(18) wrote a statement that he never touched her.

The complaint was dismissed. Again. Never been convicted. Never.

Not enough Republicans to go after Harry? You have to use innuendo and lies?

...that voters had to assume that you did nothing wrong.

The burden of proof is and should always be higher for criminal conviction than for public service.

and NO THANKS, Reid+. 'Defying Democratic leaders' wishes' is ok with me.

I would be careful about getting in the middle of this. It is not unusual for a victim to get the brunt when the perpetrator tries to turn the story around.

This is a very recognizable component of domestic violence. Why would any progressive want to sit in judgement and potentially hurt the actual victim? Let the courts deal with it.

Certainly it could be the other way around and Grayson is trying to flip what happened but we don't know that and this video clearly shows that this is a matter best left to the courts to sort out.

most posters here are NOT progressive.

Most admit and glorify being 'conservative'(shudder).

...I think it's a combination of the allegations, Grayson's weakness as a candidate, and his temperament. I understand that he is quick to anger and can be emotionally unpredictable.

More than anything, I believe Murphy is a better candidate and the ReThugs demonstrate this by attacking him so that they can run against Grayson. Grayson does nothing for the race and staying in hurts the Democratic party's chances.

That's why.

He gets mad because the right makes him mad. We need him against Trump.

Miami and Orlando should help him carry but Florida can be wild.

I thought people on this site would still uphold innocent until proven guilty! Can't you see this is Reid meddling against someone who called him out?

I say let's go with facts, not innuendo!

emotionalism can turn people toward authoritarian and black and white thinking.

I agree with you.

I don't think speaking one's opinion rises to "meddling," nor does that opinion indict or sentence anyone... court's do that.

Harry Reid should chill out and let all the facts come in before taking action.

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141531484 for example

It's messy, but it's premature to day that "Grayson clearly doesn't appear at fault."


Regardless, he's problematic and vulnerable as a candidate, so he should withdraw before loses the election over this.

We don't know the answer at this point. I don't think his political career should be ruined when the facts have not been established.

This makes him a weaker candidate whether or not it's true, and if his vulnerability means that a Republican will take his seat, then he should withdraw.

Unfortunately, "guilty until proven innocent" doesn't apply here.

If not voting for/against him in a primary?

Murhpy is Repub turned Dem. Harry Reid has tried to blackball Grayson a couple of times in the past but just the other day he had kind words for Grayson calling him a true PROGRESSIVE. Then this so-called abuse takes place. The video shows Grayson backing away after clutching a brown paper bag. His ex is definitely angered by his actions and IMO she's the attacker. Even Grayson's daughter has said the ex was on the attack. So Yes, we need to get the facts before coming to some conclusions that may or may not be true. The video might be doctored, I can't tell.

have waged a very, very bitter divorce battle for years. Neither seemed to give a thought to how that would effect their seven children. As far as I'm concerned, a pox on both their houses. Parents who don't care about the mental well-being children are not nice people.

Neither side can win a cat fight

All available evidence says the wife is the physical abuser in this case.

Divorce is always messy, even when the parties try to be civilized. Civilized isn't happening with this one.

... if we took the exact same facts with a Republican. We need to hold progressives to the same standard or else we are guilty of big time hypocrisy.

She steps in and slaps him without any fear. This isn't the action of a battered spouse.

I've seen this before, several times in my life in fact, where the woman is the aggressor but tries to pin it on the man. And many times, the man will go to jail for the sake of the kids.

I realize all situations are different & I don't know their story, but as an ex-wife of a man that abused me for 8yrs, confronting him in that way would have been a death sentence for me.

premature and I would think political.

Your garden variety DU member? I don't really have a dog in this fight one way or the other - but is it possible the House Democratic leader knows more about one of his former colleagues than we do?

One thing is certain - having to answer that age old political trickster question: "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" Will be a drag on his election. I'm sure the republicans know that too.

He may or may not know more than we do.

Of course he's in the Senate...

This woman, Lolita Grayson, married him knowing she was already married to someone else. She spent 25 years with Alan knowing she was married to another man. She apparently married Alan in 1990, but divorced her first husband in 1994. This speaks to her character, in my opinion.

However, this situation cannot be resolved in time for the election. I understand why people have withdrawn their support. Alan may have to sit this one out knowing that he will eventually be vindicated if his account is true.

Sad all the way around. I really feel for the children.

But even at the age of 21 I've had people here chide me because she is a kid that is being manipulated by her father.

They refuse to accept the video evidence when the last claim was made and this daughter's statements.

Her mom has also called the police for domestic abuse against the daughter as well. No charges were made then.

Their mother may indeed be volatile or emotional. That could have been what initially attracted Alan. But it makes for a difficult marriage and family life. I think the truth will come out eventually.

It is a tragedy that Ried may have actually blamed the victim in this situation.

And Reid, at his age, should know better anyway. Divorce is always messy and it is foolish for anyone to make assumptions since it involves heavy feelings and the shame that we still place on people divorcing (and human nature) often drives people to blame each other even when often there is really no "bad guy(girl) but rather two people that could not work together.

in trouble. One video does not seem to paint the picture. Maybe she needs help, but I think Grayson

just because he was the victim of the same sort of financial fraud twice.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/192528-rep-grayson-loses-18-million-in-fraud-scheme

Most people are emotionally crushed by being a fraud victim of this kind, and are ultra suspicious for the rest of their lives.

But Grayson, whatever else you can say is pretty sharp, is burned twice in 4 years ... hmm ?

Too bad you don't quit earlier Harry, you've been about as useful as a fart in a space suit...

who in " NOW a warning?" Is saying Debbie and the DNC weren't fair to Bernie?