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KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 06:45 AM Aug 2016

Trump backtracks on Obama as ISIL founder: 'Don't they get sarcasm?' Read more: http://www.politico

Source: Politico

After doubling down on his assertion that President Barack Obama is the “founder” of the Islamic State, Donald Trump on Friday suggested he was being sarcastic.

“Ratings challenged @CNN reports so seriously that I call President Obama (and Clinton) ‘the founder’ of ISIS, & MVP,” Trump tweeted Friday morning. “THEY DON'T GET SARCASM?”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-obama-islamic-state-sarcasm-226947#ixzz4H76mXMTj
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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-obama-islamic-state-sarcasm-226947



he is really ill.

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(1) They are habitual liars. They seem incapable of either knowing or telling the truth about anything.

(2) They are egotistical to the point of narcissism. They really believe they are set apart from the rest of humanity by some special grace.

(3) They scapegoat; they are incapable of either having the insight or willingness to accept responsibility for anything they do. Whatever the problem, it is always someone else’s fault.

(4) They are remorselessly vindictive when thwarted or exposed.

(5) Genuine religious, moral, or other values play no part in their lives. They have no empathy for others and are capable of violence. Under older psychological terminology, they fall into the category of psychopath or sociopath, but unlike the typical psychopath, their behavior is masked by a superficial social facade.

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He also says that malignant narcissists can identify with other powerful figures which allows some loyalty, for example in sadistic gangs or terrorist groups. Psychopaths are loyal to no-one except themselves.

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If these academic distinctions do not make much sense, don't worry about it. If you think you are living with a narcissist, these distinctions may not be useful. What is useful is to learn about mind control so that you are no longer affected by it.
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Trump backtracks on Obama as ISIL founder: 'Don't they get sarcasm?' Read more: http://www.politico (Original Post) KewlKat Aug 2016 OP
foot in mouth disease trusty elf Aug 2016 #1
TRUMP'S ACQUIRED A TASTE FOR SHOE LEATHER! cynzke Aug 2016 #8
Clown show oswaldactedalone Aug 2016 #2
trump staill hasn't figured out the differences between reality and reality TV beachbum bob Aug 2016 #3
From now on, the media has the duty to double-check with him whether he's being sarcastic. DetlefK Aug 2016 #4
What an idiot. How does he explain his tirade on Hugh Hewitt's radio show? George II Aug 2016 #5
Oh wow. I am totally in AWE of the depth of Mr. Trump's intellectual deftness! yellowcanine Aug 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author cntrygrl Aug 2016 #34
In his own words: Arkansas Granny Aug 2016 #7
That's the point though...he's telling us his whole cbdo2007 Aug 2016 #9
He didn't backtrack. He said everyone was wrong for not understanding him. Again.n/t jtuck004 Aug 2016 #10
Good point. He never admits to any error, no matter how slight. Chemisse Aug 2016 #14
That lying POS. Typical M.O. "I was being sarcastic. Can't you take a joke?" catbyte Aug 2016 #11
Simply put... He has no conscience world wide wally Aug 2016 #39
He has no idea how serious the job of President and Commander in Chief is liberal N proud Aug 2016 #12
Trump SOP: Say something outrageous, offensive & disgusting. baldguy Aug 2016 #13
Sarcasm. You're doing it wrong. tanyev Aug 2016 #15
Really, are you sure? whistler162 Aug 2016 #22
I know you are, but what am I? OOH, BURN!!!!!! tanyev Aug 2016 #23
That was a 3am tweet, wasn't it? I guess Ilsa Aug 2016 #16
it says 3:26 AM KewlKat Aug 2016 #19
The only thing left for Manafort and The Trump Kids is to break the old man's fingers so he can't TeamPooka Aug 2016 #44
It's easy to figure out Trump jmowreader Aug 2016 #46
McFaul has tweeted that Russian bloggers are pushing the "Obama Ilsa Aug 2016 #17
Donald Trump is a Russian dupe. He's The Tanchurian Candidate. nt TeamPooka Aug 2016 #45
Yes, it was sarcasm. Vattel Aug 2016 #18
thanks.. rather surprised that so annabanana Aug 2016 #26
He says it enough times to get it engrained into his followers heads... Chicago1980 Aug 2016 #20
"Sarcasm? I do not think it means what you think it means." (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2016 #21
Lots of countries in this world..... MissMillie Aug 2016 #24
Fallback position #1, "I never said that. the media is lying." Nitram Aug 2016 #25
Really, Donnie, it's your supporters who don't get sarcasm. sinkingfeeling Aug 2016 #27
For the record, W and his cronies created Isis when they disbanded the Iraqi army Dustlawyer Aug 2016 #28
+1 Botany Aug 2016 #31
It is always just a joke from donald Botany Aug 2016 #29
sarcasm smarcasm, this is just ass covering bullshit, plain and simple. downeastdaniel Aug 2016 #30
Its so lame claiming shitty things you say are"just a joke" Bucky Aug 2016 #32
I was just watching a CNBC interview where he said 'Obama is the founder of ISIS' Mc Mike Aug 2016 #33
What is he? 8? Iggo Aug 2016 #35
I went to the free republic to see what they were thinking Doctor Jack Aug 2016 #36
Wow. They are getting desperate. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2016 #37
Why Abandon Russian Propaganda Now TomCADem Aug 2016 #38
Silly you! Trump's calling his "founded ISIS" comments sarcasm... bcoley Aug 2016 #40
It was a pun! truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #41
He's having a meltdown MelSC Aug 2016 #42
As soon as I saw him say that..... bobGandolf Aug 2016 #43

