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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:24 PM Aug 2016

BREAKING: U.S. Senators Move To Investigate Mylan Pharmaceuticals Over EpiPen Price Gouging

Source: bipartisanreport.com




BREAKING: U.S. Senators Move To Investigate Mylan Pharmaceuticals Over EpiPen Price Gouging


By Tyler -



August 24, 2016


People were rightfully outraged when Mylan Pharmaceuticals raised the price of EpiPens by more than 400 percent. The public outcry has caused Senate democrats to take action.
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Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal also wrote a letter demanding that Mylan lower the price of EpiPens. In addition the burden such price gouging places on families, both letters noted that it placed a burden on first responders and medical personnel. Blumenthal’s letter noted that many first responders are resorting to directly injecting epinephrine via syringes despite the fact that EpiPens are safer...............................




....................However, one senator has moved beyond strongly worded letters. Amy Klobuchar is asking the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Federal Trade Commission to investigate Mylan’s price gouging.

‘Not only should the Judiciary Committee hold a hearing, the Federal Trade Commission should investigate these price increases immediately. The Commission should also report to Congress on why these outrageous price increases have become common and propose solutions that will better protect consumers within 90 days.’........................
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BREAKING: U.S. Senators Move To Investigate Mylan Pharmaceuticals Over EpiPen Price Gouging (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2016 OP
Easy solution ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2016 #1
i'd go further rdking647 Aug 2016 #9
There are a few constitutional issues going that far. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2016 #10
im not sure there are constitutional issues rdking647 Aug 2016 #15
Excellent. n/t DeadLetterOffice Aug 2016 #2
The Shkreli Maneuver bucolic_frolic Aug 2016 #3
good for Amy! chillfactor Aug 2016 #4
They need to approve a generic MattP Aug 2016 #5
I thought the senate was on recess n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2016 #6
I hope Senator Manchin finds it a little hot. LiberalFighter Aug 2016 #7
one hopes, a LOT more than little!! niyad Aug 2016 #8
Manchen is a DINO Hokie Aug 2016 #12
Related. proverbialwisdom Aug 2016 #11
BUT-but-but packman Aug 2016 #13
Most families need four Epipens! Sienna86 Aug 2016 #14
Rephrase: "Most families need four epinephrine autoinjectors." Igel Aug 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Aug 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author mark67 Aug 2016 #17
I think you are right . geretogo Aug 2016 #24
Why does it take massive outcry for Congress to do the right thing? CrispyQ Aug 2016 #18
The problem is everyone else regulates drug prices and we don't TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #25
Look for an outcry in the UK. That's because European pharms McCamy Taylor Aug 2016 #19
REC. riversedge Aug 2016 #20
I wonder if Pfizer would like to sell Meridian Medical to the Army jmowreader Aug 2016 #21
According to Thom Hartman SCVDem Aug 2016 #22
The epinephrine costs a buck. Igel Aug 2016 #31
Franklin Roosevelt called them " economic royalists " , I call them treasonous criminals . geretogo Aug 2016 #23
Oh, you mean they did notice that even though the pen's sale price went up six fold in a decade, 4lbs Aug 2016 #26
You go, Amy! Lifelong Protester Aug 2016 #27
GOOD!! This sort of business needs to be regulated and prosecuted. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #28
I hope they ask her... Moe the Dog Aug 2016 #29
Single. Payer. Now. area51 Aug 2016 #32

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
1. Easy solution
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:28 PM
Aug 2016

Anytime that any company pulls this shit, they lose all patent rights to that drug or equipment, and the US FDA will finance a competing company to sell it at cost.

Competition? If the GOP wants free market, we will use free markets to compete the hell out of those criminals.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
9. i'd go further
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 10:01 PM
Aug 2016

fine them 3x the revenue they made on the drugs for being a monopoly

revoke ALL their patents not just the ones on that drug

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
15. im not sure there are constitutional issues
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 10:36 PM
Aug 2016

anti trust law allows for triple damages for monopolistic practices

i dont think there would be any constitutional prohibtion to revoking patents

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
3. The Shkreli Maneuver
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 09:29 PM
Aug 2016

is no longer viable

You would think these CEO's would understand that by now

But pricing power is just too tempting and lucrative

Hokie

(4,286 posts)
12. Manchen is a DINO
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 10:08 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Sat Sep 3, 2016, 10:30 PM - Edit history (1)

I hope he feels the heat. His daughter is a crook. He has run against President Obama in every election. He might as well go over to the dark side.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
13. BUT-but-but
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 10:18 PM
Aug 2016

Isn't this capitalism and free enterprise? How dare they interfere with the workings of the market! Outrageous that our government is now sticking their noses into what should be a business decision. Doesn't this smack of some form of control on a system that is built on the premise of market demand and getting the most for your product? Aren't the makers more entitled to the profits due them?The stockholders are due their share and deserve it for the risks they take in investing in such companies.

