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brooklynite

(94,604 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:15 PM Aug 2016

Rio 2016: Olympic sailing ramp collapses as athletes' village chief is fired over 'unsafe' condition

Source: The Independent

Health and safety fears over the Rio 2016 Olympic venues have increased after the main ramp of the sailing port collapsed on Sunday, five days before the opening ceremony raises the curtain to the highly controversial Games.

The structure collapsed after being impacted by high tides and stormy seas, according to Rio 2016 spokesman Philip Wilkinson, and although no one was injured in the incident, it raises further questions over the state of the venues in Rio de Janeiro.

A report released by The Associated Press on Monday morning has raised serious concerns over the level of contamination in Marina da Gloria port, where the sailing will take place, as well as the beaches of Ipanema and Copacabana where the marathon swim will be held.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/rio-2016-olympic-sailing-ramp-collapses-athletes-village-chief-fired-unsafe-fire-a7165951.html



...or, as it's known in Rio, Monday.
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Rio 2016: Olympic sailing ramp collapses as athletes' village chief is fired over 'unsafe' condition (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2016 OP
It is quite clear that Rio was an extremely poor choice. iandhr Aug 2016 #1
Definitely a bad choice yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #8
no shit Skittles Aug 2016 #36
what a cluster F*$k BadGimp Aug 2016 #2
IOC spokesperson: "things happen" Eugene Aug 2016 #3
shit happens Skittles Aug 2016 #37
These games are going to be epic for all the wrong reasons. Moostache Aug 2016 #4
Even regional games would work well. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #30
Too late... TipTok Aug 2016 #38
I Love the Olympics, Too RobinA Aug 2016 #39
At the risk of sounding like Rodney Dangerfield rocktivity Aug 2016 #5
Ah, but is the water so polluted that the sailing course doubles as the marathon course? n/t Igel Aug 2016 #13
It very nearly does pediatricmedic Aug 2016 #16
Remember jehop61 Aug 2016 #6
And I remember conservatives cheering when they found out Chicago lost it's bid RAFisher Aug 2016 #7
Chicago would hate it especially the debt afterwards. yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #10
Indeed iandhr Aug 2016 #11
los angeles melm00se Aug 2016 #12
There are always exceptions to the rule. iandhr Aug 2016 #14
LA made a profit. Igel Aug 2016 #15
Peter Ueberroth had the sense to sell naming rights to EVERYTHING in the world jmowreader Aug 2016 #18
LA could probaby put on the Games at no notice SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #19
You're right. RAFisher Aug 2016 #22
I don't want these damn games in the USA, period! Dawson Leery Aug 2016 #32
I'm glad I went to Rio for the World Cup and not the Olympics. UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #9
You made the right choice. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #31
A very wise decision NWCorona Aug 2016 #34
This is definitely shaping up to be a category 5 shit storm! Initech Aug 2016 #17
shaping up to be the survival-horror games 0rganism Aug 2016 #20
It seems the Olympics zentrum Aug 2016 #21
Or there could be several permanent facilities. greymattermom Aug 2016 #24
I like it. zentrum Aug 2016 #29
This isn't going to go over well for the althletes health ffr Aug 2016 #23
The water is disgusting Politicub Aug 2016 #25
I remember thinking the beaches would be pristine NWCorona Aug 2016 #35
A world class event implemented on a shoestring budget. lpbk2713 Aug 2016 #26
The Olympics are corrupt, horrifically corrupt. Dawson Leery Aug 2016 #27
If you can, check out The Nation and sportswriter Dave Zirin DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #28
Should have chosen Chicago! Tatiana Aug 2016 #33
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
8. Definitely a bad choice
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:43 PM
Aug 2016

I was looking forward to two weeks of no disasters (trump). It looks like my dream will not be realized.

Eugene

(61,903 posts)
3. IOC spokesperson: "things happen"
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:21 PM
Aug 2016

Source: Associated Press

Olympic sailing ramp in Rio de Janeiro collapses

Associated Press
Monday 1 August 2016 01.37 BST

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Training will not be affected as the boats can use the permanent ramp to the side of the damaged structure, Rio 2016’s spokesman said. Mark Adams, International Olympic Committee spokesman, said “it would be wrong to make a great deal” of the Marina da Gloria incident. “In the run-up to the games, things happen,” Adams said.

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/01/olympic-sailing-ramp-in-rio-de-janeiro-collapses

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
4. These games are going to be epic for all the wrong reasons.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:22 PM
Aug 2016

Worst. Choice. Ever.

The IOC should award games to countries, like they (FIFA) do for the World Cup, instead of select cities, to ease the burden on getting such large events crammed into obviously incapable areas. Even the biggest and best cities in the world face crushing infrastructure stress and venue problems in the current system.

I just hope no one ends up dead because of faulty construction, rushed inspections or fraud. I love the Olympics and have since I was a very little boy in '76 and then as a child of the '80 Miracle on Ice. I'd hate to see the event collapse on itself now...

Ace Rothstein

(3,164 posts)
30. Even regional games would work well.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:27 PM
Aug 2016

California, Florida or the Boston-Washington corridor would all be able to host the games without having to add much in the way of infrastructure/venues.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
38. Too late...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:24 AM
Aug 2016
http://www.espn.co.uk/olympics/story/_/id/15357163/11-workers-killed-olympic-construction-brazil

Eleven people died while working on Olympic facilities or Games-related projects between January 2013 and March 2016, according to a report released Monday by Rio de Janeiro's Regional Labor and Employment Office.

The report, released by Elaine Castilho, the auditor for the Rio Olympic Games works, also notes that no workers died in the preparations for the 2012 Summer Games in London.