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
8. TRUMP'S ACQUIRED A TASTE FOR SHOE LEATHER!
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:10 AM
Aug 2016

And reading the descriptions, Donald is not really interested in becoming POTUS. He is a cult leader in NEED of a CULT FOLLOWING.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
2. Clown show
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 06:50 AM
Aug 2016

Are you 'effin kidding me? And human beings with gray matter in their skull will actually vote for this scumbag.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. trump staill hasn't figured out the differences between reality and reality TV
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 06:51 AM
Aug 2016

......there are no "retakes" when you are running for president and.....words do matter

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. From now on, the media has the duty to double-check with him whether he's being sarcastic.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 06:58 AM
Aug 2016

Every. Single. Time.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
6. Oh wow. I am totally in AWE of the depth of Mr. Trump's intellectual deftness!
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:06 AM
Aug 2016

Just to show you what actual looks like, Donald.

Response to yellowcanine (Reply #6)

Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
7. In his own words:
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:10 AM
Aug 2016
Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Thursday that he meant exactly what he said when he called President Barack Obama the "founder of ISIS" and objected when a conservative radio show host tried to clarify the GOP nominee's position.

Trump was asked by host Hugh Hewitt about the comments Trump made Wednesday night in Florida, and Hewitt said he understood Trump to mean "that he (Obama) created the vacuum, he lost the peace."

Trump objected.
"No, I meant he's the founder of ISIS," Trump said. "I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/donald-trump-hugh-hewitt-obama-founder-isis/

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
9. That's the point though...he's telling us his whole
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:19 AM
Aug 2016

Campaign is sarcasm and is a big joke on the american people and that everyone falling for it is a dummy.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
14. Good point. He never admits to any error, no matter how slight.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:48 AM
Aug 2016

It's always someone else's fault - they misunderstood him!

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
11. That lying POS. Typical M.O. "I was being sarcastic. Can't you take a joke?"
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:28 AM
Aug 2016

He's such a textbook example of a bully coward. He practically calls for Hillary Clinton's assassination, tells vile lies about President Obama, then whines and moans that he was "viciously attacked" by a guy holding up the Constitution asking him if he's read it.

Trump is the most vile thing I've ever seen. He is the worst of the worst.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
39. Simply put... He has no conscience
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:05 AM
Aug 2016

That's why he can lie over and over and he doesn't care if he gets busted at it.
His money will cover for him.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
12. He has no idea how serious the job of President and Commander in Chief is
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:30 AM
Aug 2016

He thinks the whole thing is just one big joke.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
13. Trump SOP: Say something outrageous, offensive & disgusting.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:31 AM
Aug 2016

After criticism, double-down on it thinking that people will come around. And when that still doesn't work, THEN say "What's the matter with you people? It was all a joke."

What a sad, sick, pathetic little man.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
16. That was a 3am tweet, wasn't it? I guess
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:50 AM
Aug 2016

After getting talked to by his campaign and getting 2 hours sleep, he realized that his rhetoric for the last two days showed him to be off his rocker.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
19. it says 3:26 AM
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:04 AM
Aug 2016

Here is his latest tweet

Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 20m20 minutes ago

I love watching these poor, pathetic people (pundits) on television working so hard and so seriously to try and figure me out. They can't!

TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
44. The only thing left for Manafort and The Trump Kids is to break the old man's fingers so he can't
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:54 PM
Aug 2016

tweet.
and they'll need a ballgag to shut him up.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
46. It's easy to figure out Trump
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:04 PM
Aug 2016

Z72.811 adult antisocial personality disorder, T74.31XD adult psychological abuse by nonspouse or nonpartner, F90.1 ADHD combined presentation, Z59.6 low income, Z76.5 malingering, F45.22 body dysmorphia (hand size), F42 OCD, F60.0 paranoia...

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
17. McFaul has tweeted that Russian bloggers are pushing the "Obama
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:52 AM
Aug 2016

... created ISIS" meme. Russia is directing Trump's talking points.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
18. Yes, it was sarcasm.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:00 AM
Aug 2016

His real message was, "Vote for me because Obama didn't found ISIL." That makes sense.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
20. He says it enough times to get it engrained into his followers heads...
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:12 AM
Aug 2016

Then he pivots.

And why did Martha Raddatz on GMA just say that, "ISIL did get stronger during Clintons tenure of SOS"?

MissMillie

(38,559 posts)
24. Lots of countries in this world.....
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:35 AM
Aug 2016

and given syntax and subtly and cultural differences, many of them are not going to "get sarcasm."

Mr. Trump, you are incapable of filtering yourself and from learning from you mistakes.

Your mouth is going to start a war. I'm guessing you're okay w/ that. Your kids won't serve, and it will feed the the military industrial complex which will suit your base just fine.

Nitram

(22,802 posts)
25. Fallback position #1, "I never said that. the media is lying."
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:44 AM
Aug 2016

Fallback position #2, "I was just kidding." Fallback position #3, "A 2nd Amendment solution."

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
28. For the record, W and his cronies created Isis when they disbanded the Iraqi army
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:25 AM
Aug 2016

and set those guys adrift. The larger cause was going into Iraq in the first place so that Haliburton and other oil and pipeline companies could come in. It needs to be said over and over again and at least everytime this Trump story is discussed.

It pisses me off that our corporate media is allowed to discuss this issue without bringing up W. We have to call out their poor reporting everytime!

Botany

(70,508 posts)
31. +1
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:41 AM
Aug 2016

We invade Iraq, ambassador Bremer sends the Iraqi army (sunni) home (w/their guns),
some of them become al qaeda in Iraq, the US backed government (Shi) screws with
the Sunnis, and then al qaeda in Iraq morphs into ISIS.

France warned us about "blow back" from a war in Iraq and what did many Americans
do? Freedom Fries.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
29. It is always just a joke from donald
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:33 AM
Aug 2016

russia trying to interfere with an American election .... just a joke

assassination of a President Hillary Clinton .... just a joke

No campiagn staff, workers, or offices as he is running for President .... just a joke





Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
33. I was just watching a CNBC interview where he said 'Obama is the founder of ISIS'
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:49 AM
Aug 2016

and 'Clinton was the co-founder of ISIS', over and over again. The clip was from a 'Young Turks' analysis, 8/11, where they transposed his robotic repetition of that 'fact' with South Carolina Sen candidate Alvin Greene's robotic repetitive statements on the Laurence O'Donnell show.

I don't know when the CNBC interview was given, but he was serious, saying it seriously over and over again. Another etch a sketch moment from the dRumpf campaign.

Iggo

(47,553 posts)
35. What is he? 8?
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:05 AM
Aug 2016

He's a goddam embarrassment. I'm glad he's gonna get trounced.

GOTV, people. Let's send 'em all packing.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
36. I went to the free republic to see what they were thinking
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:12 AM
Aug 2016

I put on my biohazard suit and ventured in. They are claiming this is part of some 7 dimensional chess strategy, jedi mind trick level stuff. They say trump has clinton right where he wants her...which is up by double digits with a massive ground operation and tens of millions more dollars.

Poor lost fools

bcoley

(3 posts)
40. Silly you! Trump's calling his "founded ISIS" comments sarcasm...
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:45 AM
Aug 2016

...was just sarcasm!... As was that sentence... and that one... and that one..........

bobGandolf

(871 posts)
43. As soon as I saw him say that.....
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:40 PM
Aug 2016

I knew something like his, "sarcasm" response would come out.
He is such a gnat.

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