Trump claims his golf courses are worth tens of millions. Until the tax bill arrives
Source: Washington Post
When Donald Trump submitted financial disclosure forms to election regulators, he bragged that his portfolio included some of the finest and most iconic properties in the world. Among them was Trump National Golf Club Jupiter in Jupiter, Fla., which Trump valued at more than $50 million.
That came as a surprise to officials in Palm Beach County, where the golf course is located. A few months earlier, for the third straight year, Trumps attorney had gone to court to argue that, for the sake of calculating his tax bill, the property was worth no more than $5 million.
A Washington Post review of local property records revealed the same pattern across most of Trumps U.S. golf courses. For eight of the 10 courses on which he pays taxes, Trump reported in his May filing to the Federal Election Commission that the courses were worth tens of millions of dollars even as his attorneys have pressed local tax officials to value the properties at a fraction of those amounts.
The contrasting figures add to the mystery surrounding Trumps personal finances, which have emerged as a campaign issue as he has refused to release his tax returns. And they reflect what critics say is Trumps willingness to calibrate his wealth claims depending on the circumstances going high to impress voters and back up his claim that he is worth $10 billion, a figure questioned by many experts, and going lower to argue for smaller tax bills.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-much-does-trump-claim-his-golf-courses-are-worth-it-depends-who-needs-to-know/2016/08/21/71828f3a-5f3c-11e6-9d2f-b1a3564181a1_story.html
Thank god for the print media. The New York Times and the Washington Post are doing damned fine reporting on Trump. Television news, on the other hand, not so much.
Maybe, just maybe, Trump is going to be smoked out on his finances by a combination of the NYT, the Washington Post, and Clinton's own Opposition research team. I look for her to drop a bombshell or two during the first debate.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,188 posts)I bet those courses are worth tens of millions when he uses them as collateral for a loan.
kennetha
(3,666 posts)He's pure snake oil.
Roy Rolling
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|Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The land is worth what somebody else is willing to pay for it. A golf course is worth the NPV of all future cash flows.
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)There are many other considerations. For a struggling course, that reflects a small number. But if that course is a prime parcel for redevelopment, that equity enhances the value for tax purposes. I would think the county should have experience and a method of appraising real estate containing commercial enterprises.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)If you have a $50 million dollar business on a $5 million property (value of land and structures), for property tax purposes, it's worth $5 million. Earnings are taxed as income, not as property value. Apple's property tax in Cupertino is the same whether they sell a 250 thousand dollars' worth of product or 250 million dollars' worth. The value of a business has no impact on the tax value of the property.
TheBlackAdder
(28,194 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)But only when it benefits him to say so.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Can't remember who off hand.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)Profits for the industry have gone down. The number of golf courses has declined, too.
Trump's courses may not make any profit at all. And, as we always have to ask with Donald, what's his debt load? He never subtracts his businesses' debts when pretending to calculate their net worth.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)same with other golf courses
" Take Trump National-Westchester in the suburbs northeast of New York City, which Trump valued on his candidacy filings at more than $50 million. According to the Town of Ossining, the property is taxed at a much lower valuation of $14.3 million, and yet Trump is still fighting the town, insisting his course is worth a mere $1.4 million.
" If Trump gets his way, the developer would only have to pay Ossining a mere $47,000 in property taxes, according to The Journal News, down from the $471,000 the town would like to charge him, which is still far below the $1.7 million Trump would have to pay a year if the property were valued same as it was on his own net worth statement. The biggest loser could be Ossinings school district, which will be left with $255,000 less if Trump wins his fight with the town. Not to mention the costs to the city for defending the valuation. A property expert alone cost the town $25,000 at the last hearing, according to assessor Fernando Gonzalez.
That means tens of thousands of dollars in lost tax revenue, plus thousands of dollars in costs even if the town ends up being right."
http://fortune.com/2016/05/17/donald-trump-golf-taxes-mar-a-lago-national-golf-day/
Don overvalue 's a property at same time cheats towns of tax money that could do a lot of good ... roads , bridges , schools etc ..
Bernardo de La Paz
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