Give me a fucking break

By "DNC audio files" did the OP actually mean voice mails? Who calls voice mail "audio files"?

Would anyone really suggest that we hold people who RECEIVE voice mails responsible for messages sent by others?

The platinum-haired Rapist of Knightsbridge has just about jumped the shark. His handler, Vlad Putin, has been exposed as a puppeteer with a grudge against Obama and the USA.

Between the revelations that the Russian hackers doctored DNC documents IN the server, and this, it's becoming painfully apparent a) What the Russian agenda is and b) That Donald J. Trump is a traitor to his nation.

the US gov needs to act already against them as they did Escobar. He could elect Trump!

Do you know how many people the cartel killed? And the ways they did it?
By that logic Pablo is responsible for Reagan and Bush 1&2 along with the crime bill.

He is a foreign citizen and not subject to US law.

Or are you suggesting that the US should be able to kill or imprison anyone anywhere in the world, just because?

Drone strikes and Guantanamo.

they should both be tossed into dark holes, never to be seen or heard from again.

as we allow them to be...

And if we did not keep a cancer like DWS in power, this would have been barely a fart on the convention floor. Now that dws is gone, it is still not very much, because we know that Trump will NOT keep his mouth shut.

She was promptly made "honorary" Clinton campaign chair.

I fail to see anything "honorary" about her.

Don't want to see WikiLeaks or Assange promoted here at DEMOCRATIC Underground ever again.

By censoring them.

them.

Suddenly gives a shit.

We all live and die by your command your majesty!

I saw an ad. They are looking for new tech people. I don't know if any firings or resignations took place in that area.

And Trump Is happy to accept Putin's help and today in his news conference asked for more help from Putin.

though Hillary was a personal enemy of his (words to that effect), which is why they timed it for the convention.

I'll see if I can find something to back that up.

Regardless, it doesn't matter. Those who are going to vote for Hillary will vote for her, those who are going to vote for Trump will vote for him, Putin bromance or not.

We've become numb.

with Sweden and the UK.

And try him for publishing stolen government documents.

And I will be fine with that.

He's pretty well cooked his goose now. She might have forgotten about it until he did this.

Snowden is a dead man waking if he stays in Russia anyway. Putin will eventually decide he's more trouble than he's worth.

i think the article was in the NYT, though I had book marked but can't find.

some leaks from the RNC and they'll probably publish those too.

Survey says that Putin is funding Assange, and he 'turned' Snowden YEARS ago. The only reason Snowden played the whistleblower is because he was already caught by the security clearance renewal process. He tried to get in front of the story.

Since he stayed at the Russian consulate in Hong Kong when he ran, it's obvious to anyone paying attention that his destination was ALWAYS Russia, and that Iceland/Venezuela/Cuba bullshit was a distraction.

Snowden is the Kim Philby of USA.

Wikileaks publishes what's sent to them. They're a conduit for open, anonymous information sharing and aren't the materials actual source. If you're seeing a lot of anti-Democratic dumps from Wikileaks lately, it's only because anti-Democratic operatives have been working hard lately to discredit the Democratic party and have been using them as a funnel to distribute their material.

On net, Wikileaks has done far more good for the world than bad. They've dumped data on everyone from the Russian government, to corrupt third world governments and have revealed major oil and war scandals embarrassing governments around the planet. If Americans have a skewed view of the organization and consider it to be anti-American, it's only because the shitty American media only reports Wikileaks dumps that bump ratings in the U.S. Were you aware, for example, that Wikileaks revealed a major bribery scandal within the Australian national bank, and how the Australian government tried to cover it up because they decided that their international image was more important than fighting corruption in their own government? Or how about the revelation that there were serious security problems in the United Kingdom's nuclear weapons arsenal that were ignored for years, which weren't resolved until Wikileaks dumped whistleblower data and embarrassed that government into correcting it?

Wikileaks dumps data on nations around the world. If it sometimes seems like they're picking on the U.S., it's only because we've got a lot of dirty laundry that needs to be aired.

It might be true. It might not be.

Might be the case that the spearphishing didn't work with the RNC.

It pays to remember a couple of things.

1. There were two different spearphishing attacks against the DNC, one over a year ago and the other in the spring of this year. By different hacker clubs. The assumption is that they're for different agencies of the Russian government--GRU and FSB, two different portions of the GRU, whatever. In some cases the same machine was hacked twice, which makes little sense--each hack would raise the risk of detection.

2. It was apparently as a result of the second attack that the DNC was warned that their firewall was breached, and yet they did nothing about it for months.

