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brooklynite

(94,537 posts)
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:23 PM Aug 2016

Trump Campaign Manager: We’re Actually Winning Right Now, Because of ‘Undercover Trump Voters’

Source: Mediaite

Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway told the UK’s Channel 4 that Donald Trump is actually winning the election, but every poll is wrong because Trump voters are undercover.

Conway denied on the Channel 4 special “President Trump: Can He Really Win?” that Trump was losing and denounced the polls that showed him down to Hillary Clinton as “cherry-picked polling numbers that are put out there by media outlets that are also bent on his destruction.”

“Donald Trump performs consistently better in online polling where a human being is not talking to another human being about what he or she may do in the election,” she argued. “It’s because it’s become socially desirable, if you’re a college educated person in the United States of America, to say that you’re against Donald Trump.”

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-campaign-manager-were-actually-winning-right-now-because-of-undercover-trump-voters/

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Trump Campaign Manager: We’re Actually Winning Right Now, Because of ‘Undercover Trump Voters’ (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2016 OP
)%":;::((__ . . . . . . Iliyah Aug 2016 #1
5th Columnists jpak Aug 2016 #38
Does this make any sense at all? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #2
EXACTLY!!! My thoughts too! If he is THAT bad, how exactly is he "winning"???? Moostache Aug 2016 #19
It does to Limbaugh fans underpants Aug 2016 #21
Yes, "undercover Trump voter" = "secret bigot" William Seger Aug 2016 #31
O perhaps, a figment of a tabulating machine's imagination. forest444 Aug 2016 #43
Even to an unknown pollster. nt Qutzupalotl Aug 2016 #46
I seriously doubt that Trump is actually ahead Angel Martin Aug 2016 #55
secret pollers bora13 Aug 2016 #3
online polling...snicker hibbing Aug 2016 #4
Sounds just like what Romney's campaign was saying... procon Aug 2016 #5
Exactly. charlyvi Aug 2016 #6
Yep. Trump's "look at the size of my crowds" is much like Romney's pollsters underpants Aug 2016 #22
Maybe all these new people Trump brought in are actually running a con game on him. procon Aug 2016 #29
Winning results from online polling SticksnStones Aug 2016 #7
$129,000 in August on free youtube videos? Sunlei Aug 2016 #12
Republican donors surely have. SticksnStones Aug 2016 #15
8 million for online advertising/consulting?????!!!?? wow secondwind Aug 2016 #24
It does make one curious for an expansion of detail, doesn't it? n/t SticksnStones Aug 2016 #28
Payments to Breitbart, trolls, and Russian hackers anneboleyn Aug 2016 #51
They spent TWO MILLION ON TRUMP HATS AND TSHIRTS? Bizarre. anneboleyn Aug 2016 #49
$8 million for "digital consulting" = payments to Trump troll army and Russian hackers anneboleyn Aug 2016 #50
To quote Rob Reiner's mother in When Harry Met Sally.... Friend or Foe Aug 2016 #8
Sounds like DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION. Rustyeye77 Aug 2016 #9
You mean, we can vote for Trump TWICE? WooHoo! JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #44
Kellyanne Conway failed bigtime with Cruz.11 million PAC money & sent to trump as a parting gift Sunlei Aug 2016 #10
Undercover Trumper, midnight fantasy Frank Cannon Aug 2016 #11
Undercover voters? They're committing fraud? rocktivity Aug 2016 #13
How could we lose Hunter S Thompson, Kurt Vonnegut truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #14
They've admitted it bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #16
I just LOVE this line! bellmartin Aug 2016 #17
Undercover voters. Yeah, that's the ticket! Eugene Aug 2016 #18
The are on Double BillyBobBrilliant Aug 2016 #20
Since when are online polls accurate or predictable? secondwind Aug 2016 #23
Trump believes the Drudge "polls" lmfao anneboleyn Aug 2016 #48
She is an educated professional pollster ToxMarz Aug 2016 #25
tRump's Campaign Manager is Afraid To Tell tRump Bad News. Wolf Frankula Aug 2016 #26
"Undercover Voters" = Open admission of cheating Eagle_Eye Aug 2016 #27
They are Secret Ninja Mystery Voters! SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #30
Makes no sense at all. SummerSnow Aug 2016 #32
This... Tikki Aug 2016 #33
Let's see ''undercover voters"? That would be the ones too ashamed to admit they're voting for him? YOHABLO Aug 2016 #34
Because it's POLITICALLY CORRECT for Trump & Pence to be ahead bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #35
She has her head somewhere Marthe48 Aug 2016 #36
He's absolutely correct--when they have their hoods on, they are undercover. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #37
People are ashamed to admit they are voting for Trump Democat Aug 2016 #39
Oooh, that Kellyanne Firestorm49 Aug 2016 #40
like eastwood's emtpy chair patsimp Aug 2016 #41
Winning! tanyev Aug 2016 #42
The new "Silent Majority"? nt JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #45
She believes that America is much sicker than it professes to be. truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #47
There is nooooo chance. onecaliberal Aug 2016 #52
New on NBC this fall, it's "Undercover Voters" n/t Kennah Aug 2016 #53
Oh yeah, the Democrats are the "in crowd" Zing Zing Zingbah Aug 2016 #54
how very Orwellian, olddad56 Aug 2016 #56
Like Secret Shoppers? TipTok Aug 2016 #57