If one can't afford the pen, perhaps they should get another job and pull themselves up a bit higher by their bootstraps.

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
14. Most families need four Epipens!
Wed Aug 24, 2016, 10:33 PM
Aug 2016

One for mom, dad, the kid and the school health office. I called my senators today to ask for action.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
30. Rephrase: "Most families need four epinephrine autoinjectors."
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:02 PM
Aug 2016

There's the important point: The Epipen is a brand name of an autoinjector. PR has made it seem like it's somehow unique, the only way of administering this drug.

It's not.

Moreover, it's not the only manufacturer of autoinjectors that administer epinephrine. However, the others are less well known.

It's rather like having Kleenex or Totino's raise their prices for tissue or frozen pizza by 400% next month. There are other brands of tissue and frozen pizza. The market domination by the Epipen means that responders would have to learn there are alternatives, become familiar with them, and purchase them; manufacturers would have to ramp up production. All of this would severely weaken the Epipen maker's market dominance and profits.

It so dominated the market that a lot of schools train people like teachers in how to use that particular brand-name and no other. The schools can change their training powerpoint presentations and buy the competition's product.

But the first step is to realize that the Epipen is like Ford. It's a brand name for a class of devices. Even if it works marginally better, it's replaceable. The calls for investigations, etc., are pretty much PR and politics. If I went to buy a model car with automatic transmission and found it cost 4x the price of one with manual, I'd be "stick shift rules." Not, "I demand that my senator launch an investigation in which great government resources can be used to hurt a company, however large, just for the sake of hurting that company."

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CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
18. Why does it take massive outcry for Congress to do the right thing?
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 11:03 AM
Aug 2016

What about all the other drugs that are prohibitively expensive in the US, but reasonably priced elsewhere?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
25. The problem is everyone else regulates drug prices and we don't
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:05 PM
Aug 2016

Go over to the EU or anywhere else in the developed world and they either regulate drug costs or they don't award patents the same way we do. Thus, pharmaceutical companies here charge whatever the market will bear and insurance companies negotiate the prices down some, but not enough. The high prices in the unrestrained US market effectively subsidize lower prices in other countries.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
19. Look for an outcry in the UK. That's because European pharms
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 02:29 PM
Aug 2016

price gouge the US to subsidize their own health care.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
21. I wonder if Pfizer would like to sell Meridian Medical to the Army
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:10 PM
Aug 2016

Meridian Medical, located in the St. Louis metro area, makes the atropine autoinjectors - devices like Epi-pens but filled with a different drug - the Army gives you in case you go through a nerve gas attack. Pfizer owns the plant now, but it's gone through quite a few changes of ownership. It's the only company in America that makes these.

It appears to me a person with a machine that fills autoinjectors, and that had a warehouse full of empty ones, could figure out how to get his or her hands on a few barrels of epinephrine and a truckload of empty autoinjector-sized boxes. And it further appears to me the Army could declare these things critical to national security and buy the factory that makes them...

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
22. According to Thom Hartman
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:24 PM
Aug 2016

The epi costs a buck.
The pens were developed by the military in the 50s.

What did this company do on their own?

This is taxpayer abuse!

Igel

(35,300 posts)
31. The epinephrine costs a buck.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 09:22 PM
Aug 2016

The autoinjector itself, a bit more.

Autoinjectors were developed by the Army. There's a variety of them on the market that aren't Epipens.

What the company did on its own is adopt the technology and then convince everybody that it was the only real manufacturer of autoinjectors. For many, epipen is a generic word like kleenex, coke, or sharpie. With the difference that all but the exceptionally dimwitted know "coke" can be any cola (in the right context), most stores produce generic tissues that aren't Kleenex (tm), sharpies may be made by Sharpie but there are other brands of fine-point permanent markers. (Okay, Coca-Cola is reclaiming it's "coke" trademark a bit better, but if you asked for a "coke" when I was a kid and got Pepsi instead of Coca-Cola nobody would think twice that they were mis-served.)

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
23. Franklin Roosevelt called them " economic royalists " , I call them treasonous criminals .
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 05:58 PM
Aug 2016

The corruption is beyond belief . They need to put in a federal penitentiary, enough is enough .

4lbs

(6,855 posts)
26. Oh, you mean they did notice that even though the pen's sale price went up six fold in a decade,
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:18 PM
Aug 2016

the cost of making it was barely any higher over that time span?

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
27. You go, Amy!
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 06:41 PM
Aug 2016

Perp walk for CEO is a good mental image. I am so tired of this crap.


Investigate them! Throw someone in jail! Sponsor purchases from the EU or Canada if they are cheaper there! Drive ém out of business.

And I carry one, so I am putting myself on the front line.

 

Moe the Dog

(8 posts)
29. I hope they ask her...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 08:05 PM
Aug 2016

Why she doesn't live in the Netherlands, where the company is registered to avoid taxation, and
How hard it was to acquire her MBA from WVU.

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