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Native

(5,943 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:28 PM Aug 2016

Trump Foreign Policy Adviser Traveled To Russia Prior To Changes In GOP Platform

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON ― Just days before Republicans adopted a new, more Russia-friendly plank into their party platform, one of Donald Trump’s top advisers visited Moscow in July to deliver speeches criticizing decades of U.S. foreign policy.

Global energy investor Carter Page joined Trump’s team in March. Since then, Page has criticized U.S.-Russia policy in a number of public speeches, and repeatedly expressed his hope that a closer relationship between the two nations might be possible with Trump in the White House.

“Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption, and regime change,” Page said last month during a commencement speech at a Moscow economics graduate school.

Page also suggested the United States should ease economic sanctions imposed on Russia following its 2014 incursion into Ukraine and Crimea, which was condemned in an overwhelming vote in the United Nations. In exchange for sanctions relief, Page said, American companies might be invited to partner with Russian firms to exploit Russia’s oil and gas fields.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carter-page-trump-russia_us_57a0f329e4b0693164c2fb41

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Trump Foreign Policy Adviser Traveled To Russia Prior To Changes In GOP Platform (Original Post) Native Aug 2016 OP
Whoa. tanyev Aug 2016 #1
How much $$$ for Trump's campaign did these anti-U.S. speeches generate? Zambero Aug 2016 #6
What are Drumpf's ties to communist Russia? ffr Aug 2016 #2
His "empire" floats on a sea of oligarch "loans." PSPS Aug 2016 #16
Fact: Trump has been liquidating assets Enoki33 Aug 2016 #23
His son admitted most of their loans are to Russian oligarchs Tempest Aug 2016 #26
60 Minutes & 20/20 need to get in on this ffr Aug 2016 #27
oh my... eom DURHAM D Aug 2016 #3
What's this? An apology tour?!? Zambero Aug 2016 #4
K & R Koinos Aug 2016 #5
this should be treason. olddad56 Aug 2016 #7
Reagan sent a secret negotiator to Europe to speak to representatives of Iran.... George II Aug 2016 #9
"I have no relationship with Putin". George II Aug 2016 #8
We were stablemates Motley13 Aug 2016 #10
It is getting hard keeping up with PatSeg Aug 2016 #11
And to think we have three more months of it... ailsagirl Aug 2016 #22
I know PatSeg Aug 2016 #24
Thank God for DU!! It's definitely a big help ailsagirl Aug 2016 #25
Same here PatSeg Aug 2016 #31
C'mon, DNC! Research this and run with it! n/t SpankMe Aug 2016 #12
Cheeto is the Trojan horse who setting the US for a takeover by the Russian oligarchs kimbutgar Aug 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Aug 2016 #18
Yes - the Era of Political Correctness is over, no more Human Rights BS jpak Aug 2016 #14
Am I the only one who thinks Volaris Aug 2016 #15
"So let's allow Putin to fuck over our allies so we can Ilsa Aug 2016 #17
And think what will happen jbeing Aug 2016 #19
He is a great fan of Putin, wants to keep him happy. Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #20
As future business partners often say and do ffr Aug 2016 #28
And the walls are closing in... sofa king Aug 2016 #21
Do you think PBO knows more details on this, thus today's statement? ffr Aug 2016 #29
I'd be willing to bet a bunch that Obama and others in the administration know plenty about... northoftheborder Aug 2016 #30
Yes. sofa king Aug 2016 #32

Zambero

(8,971 posts)
6. How much $$$ for Trump's campaign did these anti-U.S. speeches generate?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:34 PM
Aug 2016

More dots to connect. The big picture may be getting clearer.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
23. Fact: Trump has been liquidating assets
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:57 PM
Aug 2016

while increasing debt at the same time. Fact: His properties, primarily the golf courses, have been extremely overvalued and not supported by revenue. Fact: There has been reported an influx of unexplained cash from Russian oligarchs. The release of his tax returns would clarify exactly who Trump owes money to. There is much more than the diminished net worth at stake. He once said the release of his tax records could be used against him. And this does not explore his reported ties to a certain mob boss. For all we know he has been bought and paid for. We as a nation deserve to know.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
26. His son admitted most of their loans are to Russian oligarchs
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:16 PM
Aug 2016

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

It's estimated that more than half of Drumpf's $630 million in debt is owed to Russians with connections to Putin.

ffr

(22,672 posts)
27. 60 Minutes & 20/20 need to get in on this
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:48 PM
Aug 2016

This is like a 007 movie with Gold Finger. I'm disgusted, but intrigued at what probably are the reasons driving Drumpf on this chaotic charade.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Reagan sent a secret negotiator to Europe to speak to representatives of Iran....
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:37 PM
Aug 2016

....before his election. It was obvious he promised them something (perhaps arms via the Iran Contra affair?) in exchange for them not releasing the embassy hostages until after the election.