The Metro Line 4 work saw the highest number of fatalities with three. One worker was killed by a truck, another fell from a ladder onto the tracks and another suffered fatal injuries from being whipped by a compressed air hose.

The other fatal accidents took place at the Museum of Image and Sound, at the Museum of Tomorrow, during work to extend the Elevado do Joa (the highway linking Barra da Tijuca to the Zona Sul), and during work surrounding the Olympic Park, on the Supervia and on the Transolimpica.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
39. I Love the Olympics, Too
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:09 AM
Aug 2016

I think they need to award Olympics based more on what exists on the ground at the time than on a bunch of promises. I realize every city can't be building an entire Olympic infrastructure BEFORE they get the game, but a few basics should be in order. Like clean water. That isn't usually an easy fix, so maybe Rio should have been told to clean up the water, then submit another bid. Hell, clean water benefits everyone there, even if the Olympics never come.

And, like much in sports, things are just getting too big and complicated for anyplace normal to be able to afford it. Which was always part of the appeal of the Olympics. They were often held in places you never heard of and you got to put a whole new place on your mental map. Sapporo? Never heard of it 'til I spent two weeks virtually there by watching the 1972 Olympics.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
5. At the risk of sounding like Rodney Dangerfield
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:27 PM
Aug 2016

Their water's so polluted, the marathon swimmers have been advised keep their mouths shut.


rocktivity

pediatricmedic

(397 posts)
16. It very nearly does
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:36 PM
Aug 2016

You can actually see the feces in the water, no chance to start breaking down yet. Then there is all the floating trash as well.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
7. And I remember conservatives cheering when they found out Chicago lost it's bid
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:36 PM
Aug 2016

Pretty sad. Anti-America conservatives. I wonder how many of them are still glade it's not in Chicago?

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
11. Indeed
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:47 PM
Aug 2016

I am a New Yorker who know lives in Boston. We lost the bid to London in 2012.


It turns out is was a good thing we didn't get it because the cost overruns in London were huge. Cities that host the Olympics are often left with decades of debt. We dodged a bullet.


Boston also made the right decision to cancel its bid. Polls showed that most residents were opposed, it was handled terribly. Marty Walsh then saw what the cost to the taxpayers would be and correctly said "no thank you."

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
12. los angeles
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:21 PM
Aug 2016

Iirc absorbed the cost and disruption better than any other city. They had most facilities already built. UCLA acted as the athletes village, USC as the media center. The LA colesium handled the opening/closing ceremonies and the varoius existing arenas handled most sports.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
14. There are always exceptions to the rule.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:24 PM
Aug 2016

One of the reasons why Los Angeles was picked to replace Boston as the American bid for the 2024 Olympics.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
15. LA made a profit.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:27 PM
Aug 2016

Taxpayer money was put into the organization, but it returned a profit and more than the taxpayers put in went to just youth programs.

Net plus. First time in 52 years summer games weren't a money hole. Seldom repeated.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
22. You're right.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 06:29 PM
Aug 2016

I was going to write that. There is a good argument to oppose the Olympics in Chicago. But I remember conservatives opposed this just because the Black man was in favor of it.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
9. I'm glad I went to Rio for the World Cup and not the Olympics.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:44 PM
Aug 2016

I had a choice 4 years ago as to whether I would go to Rio for the World Cup or for the Olympics. I chose the World Cup and am glad I did because now there is Zika, still an issue with crime, and even during the World Cup there were several areas which were closed off by tape or barrier because of "safety issues". So I really pray that there is not some tragedy at a stadium due to rushed work and cutting corners to be prepared in time.

Ace Rothstein

(3,164 posts)
31. You made the right choice.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:29 PM
Aug 2016

I went 4 months after the World Cup. It sounds like crime is up considerably with the recession that they started to experience in late 2014/early 2015.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
20. shaping up to be the survival-horror games
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 06:14 PM
Aug 2016

collapsing dock is pretty much fucked up deathtrap material right there

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
21. It seems the Olympics
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 06:26 PM
Aug 2016

…..have become totally corrupt in terms of choosing and constructing a venue. Oligarchs make millions/billions and leave empty useless structures that don't help and often hurt and displace local residents. The bidding for the country to hold this thing in is fraught with rumors of bribery.

A solution I think is to repatriate the summer Olympics permanently to Greece which has the historical claim on creating them. They should be held there every year, each year hosted by a different country who can put their own ethnic/patriotic stamp on the hosting. It would save billions in dollars in construction and give a much needed infusion into Greek economy, which would help the entire EU. Which would help the world economy.

Facilities and security could be improved every year instead of having to be rebuilt and abandoned every few years.

As it stands now, it's such a boondoggle and considering Rio's condition —the boondoggle has become dangerous and unhealthy.

Not sure what to do with the Winter Olympics—or what country it would make "sense" to pick as the permanent winter home. Oslo? Finland? Canada? Or an emerging economy that has guaranteed snow?

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
24. Or there could be several permanent facilities.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:23 PM
Aug 2016

Maybe LA, London, something Asian, and just rotate the games.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
29. I like it.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:06 PM
Aug 2016

Some place in Africa maybe too. Four venues for the four corners of the world or something like that.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
23. This isn't going to go over well for the althletes health
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:14 PM
Aug 2016

Which one is more telling. The cartoon portrayal of the future or a picture of how it is now?


Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
27. The Olympics are corrupt, horrifically corrupt.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:40 PM
Aug 2016

A failed games in Rio could be the bottoming out that the games need to survive.
Bailing out failure never works.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
33. Should have chosen Chicago!
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:44 PM
Aug 2016

Still have no idea who decided to hand the bid to Rio. What a shame. The President and Mayor thought Chicago had the strongest presentation.

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