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Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:55 PM Aug 2016

Giuliani: I Didn't Forget 9/11, I Was Using ‘Abbreviated Language’

Source: TPM

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani said Tuesday that he was using “abbreviated language” when he claimed that the U.S. had seen no terror attacks carried out by Islamic extremists before President Barack Obama came into office.

"You speak in somewhat abbreviated language," he told the New York Daily News by way of explaining his Monday introduction for Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Youngstown, Ohio. "All human beings speak in abbreviated language at times."

Given Giuliani’s frequent invocations in public appearances of his experience as mayor during 9/11, reporters immediately noticed when he said that the threat from terrorist groups “started” when Obama took office in 2009.

“Under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack inside the United States,” he told the crowd in Ohio.

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Come on people, he was just being sarcastic
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Giuliani: I Didn't Forget 9/11, I Was Using ‘Abbreviated Language’ (Original Post) Rocknrule Aug 2016 OP
What the %&^%^ does that mean? liberal N proud Aug 2016 #1
You know like saying to Rudy whistler162 Aug 2016 #7
It's a cousin to "I was just being sarcastic." Or "I was only being a little sarcastic." MADem Aug 2016 #15
He knows cousins pretty well. nt Maine-i-acs Aug 2016 #65
So, "Abbreviated Language" is code word for razzle dazzle lying? Siwsan Aug 2016 #2
another Trump hemorrhoid Angry Dragon Aug 2016 #3
What does that even mean, yesphan Aug 2016 #4
Look people, Rocknrule Aug 2016 #5
! JenniferJuniper Aug 2016 #31
WTH... wcmagumba Aug 2016 #6
WTH does that even mean? Botany Aug 2016 #50
He's just saying LiberalLovinLug Aug 2016 #58
Abrreviated, eh? Well then give me the long version, Fuck-O. Iggo Aug 2016 #8
This is getting complicated matt819 Aug 2016 #9
Purposely lying awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #67
They just babble, ramble, spew, bloviate, etc. titaniumsalute Aug 2016 #10
conservative brain rot is truly setting in-- they gotten away with too much shit for too long Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #53
He is a vile sack of shit. rivegauche Aug 2016 #11
Oh, and "Bush kept us safe" Rocknrule Aug 2016 #12
But Rudy you were so brave that day. You and Bernie Kerik saved the city. underpants Aug 2016 #13
No, Rudy, you shoved your foot into your lying gob Warpy Aug 2016 #14
He was actually using "abbreviated thinking"... skypilot Aug 2016 #16
once an asshole, always an asshole. nt Javaman Aug 2016 #17
Is Guliani Italian for Moron? mdbl Aug 2016 #18
"Abbreviated Language"? From the same guy who couldn't stop chastising Hillary for saying... timlot Aug 2016 #19
so he thinks people can't do basic math? yurbud Aug 2016 #20
Damn that Obama and his time machine! Rocknrule Aug 2016 #23
aka a watch yurbud Aug 2016 #60
‘Abbreviated Language’ is the new lying. bagelsforbreakfast Aug 2016 #21
Notice how many of them started using "short circuit" last week only hours after Clinton said it? George II Aug 2016 #26
Yeah, he "abbreviated" the truth right out of the language. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #22
GOP can't claim to be tough on terror when they let Saudi go punpunished yurbud Aug 2016 #24
My wife asked - "what the heck is abbreviated language", I answered "you can lie and get... George II Aug 2016 #25
"All human beings speak in abbreviated language at times." Even if they don't know what it means? George II Aug 2016 #27
"All human beings speak in abbreviated language at times." Right Rudy. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #28
"I didn't forget 9/11. I hardly would. I almost died in it," he said. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #29
Okay Rudy. Probably time to stop digging now. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #30
so the "beltway sniper" wasn't a terrorist? 0rganism Aug 2016 #32
Nor the anthrax attacks. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2016 #43
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2016 #33
Abbreviating language is done in such a way as to maintain accuracy of statement. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #34
Repub Speak mysuzuki2 Aug 2016 #35
If I robbed a bank, could I call it an abbreviated withdrawal? jmondine Aug 2016 #36
When Hillary used abbreviated language to answer reporter about FBI and emails she was labeled blm Aug 2016 #37
Sure in NY we have a shorthand way of communicating... SticksnStones Aug 2016 #38
Is abbreviated language like... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #39
Apologies to Seinfeld oldtime dfl_er Aug 2016 #40
Abbreviated language means Wibly Aug 2016 #41
No, Rudy that is lying followed by more lying MurrayDelph Aug 2016 #42
Yeah, right. Solly Mack Aug 2016 #44
Hey, I can use "abbreviated language" too Rocknrule Aug 2016 #45
Abbreviated language? sarge43 Aug 2016 #46
Rudy didn't abbreviate himself enough. The man needs to shut up and sit down. ancianita Aug 2016 #47
What a POS Blue Owl Aug 2016 #48
OK. F U, R.G.! Fritz Walter Aug 2016 #49
So in other words? You were just full of shit Thrill Aug 2016 #51
So, is "abbreviated language" the latest repuke phrase?? ailsagirl Aug 2016 #52
Fuck Ghouliani geardaddy Aug 2016 #54
"I didn't forget 9/11. I hardly would. I almost died in it," he said. left-of-center2012 Aug 2016 #55
The place where he usually banged his mistress fell down all by itself. sofa king Aug 2016 #68
I once broke a bed while having ... well, I once broke a bed. n/t left-of-center2012 Aug 2016 #72
He be tripping again SheriffBob Aug 2016 #56
He wants abbreviated language? Here's my equally abbreviated language. pnwmom Aug 2016 #57
I think Giuliani's frontal cortex abbreviated. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #59
LIEbral media strikes again: He said "INEBRIATED language" not abbreviated! DRoseDARs Aug 2016 #61
Nosferatu ain't no human being JenniferJuniper Aug 2016 #62
Is that the latest euphemism for telling a lie? LeftishBrit Aug 2016 #63
lying not abreviated language! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2016 #64
Here's an abbreviation for him, STFU!!! Thor_MN Aug 2016 #66
That doesn't even make any sense. Quantess Aug 2016 #69
idiot Skittles Aug 2016 #70
Apparently Alzheimer's is catching. truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #71

