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brooklynite

(94,740 posts) Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:16 AM Aug 2016

Utah could vote Democrat for president for first time in 5 decades

Source: KUTV

The Republican and Democrat national conventions are over and as the dust starts to settle, it looks like Hillary Clinton has a chance to carry Utah in the U.S. presidential election.

A new Hinckley Institute-Salt Lake Tribune poll shows the two are virtually tied with 35 percent for Donald Trump and 36 percent for Hillary Clinton. That is as close as a Democratic candidate has been to victory in more than half a century.

Clinton declined to campaign in the state during primary season and came in the spring only to raise money. Republican Mitt Romney, popular in Utah, spoke strongly against Trump. Utah Republican Sen. Mike Lee fought against Trump at the Republican National Convention and said he doesn't know if he will vote for for his party's candidate, Trump.

Utah has been the most Republican state for 40 years but that could change with Trump's run toward the White House.

Read more: http://kutv.com/news/local/utah-could-vote-democrat-for-president-for-first-time-in-50-years

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Utah could vote Democrat for president for first time in 5 decades (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2016 OP

Trump had been anti-Mormon Renew Deal Aug 2016 #1

Trump is anti-everything-that-isn't-him AllyCat Aug 2016 #4

Bingo!! riversedge Aug 2016 #12

This poll ignores the fact that Utah COULD also go Libertarian. 7962 Aug 2016 #2

If normally "red" states go Libertarian, it will be Rethug nightmare. roamer65 Aug 2016 #6

Very good point! Even if we lose, keep it Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #9

Hope so, but with a state stupid enough to elected Rep Jason E. Chaffetz, it's a longshot! Chasstev365 Aug 2016 #3

Again, Republican news source AllyCat Aug 2016 #5

Exactly! I just wrote the same thing!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #8

My pet peeve is "Democrat"! It's DEMOCRATIC!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2016 #7

Thank you! Aristus Aug 2016 #14

New poll? Yonnie3 Aug 2016 #10

Fingers and toes crossed that you are right. riversedge Aug 2016 #11

KUTV has corrected their story - This was a June Poll Yonnie3 Aug 2016 #13

3 polls in all from June with Johnson numbers: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #15

Renew Deal

(81,875 posts)

1. Trump had been anti-Mormon

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:26 AM

Aug 2016

So it would be great if Hillary won but I'm not counting on it

AllyCat

(16,226 posts)

4. Trump is anti-everything-that-isn't-him

Reply to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:12 AM

Aug 2016

riversedge

(70,306 posts)

12. Bingo!!

Reply to AllyCat (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:11 AM

Aug 2016

7962

(11,841 posts)

2. This poll ignores the fact that Utah COULD also go Libertarian.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:51 AM

Aug 2016

Notice their numbers only add up to around 70%. They dont mention who else is getting support
Gary Johnson is polling in the mid 20s. If he campaigns heavily in a few of these western states, he could take 1-2. If its a close race nationally, that would keep either Trump or Clinton from getting 270. Then guess what happens.

But being a close race is not what I expect to see happen

roamer65

(36,747 posts)

6. If normally "red" states go Libertarian, it will be Rethug nightmare.

Reply to 7962 (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:29 AM

Aug 2016

Won't affect the election, otherwise. IMHO.

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

9. Very good point! Even if we lose, keep it

Reply to 7962 (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:32 AM

Aug 2016

close because it takes away from Trump's popular vote.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)

3. Hope so, but with a state stupid enough to elected Rep Jason E. Chaffetz, it's a longshot!

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:53 AM

Aug 2016

AllyCat

(16,226 posts)

5. Again, Republican news source

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:15 AM

Aug 2016

You can always tell when they call it the "Democrat" convention, instead of Democratic. If the Libertarians take a couple already red states, it wouldn't really hurt the Dems, would it?

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

8. Exactly! I just wrote the same thing!!

Reply to AllyCat (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:30 AM

Aug 2016

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)

7. My pet peeve is "Democrat"! It's DEMOCRATIC!!!

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:30 AM

Aug 2016

Other than that, it's nice to hear that Dems have a chance to win Utah. A few years back, I tried to tell my father that Salt Lake City especially is becoming more progressive and liberal. He yelled at me, exclaiming that it's not true. But it is true. The younger generations of Mormons are not as religious or conservative. Things are changing.

Aristus

(66,467 posts)

14. Thank you!

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:21 AM

Aug 2016

Republicans deliberately getting it wrong in order to needle us (hey, fuck you, Republicans! You nominated fucking Donald Trump!)

But Democrats need to get it right...

Yonnie3

(17,486 posts)

10. New poll?

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:04 AM

Aug 2016

There is no link in the story to the poll. I like to see details of the poll. The last poll the Salt Lake Tribune published was June 11. They mentioned this poll in an August 1 story.

What poll is KUTV talking about?

riversedge

(70,306 posts)

11. Fingers and toes crossed that you are right.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:10 AM

Aug 2016

Yonnie3

(17,486 posts)

13. KUTV has corrected their story - This was a June Poll

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:18 AM

Aug 2016

muriel_volestrangler

(101,367 posts)

15. 3 polls in all from June with Johnson numbers:

Reply to Yonnie3 (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:40 AM

Aug 2016

http://www.270towin.com/2016-polls-clinton-trump/utah/

Dan Jones - Trump 36%, Clinton 27%, Johnson 10%
SurveyUSA - Trump 35%, Clinton 35%m Johnson 13%
Gravis - Trump 29%,m Clinton 26% Johnson 16%

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