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
2. Does this make any sense at all?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

What Conway is saying, in effect, is that Trump is so awful that some people are ashamed to admit publicly that they would vote for him, but despite his awfulness they'll actually do it - but not tell anybody.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
19. EXACTLY!!! My thoughts too! If he is THAT bad, how exactly is he "winning"????
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:06 PM
Aug 2016

"It’s because it’s become socially desirable, if you’re a college-educated person in the United States of America, to say that you’re against Donald Trump."

When that is a direct quote from your own campaign manager, you are doing it wrong.

underpants

(182,799 posts)
21. It does to Limbaugh fans
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:28 PM
Aug 2016

He explained yesterday that polls only survey LIKELY voters (which they don't) meaning people who are so outraged at the disaster that Obama has made MURKA that they are, for the first time, voting. He didn't mean young people he meant some never before know about mass of people who are coming out of the shadows to vote.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
31. Yes, "undercover Trump voter" = "secret bigot"
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:53 PM
Aug 2016

... Trump's target since day one. And of course, they should be ashamed to admit it, just as Conway is ashamed to admit that that's who she is talking about.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
43. O perhaps, a figment of a tabulating machine's imagination.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 06:00 PM
Aug 2016

Very imaginative, those things. Just ask Karl Rove and Ken "black box" Blackwell.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
55. I seriously doubt that Trump is actually ahead
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:36 PM
Aug 2016

but the systematic errors in the Brexit polling shows that in a close vote, if there is social stigma in declaring against one side, and turnout assumptions turn out to be wrong, then the pollsters can miss the final result.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/06/britain-s-eu-referendum

Brexit also had the disparity between online polling and telephone.

I would say, based on the Brexit example, if Clinton is ahead by 4% or more in the swing states, she will be fine. Less than that starts to get dicey.

bora13

(860 posts)
3. secret pollers
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:30 PM
Aug 2016

the only thing i am concerned about are the trumpelstiltskins who are called in a poll and say they are voting for hillary, but plan on voting for t-rump.

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. Sounds just like what Romney's campaign was saying...
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:31 PM
Aug 2016

right before he got a YUGE ass whuppin' by Obama.

Trump's bigly YUGE ass whuppin' will be the greatest evah!

underpants

(182,799 posts)
22. Yep. Trump's "look at the size of my crowds" is much like Romney's pollsters
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

Factoring in the energy of his crowds.

They were absolutely certain they were going to win.

procon

(15,805 posts)
29. Maybe all these new people Trump brought in are actually running a con game on him.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:43 PM
Aug 2016

They suck up to him, flatter his weak ego, and tell him what he wants to hear. They butter him up with platitudes and agree that he's the just the greatest, his ideas are the bestest, everyone loves him, he's sure to win with all these super duper secret Trump voters. Meanwhile they are all pulling out big paychecks and enjoying their lavish expense accounts, and boosting their resumes in the process.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
7. Winning results from online polling
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:36 PM
Aug 2016

Well at least his $8mil+ payment in August for digital consulting is buying him something ~



Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. $129,000 in August on free youtube videos?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:49 PM
Aug 2016

Credit Card payment 792K? (interest) OMG Republican Party better pay for all of this.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
15. Republican donors surely have.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:52 PM
Aug 2016

I don't know the history, but have other candidates enjoyed a profit from their campaigning for president?