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
1. What the %&^%^ does that mean?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:59 PM
Aug 2016

abbreviated language? Does that mean you only consider what you want to consider when talking regardless of the facts?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. It's a cousin to "I was just being sarcastic." Or "I was only being a little sarcastic."
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:06 PM
Aug 2016

In other words, he was caught with bullshit coming outta his mouth, and he's trying to play the "Look over there" game.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
5. Look people,
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:02 PM
Aug 2016

Bush wasn't inaugurated until 9/12/2001, the day after Barack Obama and Saddam Hussein flew planes into the WTC while Clinton was reading My Pet Goat to a first grade class and simultaneously having his dick sucked by Monica. Bush later on destroyed nukes and other WMDs in the Iraq War that ended within weeks after the Iraq invasion. Thanks to Bush, bin Laden was captured and killed in 2002 in Afghanistan....not nearly a decade later in Pakistan. There is so much Dem propaganda out there that voters are drowning in it. Best just to tune in to Fox News to keep you indoctrinated in the TRUTH.



wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
6. WTH...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:02 PM
Aug 2016

does that even mean? Forgot to mention the biggest terror attack in US history, while he was mayor, because he used "abbreviated" langage...Here's some abbreviated language for you Rudy, FU. I just hope he has his Ovaltine decoder ring next time....

Botany

(70,516 posts)
50. WTH does that even mean?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:02 PM
Aug 2016

It means language that has been abbreviated.

abbreviated
[uh-bree-vee-ey-tid]
Spell Syllables
Synonyms Examples Word Origin
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adjective
1.
shortened; made briefer:
The rain led to an abbreviated picnic.
2.
(of clothing) scanty; barely covering the body:
an abbreviated bathing suit.
3.
constituting a shorter or smaller version of:
The large car was an abbreviated limousine.


language
[lang-gwij]
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noun
1.
a body of words and the systems for their use common to a people who are of the same community or nation, the same geographical area, or the same cultural tradition:
the two languages of Belgium; a Bantu language; the French language; the Yiddish language.
2.
communication by voice in the distinctively human manner, using arbitrary sounds in conventional ways with conventional meanings; speech.
3.
the system of linguistic signs or symbols considered in the abstract (opposed to speech ).
4.
any set or system of such symbols as used in a more or less uniform fashion by a number of people, who are thus enabled to communicate intelligibly with one another.
5.
any system of formalized symbols, signs, sounds, gestures, or the like used or conceived as a means of communicating thought, emotion, etc.:
the language of mathematics; sign language.
6.
the means of communication used by animals:
the language of birds.
7.
communication of meaning in any way; medium that is expressive, significant, etc.:
the language of flowers; the language of art.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
58. He's just saying
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:27 PM
Aug 2016

His statement was abbreviated. He just ran out of time to make a complete one... He's a busy man.
He obviously meant to complete it with..."EXCEPT for that one time" Come on people work with him here.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
9. This is getting complicated
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:03 PM
Aug 2016

So now we have to figure out:

Are these buffoons making a death threat or a joke?