These aren't hacking the server, they hack individual computers. These are the emails you get saying, "Click on the link below." Voicemail messages, Fedex delivery information, old friends from Facebook or special offers from www.amazon.tv (where the tv country identifier is wrong).

Where I work we're regularly spearphished. We're trained to spot the attacks. Often we get a notice before we show up at work that we've been attacked and not to click on certain links. A lot of crap goes into quarantine. On occasion a computer is compromised. As soon as that's known, it's wiped. When we're in my employer's dataspace diagnostics are sometimes run on our computers remotely and security updates are regularly pushed over the LAN systemwide. (Have you ever been mid-lecture and had your computer suddenly say it's restarting and not to turn it off while the updates are configuring? Damned annoying. I've learned to unplug the Ethernet or turn off wifi when I don't want to be speared by IT.)

If there were attacks on the RNC, we don't know about them. Perhaps one will be next week's data dump. Perhaps the RNC phishing haul was meager or pointless because few computers were hacked or computers were only briefly hacked. Perhaps the RNC wasn't hacked. I like keeping all the options I can on the table when making assumptions, esp. when one of the main assumptions has to be, "I know all there is to know about this issue."

Hmmm, smells phishy.

The only audio files I've ever received via email are for music or bird songs, not phoned voice mails. This is new to me.

The Cisco phone system we installed last year will send a audio file to your email account,

LOL

In the digital age what medium do you think is used to store a voicemail once you hit # to save?


Hint-

Not One Of These

where I work the IT tech set our voice mails to also generate a .wmv file sent in an email. It's a record of all internal and external voice mail messages sent.

Funded behind the scenes by Putin.

1. WikiLeaks posts, removes anti-Semitic tweets

2. WikiLeaks' Julian Assange Will Be Interrogated On Rape Charges By Swedish Police Inside Ecuadorian Embassy

1. WikiLeaks posts, removes anti-Semitic tweets

2. WikiLeaks' Julian Assange Will Be Interrogated On Rape Charges By Swedish Police Inside Ecuadorian Embassy

Unless you are working for Trump!

It's a news item.

I love Cheap Trick.

If the audio files contain anything, then it is the time and place. If not, then it is only a distraction.

Pay attention. It been a major international news story for days.

The DNC can not play favorites and skew elections. It is actually against the law!!!

That it is undemocratic for Democrats to call their Party's headquarters and express an opinion? That, if I don't have the right to have a favorite? That I can't call my Party's office to express my favorite? What Democracy to you live in?

Perpetual victimhood isn't healthy.

WikiLeaks highlighted on Twitter a few of the emails, such as one dated May 21, 2016 from DNC Deputy Communications Director Mark Paustenbach to DNC Communications Director Luis Miranda regarding how to construct an anti-"Bernie narrative" focusing on the fact that he "never ever had his act together."

Another email dated May 5, 2016 (Subject Line: No Shit) from DNC Chief Financial Office Brad Marshall appears to show that the DNC sought to focus on Sanders' supposed atheism as a negative point.

It does not call the Vermont senator by name, but states: "It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist."

...snip
As RT also reports: "Another email shows officials of the DNC—the governing body of the party that is supposedly neutral when it comes to Democratic candidates—using 'us and them' language when referring to Sanders supporters."

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/07/22/leaked-docs-reveal-dnc-determined-undermine-sanders-campaign

You do realize that there is now an investigation by the FBI and NSA to determine exactly who has ties to the Russian hackers and if any of the emails were doctored? There have already been 3 intelligence briefings over these and more to come.

They were stolen from them.

They have made it their business to release stuff no one wants released. They seem to have a very well used middle finger here. They show contempt toward a lot of powerful groups. The Pentagon, the US diplomatic corps, ect.
No reason to think that contempt won't spread to the US court system.

Perhaps?

social media makes a great deal of the media irrelevant. Twitter, Facebook, ect can spread the information very quickly. People are going to see it. And then wonder why Tom Brokaw isn't talking about it.

Except for a bunch of personal conversations about private matters and a bunch of private citizens who have their info exposed...

same crap from last Friday...

You know, ordinary folks that get frustrated some times and feel the need to "vent." Sometimes I say the craziest shit because, well, I'm mad and I'm an imperfect man. Sometimes I even call my friendly Democratic Party and leave a testy voicemail because I don't like what I think I see going on. Now - in the cool clear light of the morning I think - (a) that wasn't very nice and (b) that's not really what I believe.

Now Wiki Leaks wants to use voicemails like mine to elect Donald Trump? Fuck that.

that leads to being able to listen to it?

