Hillary Clinton widens lead over Donald Trump in new national polls
Source: CBS News
Last Updated Aug 5, 2016 7:12 PM EDT
A week after the conclusion of the Democratic national convention, Hillary Clinton is continuing to widen her advantage over Donald Trump, according to a pair of new national polls out Friday.Last Updated Aug 5, 2016 7:12 PM EDT
A week after the conclusion of the Democratic national convention, Hillary Clinton is continuing to widen her advantage over Donald Trump, according to a pair of new national polls out Friday.
With third-party candidates included, Clinton maintains her nine-point lead: forty-three percent to Trump's 34 percent, while Libertarian party nominee Gary Johnson has 10 percent, and the Green Party's Jill Stein has five percent.
A McClatchy/Marist poll shows a more dramatic 15-point lead for Clinton: the former secretary of state has 48 percent of support among voters nationwide, versus Trump's 33 percent.
Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-widens-lead-over-donald-trump-in-new-national-polls/
Hillary's growing lead reflects increasing support from two groups - white voters and males. (OK, we're late to the party but at least we're finally getting it figured out).
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)It's the same set of polls that have been discussed in the media all week.
People, prepare for polls to tighten. This thing ain't over and her convention bounce will fade and Trump will tone it down. The pure cockiness around here based on a few polls is rather amusing.
Those of us who have been through a few presidential elections (i go back to 72!) can tell you that this thing ain't over and we have some scarier periods ahead of us.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)They won't go down easily. GOPers have always been very good at party unity. I'd be surprised if they don't get their act together this year as well, I expect them to go ballistic on the emails and Benghazi. Hopefully Hillary can figure out how to put out those fires before the attacks get too serious.
On the other hand the GOP has never had a presidential candidate the likes of tRump (one VP candidate, but never anyone at the top of their ticket). tRump is so totally unhinged that there's a possibility they won't be able to control him, if that plays out this election could turn out to be very interesting.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)Polls look good but are not dependable and can change.
Down-ticket races are important too.
Capture state Legislatures and eliminate gerrymandering with permanent commissions.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)The man is utterly incapable of toning it down. Now I agree polls will probably tighten due to other Republicans going on message and attacking Clinton but Trump is simply verbal diarrhea.
He says whatever pops into his head in the moment. As an example no (sane) politician attacks the family of a slain soldier. It is simply one of the rules. Now they might internally think bad thoughts but they smile and offer condolences for their loss and try to get it off the headlines as quickly as possible. Not drumpy, someone "attacked" him and he simply was incapable of not lashing out like a child.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)albeit it reads as insincere and under duress. His endorsement speech for Ryan/McCain/Ayotte was him toning it down, and today's commentary widely addresses how constrained and insincere he appeared in reading his text off a note card with a smirk. I agree that he will continue to erupt. But a lot of his "crazy" shit is an act. He miscalculated badly with the Khans, of course, but initially he thought attacking a Muslim family would override their gold star status-- Khizr and Ghazala Khan's unbelievable eloquence and anger could not have been as easily predicted. I think there is a method to his madness in his history of outrageousness. And it gets him his base -- angry white men, we all know the drill.
Problem is that his campaign's theory of the game (which won the primary) is that there is a silent majority of angry white people (he would always have needed angry white women, at least) who could be shaken out of the apathetic trees. That was a grand miscalculation apparently because he is losing with women and minorities (which he always expected just not at these levels) and he can't make up the difference without more educated whites, who are repulsed.
He has a big challenge: keep his base stoked and entertained and angry while also recruiting more decorous bigots from the educated classes. It doesn't look possible but I predict he gets back to a more dog-whistley form of rhetoric.
Of course he is independently thin-skinned and defensive and narcissistic so it makes sense to treat that as a disqualifying character problem (which it is) and try to bait him into further explosions. But be aware, I think, that some of those explosions have been quite controlled demolitions. Targeted, even.
Also expect dirty tricks ("we are going to raise taxes" -- and maybe the Melania immigration story is a trap) and low attacks (Bill's sexual history), and maybe wiki leaks shakes it all up again too.)
Yikes. This is not in the bag.
Paul Manafort is a dangerous man. Assume he has a plan.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)While I'm not sure any dirty trick Manafort could think up would be enough to help tRump, we still have House and Senate races to consider. If they can stir up just enough of their disgruntled voters to show up, or suppress just enough middle of the road voters to stay home they could sway the results in enough Congressional races to hold onto control.
PatrickforO
(14,578 posts)We can't take one single thing for granted.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)but he can not go too long before letting loose a rant of Trump Bull Chit that is cringe worthy!
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)Donny put out the crazy, and people now think he's nuts.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)the Olympics, yeah that's it, the Olympics!!
Some people are concerned!