Are these morons being sarcastic or do they really mean the stupid things they say?

Now we have to figure out whether they're using abbreviated speech. Is this like pig Latin?

If they would just preface each sentence accordingly, this would be so much easier.

Now I am making a funny.
Now I'm being ironic
And now I'm being sarcastic.
The next sentence is abbreviated speech.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
10. They just babble, ramble, spew, bloviate, etc.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:03 PM
Aug 2016

I have never seen anything like it. The right, especially Trump's minions, are just randomly saying shit. Making stuff up, bloviating, pounding lecterns, spewing random thoughts. The sheep in the crowd and who watch Fox Snooze eat it up no matter what. Hey if they get caught, like the former dickhead Mayor of NYC, they backtrack with something else stupid and random.

I really think their collective cheese has slid off the salt cracker.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
53. conservative brain rot is truly setting in-- they gotten away with too much shit for too long
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:10 PM
Aug 2016

and their brains have literally deteriorated.

rivegauche

(601 posts)
11. He is a vile sack of shit.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:05 PM
Aug 2016

I'm a New Yorker and I remember what a disgusting garbage mayor he was. Total fascist, a liar, a misogynist and a racist. FUCK HIM.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
12. Oh, and "Bush kept us safe"
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:05 PM
Aug 2016

That's like saying "I'm a virgin, except for that one weekend-long orgy in college"

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
14. No, Rudy, you shoved your foot into your lying gob
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:05 PM
Aug 2016

and the whole country saw and heard you do it.

It's time to retire. Now piss off.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
19. "Abbreviated Language"? From the same guy who couldn't stop chastising Hillary for saying...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:10 PM
Aug 2016

"Short Circuited it". Politicians should just stop using adjectives to describe their misstatements.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
21. ‘Abbreviated Language’ is the new lying.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:13 PM
Aug 2016

Apparently ‘Abbreviated Language’ is the new lying.

Poll - how many Trump surrogates will use the phrase "abreviated language" in an interview this week?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
24. GOP can't claim to be tough on terror when they let Saudi go punpunished
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:16 PM
Aug 2016

For their government's role in the attacks.

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. My wife asked - "what the heck is abbreviated language", I answered "you can lie and get...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:21 PM
Aug 2016

...away with it."

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
28. "All human beings speak in abbreviated language at times." Right Rudy.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:29 PM
Aug 2016

Particularly when you are trying to score political points.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
29. "I didn't forget 9/11. I hardly would. I almost died in it," he said.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:34 PM
Aug 2016

So - he was at ground zero when the planes hit? Otherwise he is an effing liar.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
32. so the "beltway sniper" wasn't a terrorist?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:39 PM
Aug 2016

or was insufficiently islamic?
or insufficiently radical?

fascinating. this abbreviation thing is more complicated than i thought.

Response to Rocknrule (Original post)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. Abbreviating language is done in such a way as to maintain accuracy of statement.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:43 PM
Aug 2016

Abbreviating language is done in such a way as to maintain accuracy of statement, yet truncates the sentiment. His did neither.

Hence, I'm forced to conclude his is either a lie or this career politician is simply an incompetent speaker.

Weight of evidence suggest he is not in fact, an incompetent speaker; which leaves me with... he simply lied.

blm

(113,065 posts)
37. When Hillary used abbreviated language to answer reporter about FBI and emails she was labeled
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:56 PM
Aug 2016

a liar by Republicans, every RW media outlet, and most of the corpmedia that furthered the RW narrative.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
38. Sure in NY we have a shorthand way of communicating...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:03 PM
Aug 2016
Abbreviated if you will.

In fact, in NY, we use abbreviated language often. Like this: Jeetyet? Nawdjou? Lesqweet.

(It translates to: Did you eat yet? No, did you? Let's go eat.)

I'm pretty sure Rudy wasn't doing that.





Wibly

(613 posts)
41. Abbreviated language means
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:36 PM
Aug 2016

Lying with the intent to smear.
Then covering up the fact you're senile by coming up with new political terminology like: "abbreviated language".

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
52. So, is "abbreviated language" the latest repuke phrase??
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:09 PM
Aug 2016

Along with "extreme vetting?"

I can hardly keep up!!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
57. He wants abbreviated language? Here's my equally abbreviated language.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:18 PM
Aug 2016

His 21 word version:

“Under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn't have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack inside the United States,”


My 21 word version:

Under those eight years before Obama, fewer than 4000 Americans died after a radical Islamic terrorist attack inside the United States.
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