Oh, Trumpy, Trumpy. You know that some day we will know all your secrets. The Internet and its inhabitants are relentless.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
11. Undercover Trumper, midnight fantasy
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:48 PM
Aug 2016

I never knew a fool who'd vote so secretly (wooo)
Undercover Trumper
Answer to Don's prayers
You let him know that there's a vote for him
Out there
(Somewhere...)

With apologies to Alan O'Day. Man, the Seventies were great.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
13. Undercover voters? They're committing fraud?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

Or is he referring to what one-percenter Mitt "R-Money" Romney referred to as the forty-seven percenters?


rocktivity

bucolic_frolic

(43,158 posts)
16. They've admitted it
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 12:59 PM
Aug 2016

undercover ... dressed to look like other voters, non-voters

so while they're watching for Democrats voting twice, they're
impersonating others ...

It's like Maxwell Smart

bellmartin

(218 posts)
17. I just LOVE this line!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:00 PM
Aug 2016

"I call it the undercover Trump voter, but it’s real.”

She doth protest too much.

It smacks of "Oh, my totally hot girlfriend, who lives two towns over, who I can't introduce you to, but who is totally real..."

Eugene

(61,891 posts)
18. Undercover voters. Yeah, that's the ticket!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:04 PM
Aug 2016

They just won't say what they believe to the Dishonest Media.
Suuuuure.

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
25. She is an educated professional pollster
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:35 PM
Aug 2016

That has been a significant portion of her professional career. And regardless of how good or bad she is at her job, she KNOWS what she is saying is a lie! She can't honestly even claim it is her belief.

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
26. tRump's Campaign Manager is Afraid To Tell tRump Bad News.
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:35 PM
Aug 2016

You're a loser, Donald. And the Chinese you borrowed from won't let you swindle them with a fifth bankruptcy.

Wolf

Eagle_Eye

(1,439 posts)
27. "Undercover Voters" = Open admission of cheating
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:37 PM
Aug 2016

The republicans declare they are engaged in vote fraud, and they get a pass from the media.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
30. They are Secret Ninja Mystery Voters!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 01:45 PM
Aug 2016

Do not dare to doubt their existence! Their true number is unknowable! They are many, and will turn out in bigly hordes on Wednesday November 9 to vote for Tarumph!

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
34. Let's see ''undercover voters"? That would be the ones too ashamed to admit they're voting for him?
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:39 PM
Aug 2016

Nah, these dumb asses are very vocal about who they're voting for. I think this is just of bunch of propaganda i.e. KellyAnne Conway, to confront the fact that he's losing in the polls.

bucolic_frolic

(43,158 posts)
35. Because it's POLITICALLY CORRECT for Trump & Pence to be ahead
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:53 PM
Aug 2016

Let's face it ... they've used

Liberal Bias in the Media

Political Correctness

Birther Truthiness

Guilt by Benghazi

against us, so they may as well pile on with UNDERCOVER VOTERS

Marthe48

(16,950 posts)
36. She has her head somewhere
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 02:56 PM
Aug 2016

If Trump supporters were an iceberg, there wouldn't be a darn thing underwater, undercover, or any other place.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
54. Oh yeah, the Democrats are the "in crowd"
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 07:49 AM
Aug 2016

and I just want to hang out with them.

I'm not seeing that. It is actually hard being a democrat in this country right now. The republicans are a mean bunch and make difficult for people to be open about being a democrat. I don't have a democrat crowd in real life, just online here. If I wanted to fit in and have friends and that's all I cared about, I would have called myself a republican a long time ago.

This shit is laughable... the garbage that keeps coming from the Trump campaign. They do better in online polls because of the tea party nutters that hit all the polls, multiple times over if they can get away with it.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
56. how very Orwellian,
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 12:45 PM
Aug 2016

we actually winning because we are losing. And if we slip further in the poles, we will win by an even bigger margin. Makes sense to me.

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