....it should be too soon to really say what's in them.
But all large data releases are like that. Maybe a few interesting or useful bits of information, and tons of useless garbage.

Just a bunch of callers leaving their gripes on a voicemail server. LOL

think they are going to be disappointed because Bernie is actually smarter than they are as he knows that all it would do would be to cause Trump to become president.

I think Bernie will manage things with the DNC after the convention.

I think the DNC has a great deal to answer for. There has to be some accountability. I don't think anyone know the depth and extent of the malfeasance there but it needs to be flushed out and addressed.

If he goes back to being an independent again I suspect the DNC will feel justified and not make many if any changes but we shall see.

The DNC has already publicly admitted wrongdoing. A number of our elected officials have already have been quoted in the media that the DNC discriminated against Sanders.
These young people are not going to go away. They want answers. This affects their lives.

There is no evidence in the emails of a conspiracy and there is no evidence that any action was taken to harm the Sanders campaign.

Catty emails about how annoying Jeff Weaver is doesn't make a conspiracy. Bernie primary supporter here and Weaver irritates the hell out of me. IMHO his incompetence is more to blame for Bernie's loss than any petty email on the DNC server.

Planning to undermine one of the candidates as evidenced in the emails is an action and it is not neutral. Furthermore not abiding by the bylaws is illegal.

It is just not there, no matter how many ad-supported bloggers disingenuously cherry-pick quotes and attempt to spin them into something they are not.

Clearly DWS was snippy about Bernie I am glad she's been forced to resign and has been humiliated. Snippy doesn't = secret plot.


Of course, time will show which one of us is correct.

However, I will note that Symone Sanders, Bernie's national press secretary agrees w my assessment of emails

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141531007

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Source: Talking Points Memo

Former Sanders Spox Goes Off On Twitter: 'NO ONE STOLE THIS ELECTION!'

Symone Sanders, former national press secretary for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)'s presidential campaign, went on a Twitter rant Monday as the Democratic National Convention unfolded, criticizing those who were still supporting the Vermont senator over the party's nominee, Hillary Clinton.

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Symone D. Sanders
@SymoneDSanders

Look, people are well within their rights to have passions and opinions. That is how we create change in this country. We need the passion!!

5:33 PM - 25 Jul 2016
144 144 Retweets 197 197 likes


Symone D. Sanders
@SymoneDSanders

But let me be clear - NO ONE STOLE THIS ELECTION! Team Sanders we did AMAZING WORK. But we lost. It's a hard reality for some.

5:36 PM - 25 Jul 2016
2,356 2,356 Retweets 2,648 2,648 likes


Symone D. Sanders
@SymoneDSanders

It was a hard reality for me. Because I fought hard. Now, we won some great battles, but the reality is the system didn't cheat us.

5:38 PM - 25 Jul 2016
663 663 Retweets 777 777 likes


Symone D. Sanders
@SymoneDSanders

Now the contents of the leaked emails show individuals were definitely biased, but 7 folks on an email didn't "steal" the election.

5:41 PM - 25 Jul 2016
1,119 1,119 Retweets 1,274 1,274 likes


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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-spox-twitter-rant-support

Symone D. Sanders may not be forgiving either when she leaves the fog of the convention, and when the full extent of the DNC's duplicity is uncovered.

This is about more than Bernie Sanders, it is about the fairness of US elections and the lack of integrity of an organization's tasked with being stewards of the Democratic Party election strategies,resources and apparatus.

RECEIVING voice mails is an instance of wrongdoing?

And I read the filings in the class action suit. People are not going to get their donations back because their candidate didn't win. Two staffers emailing each other about a very bad talking point is not evidence of organizational malfeasance.

n/t

Argumentum ad ignorantiam, especially in the form of a presumptuous and dismissive comment, doesn't work on me. It's a tactic generally employed by people who have no evidence for their overblown claims.

You're blaming the DNC for GETTING voice mails?

I don't think many people care one way or the other what they have to say any more. I know I sure don't.

most anything that WikiLeaks puts out regarding the DNC and/or Hillary Clinton will be met with an eye roll.

to try and bash Hillary . I am coming to the conclusion that hating Hillary is all that matters from the republicans . Reince Priebus ( sp ) folded pretty quick in the primaries how do we know he was not involve from the beginning ? The manipulative deceitful republican at top of ticket using media so called news papers ( his son in law ) has and other means how do we know they are not responsible for all this ? Instead of looking towards what matters in Nov . electing Hillary ........ there is in fighting .........

look at me not giving a rats teat.