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
25. Thank God for DU!! It's definitely a big help
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:34 PM
Aug 2016

But I need to pace myself because I get inundated with info easily and then I can't sleep at night!

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
31. Same here
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:53 AM
Aug 2016

It becomes overwhelming and often depressing. I have to take frequent breaks to maintain my sanity.

kimbutgar

(21,195 posts)
13. Cheeto is the Trojan horse who setting the US for a takeover by the Russian oligarchs
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:22 PM
Aug 2016

Who own Cheeto though his debt. Putin is waiting patiently to make his move.

This has got to get out that the traitor Cheeto is going to sell this country to get his debts paid off.

I just don't get how his brain washed zombies have no problem with Cheeto being controlled by the Russian foreign bankers. It is a big conflict of interest.

Response to kimbutgar (Reply #13)

jpak

(41,759 posts)
14. Yes - the Era of Political Correctness is over, no more Human Rights BS
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:24 PM
Aug 2016

Corrupt violent authoritarianism is the way of the future!!!!1

yup

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
15. Am I the only one who thinks
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:25 PM
Aug 2016

That maybe Russia should be able to exploit Russias oil and gas fields???? Besides, shouldn't we be independent enough as a Sovereign NationState to just say to ourselves:

Fuck what the rest of the world does...If China want to pay people 10cents/hour, let them, but I'm NOT COMPETING with that ( because that's STUPID)...

If Russia wants their gas and oil fields exploited, LET THEM DO IT, because we don't need to because we're smart enough to mass-produce solar panels in America..

Maybe it's just me. 'Competing' with idiots doesn't seem like a useful idea.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
17. "So let's allow Putin to fuck over our allies so we can
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:32 PM
Aug 2016

make more money on oil and gas. No biggie, right?"

Yeah, treason sounds about right. Carter Page and Manafort and a few others may eventually find that they can't go anywhere except Russia if they keep this shit up.

jbeing

(171 posts)
19. And think what will happen
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:09 PM
Aug 2016

when The Donald tries to walk away from these oilygarchal loans, and they realize that he's not going to be their American Tsar puppet.

Jimmy Hoffa comes to mind.

ffr

(22,672 posts)
28. As future business partners often say and do
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:57 PM
Aug 2016


How is the press missing the Russian Connection? This is explosive!

ffr

(22,672 posts)
29. Do you think PBO knows more details on this, thus today's statement?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:59 PM
Aug 2016

And the other foots going to drop here in the next few days or is this more harmless than it appears to be?

northoftheborder

(7,574 posts)
30. I'd be willing to bet a bunch that Obama and others in the administration know plenty about...
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 12:08 AM
Aug 2016

D. Trump's business dealings in Russia....

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
32. Yes.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 02:55 PM
Aug 2016

First of all, the President is in charge of distribution of the President's Daily Briefing. So President Obama is in the ultimate position to know whether or not Donald Trump held onto that classified information for all of three hours before he blabbed it.

Second, the moment that Donald Trump publicly asked the Russians to commit espionage on his behalf, a counterintelligence investigation surely went into high gear. That may well have led to the counter-hack of Russian intelligence that briefly made the news two days ago. That also would put the President in a position to know a lot more than any of us.

Third, before any of that, the press had already taken note of the Trump campaign's intervention in changing the Republican Party platform to favor the Russians. That has now bled out to reveal that one of Trump's foreign policy advisers was actually in Russia, smearing US foreign policy, before he returned to lead the effort to change the platform.

And most importantly, even though we all know Republicans well enough to recognize their small-minded automatic resistance to what the President said yesterday, what the President actually did was issue a clear warning to Republicans, telling them to change their tunes now or regret it later. That is something one would do over an impending national security problem. In mere politics, one does not offer your political enemies such an opportunity. In retrospect, the smarter of them (such as they are) will realize they were warned.

Now we see Democrats in the Senate calling for hearings, and the important thing to note here is that the Senate is in recess in an election year, or as close as Republicans will allow it to go to a recess without letting the President appoint judges. That suggests that the Senate has now been tipped off to what's going down.

And finally, Donald Trump's Twitter feed has fallen silent, and he has no business scheduled for the rest of the week. What force of nature could possibly intervene to make Donald Trump shut the hell up? Pound-me-in-the-ass prison, is what.

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