jul 2016 #13

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
2. When Trump said he was the "Law and Order" candidate
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jul 2016

I had the impression of Imperial storm troopers arresting people of color just cause they were not white. Trump said he knew little about David Duke and the KKK but you can bet your bottom dollar he was lying. He certainly knows about fascism from reading Hitler's books and imitating Benito Mussolini. He admires the iron fist of Vladimir Putin. The people he admires, are mostly rulers of state who had abused the system. It seems like he wants to follow in those footsteps. Making America Great Again sounds like an adoption of some kind of Nazi plan for America. Maybe that's hyperbole, and then again, maybe its not.

 

Will Morningstar

(90 posts)
3. Ah, finally. The elephant in the room.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jul 2016

Let's finish the sentence, shall we? When we say "Black Lives Matter...", that's not enough. When every next Ignoranus spews "ALL Lives Matter!" we then have the reverse onus to prove that what we said was not wrong.

How about, "Black Lives Should Matter More", or "Black Life is Not Cheap"? Then, if they say "ALL Lives Matter!", that's obvious code for "No, they shouldn't", and "Yes, it Is".

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
6. Black lives matter too.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:08 PM
Jul 2016

That "all lives matter" bullshit meme irritates me to no end.

If indeed "all lives mattered" then there wouldn't even BE a BLM movement.

White lives already matter. They have nothing to fear from a regular stop by police. They can walk into any police station and at least expect to be heard and not summarily dismissed if not treated as a criminal by the persons they are seeking help from.

It's a cry for equality and equal treatment under the law and by the law. The unspoken isn't "only" black lives matter. It's Black Lives Matter "too".

graegoyle

(532 posts)
15. The movement is called "Black Lives Matter".
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jul 2016

It is not "Only Black Lives Matter". Nor is it "Black Lives Matter More". That is because, for hundreds of years and until rather recently, black lives did NOT matter. Lynchings (and whites were lynched for daring to suggest that black lives mattered) have been a family picnic event in this country.

Everyone criticizing the name and saying "All Lives Matter" can go choke on something.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
4. I know I will be crucified for saying so, but I don't like having Michael Brown's mother there.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jul 2016

I have nothing against her and her loss is tragic. But it sends the wrong message. The DOJ report showed that the evidence supported the conclusion that Michael Brown was killed in self-defense. He wasn't murdered. Democrats should put the truth before politics.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
7. The DOJ didn't send one banker to jail for 2008 ...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jul 2016

... soooooo ... I'm sure that the professionals know full well what they're doing ...

... OH! ... that's right ... "All White? No Bite!" ... "All Bank? No "KLANK"! " ...

... "All Money? C'mere, Honey!" ...

... and Mr. Holder got his big, beautiful corner office back ...

 

Elmergantry

(884 posts)
11. the Obama admin did not prosecute
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:03 AM
Jul 2016

Because there was no case. "Hands up Don't Shoot" was complete bullshit. We need to win over independents. Waving around the bloody shirt of Brown will not help that. If you want to put up someone, you need to present an incident where there is no doubt what happened. I am thinking of the fella who got shot in the back while running away and the cop was filmed placing the gun next to him. He has been charged with murder as a result. THAT is where you bring the family to speak.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
14. The report also said that the
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jul 2016

Ferguson Police Department routinely violated the rights of blacks and that 95% of jaywalking arrests were black.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/04/us/justice-department-finds-pattern-of-police-bias-and-excessive-force-in-ferguson.html?_r=0

It never should have escalated to the point it did. Something went tragically wrong there.

Lezley McSpadden should absolutely be there.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
17. That was a different report, and had little to do with the specifics of the Brown case.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jul 2016

The evidence suggests that it escalated to the point it did because Michael Brown twice assaulted Darren Wilson.

brewens

(13,594 posts)
8. My RW gun nut buddy was over here last night going off about BLM. Evidently there
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jul 2016

was a march where I live yesterday. I wasn't aware of it.

His take on it is that BLM wants no police. Is that what RW nutjobs tell each other? I guess I know the answer to that. Try and reason with assholes and they will exaggerate and oversimplify anything you try and tell them.

I've been on the receiving end of that kind of bullshit. Working at a Budweiser distributor when I was in charge of loading and unloading operations, the bosses son was the one that scheduled, truck maintenance and routine repairs. He wasn't telling me in advance when he had trucks going into he shop and I complained. It was something anyone with a clue would have known they needed to give me a heads-up on. It caused all kinds of problems being blindsided with that with no notice. He told his dad and I end up getting my ass chewed, "we're going to get these trucks fixed whether it's convenient for you or not!" As if I was telling his idiot kid to not get the trucks fixed! I'd still love to corner his kid and slap the shit out of it for that!

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