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ericson00

(2,707 posts)
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:55 PM Aug 2016

TSA agents find a 3-D printed revolver in a carry-on bag, confiscate it

Source: Washington Post

The TSA says a plastic revolver assembled with a 3-D printer was among the 68 firearms the agency confiscated from carry-ons around the country during the week ending Aug. 5.

TSA agents discovered the weapon in a passenger’s luggage during screening at the Reno-Tahoe International Airport. The gun was a replica, but was loaded with five live .22-caliber bullets, the agency said.

The fact that it was inoperable didn’t matter, the TSA said. Fake guns are treated just like real ones — permitted in checked bags, but banned in carry-ons.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/12/tsa-agents-find-a-3-d-printed-revolver-in-a-carry-on-bag-confiscate-it/



this is lunacy; the gov needs to step in to stop 3D printing from becoming a nightmare; it has so much potential that the NRA should not be able to hijack.
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TSA agents find a 3-D printed revolver in a carry-on bag, confiscate it (Original Post) ericson00 Aug 2016 OP
And what do you suppose they do? yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #1
Hear, hear. forest444 Aug 2016 #20
You can practically get guns out of gumball machines in this country. Why print one? Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2016 #2
If you're a convicted felon you can't legally buy one. christx30 Aug 2016 #3
If you're a convicted felon and want to bring a gun on to a plane... tinrobot Aug 2016 #6
Agreed. Most likely if you're in that situation, christx30 Aug 2016 #9
Matt Bors is on it already. Jerry442 Aug 2016 #4
But only one gets past a metal detector mahina Aug 2016 #5
Now if we could only print some plastic bullets... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #13
I am aware, but bullets can be kept separately. mahina Aug 2016 #15
Except they don't. Statistical Aug 2016 #21
+1 Auggie Aug 2016 #7
Several reasons. Daemonaquila Aug 2016 #12
Dillinger made a gun discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2016 #14
Oh brother. There is no danger from 3D printing. Daemonaquila Aug 2016 #8
legal restrictions will only stop the law abiding Angel Martin Aug 2016 #17
Good that they caught it IronLionZion Aug 2016 #10
Better do something about those CNC machines too. PersonNumber503602 Aug 2016 #11
and pipes melm00se Aug 2016 #16
The TSA actually found something? PatSeg Aug 2016 #18
It's interesting that it was a revolver, which negates the need for metal springs NickB79 Aug 2016 #19
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. And what do you suppose they do?
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:02 PM
Aug 2016

Ban 3D printers? That's not going to happen. Seems the TSA did their job.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
20. Hear, hear.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:58 PM
Aug 2016

I once had a bottle of vitamins confiscated because - well, how the hell do I know. This yahoo should have certainly known better than to pull a stunt like that.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,838 posts)
2. You can practically get guns out of gumball machines in this country. Why print one?
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:08 PM
Aug 2016

Unless maybe there's a reason to want a gun with zero history.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
3. If you're a convicted felon you can't legally buy one.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:19 PM
Aug 2016

If you can't find a straw buyer for it, or some other source, you're pretty much out of your chosen profession. But if you can get online and download the schematics, you're covered.
yay technology.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
6. If you're a convicted felon and want to bring a gun on to a plane...
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:26 PM
Aug 2016

...then buying the gun legally is the least of your problems.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
9. Agreed. Most likely if you're in that situation,
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:32 PM
Aug 2016

you grabbed your razor, travel sized shampoo, tooth brush, but you left your brain sitting at home.

mahina

(17,660 posts)
15. I am aware, but bullets can be kept separately.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:28 PM
Aug 2016

People can check on rifles, and do so all the time. Just noting that there is a key difference.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
21. Except they don't.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:33 PM
Aug 2016

Firing pin is metal and most designs use metal barrel or at least a metal chamber as plastic tends not to hold up to firings. The ammo is also metal. So plenty of metal to set of metal detector.

There are also 3D printed metal guns which can be printed using metal powder and lasers that are far more capable but they are obviously metal.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
12. Several reasons.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:40 PM
Aug 2016

1. Curiosity. A lot of the Maker community likes to push technology to its limits. One of the limits of 3D printing is whether you could actually make such a gun work, and not blow itself apart.

2. Preppers/paranoiacs. A subset of people trying to make guns like this expect that any day the goobermint is going to take away their toys, or civilization will come to an end and they won't be able to get one. Solution? Make guns. Never mind that in any scenario where civilization falls apart you won't have the materials or electricity to run a printer... or that if the goobermint was going to grab their guns, officials would have the brain power to also track purchases of the necessarily very large amounts of the materials used to make relatively well working printed guns.

3.

Ok, there isn't a real #3. You don't need to print a gun to erase its history. Either way, illegal, so why not just buy one and remove identifying marks. Really, most people actually doing it are hobbyists who both like guns and are fascinated by the potentials of 3D printing.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
14. Dillinger made a gun
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:57 PM
Aug 2016
Dillinger was arrested in Tucson, Arizona in January 1934, after locals recognized a few of his heavily wanted accomplices. Following a flurry of media coverage, he was extradited to Indiana and confined to the jail in Crown Point to await trial. Authorities boasted that the jail was escape proof, but Dillinger would only remain a resident for a little over a month. On March 3, 1934, he forced his way out of the main cellblock by brandishing a phony gun. Dillinger claimed he had fashioned it from a block of wood, a razor handle and a coat of black shoe polish, but reports would later suggest it was smuggled into the prison by one of his attorneys. In any case, Dillinger used the wooden pistol to round up several guards and get his hands on a Thompson submachine gun. Once armed with real firepower, he made his way to the prison garage, stole the sheriff’s personal police car and motored to Chicago. Amazingly, Dillinger was back in action only three days later, teaming with gangster Baby Face Nelson and others to knock over a bank in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
8. Oh brother. There is no danger from 3D printing.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:32 PM
Aug 2016

At best, it's just another manufacturing method. In time, I'll bet that most small goods will be made this way, at least in part, by a lot of companies.

3D printed guns do not pose any additional danger - except to anyone dumb enough to use them. They're really good at flying into pieces. If you want to ban 3D printing because someone made a stupid plastic replica, which was easily detected, you might as well go all the way and start advocating that nobody be allowed to make anything at all at home. After all, someone might carve a great replica gun!

People can easily build guns, and they don't need a 3D printer to do it. It's already illegal.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
10. Good that they caught it
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:36 PM
Aug 2016

even if the gun is plastic, the ammunition would be metal. I would hope the metal detectors would get it. And if it's in a bag then the visual screeners would hopefully see a gun shaped object and check it out by hand.

Since they let him go without punishment, I can definitely guess what he looked like.

NickB79

(19,246 posts)
19. It's interesting that it was a revolver, which negates the need for metal springs
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:08 PM
Aug 2016

That was one of the limiting factors in building an all-plastic gun: you need metal springs to get the action and magazine to function on a plastic semi-automatic handgun.

Now if the firing pin were made of a plastic hard enough to set off the primer in the cartridge, it would be entirely metal-free (except for the actual ammunition).

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