Mali: Islamists attack Timbuktu heritage sites
Source: AP
TIMBUKTU, Mali -- A resident of the northern Mali city of Timbuktu says Islamists who control the town are trying to destroy tombs classified as UNESCO World Heritage sites.
Ali Yattara said Saturday that the Islamists began attacking the saints' tombs with shovels. He says they said they were responding to UNESCO's request last week that the sites be put on the organization's "in danger" list.
UNESCO has said that two World Heritage sites in Mali - Timbuktu and the tomb of Askia - are threatened by conflict between competing rebel groups who have taken over the north.
Islamist fighters with ties to al-Qaida have declared that they control the northern half of Mali after driving out an ethnic Tuareg separatist group.
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/30/4601404/mali-islamists-attack-timbuktu.html
I guess it must be this place.
Read more about Timbuktu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu
aquart
(69,014 posts)And it happens too damn often.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I have no need to learn about these vandals' "issues" when they do this. They're getting attention but no sympathy.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)may3rd
(593 posts)They will be heroes
......
Meet his little hussy with his ghost town approach
Her face is sans feature, but she wears a Dali brooch
Sweetly reminiscent, something mother used to bake
Wrecked up and paralyzed, Diamond Dogs are sableized
It's best to look the other way....out of sight....
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I could never make out some of the lyrics. David Bowie has some really good lyrics. Recognize this one?
"Cop melts and kisses the feet of a priest
and the queer threw up at the sight of that"
may3rd
(593 posts)you may be a dinosaur if you remember this talk show ;
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I was just a baby when it came out. Amazingly I chanced to hear it "again for the first time" as a teenager, and it was the weirdest feeling because I had obviously heard it a million times in early childhood, but then never heard it again until I was a teen.
The entire album is kind of ...timeless. Definitely in my top 10.
may3rd
(593 posts)imo,
Bowie has a wide brush in the music world
Lucky Luciano
(11,262 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)may3rd
(593 posts)then they should change the way they look .
Mz Pip
(27,454 posts)What is it about religious nutjobs that they feel compelled to destroy graves? What kind of anger makes someone do something like that?
Human history is littered with destruction caused by overzealous religious beliefs. Seems we really haven't come very far in all these thousands of years.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Igel
(35,362 posts)One stop shopping: inspiration (presumably) and exercise.
In a possibly snarkier note, the ground they're on is probably considered public property: waqf or some such. That said, the shrine a religious monument on public property, and a monument that the current government considers offensive and inappropriate (even if others don't). Perhaps if the worshippers moved it to private property and didn't make a public spectacle of it, an accommodation could be worked out.
IamK
(956 posts)may3rd
(593 posts)defined;....
something you don't know can't affect you (good or bad). So, you remain unenlightened
submit or be cast out
may3rd
(593 posts)"About 30 Algerian jihadists arrived in Gao on Friday to assist in securing the town and hunting down rebels" from the Tuaregs' National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad (MNLA), a regional security source said.
He said they had come to join Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) leader Mokhtar Belmokhtar, who is currently in Gao.
......The Tuareg, who had kickstarted the rebellion with an eye for independence of northern Mali, or Azawad, did not agree with the Islamists who wanted a state based on strict Islamic law, which they have already enforced.
......
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j5Sb4gi1N6X45KGC0E8xPUZaYmFw?docId=CNG.262300e1fe08b3deae5dc6fa4e31972d.7d1
Is it time to say ;
"If we can't change them, we must change ourselves"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-briggs/islamist-is-it-time-to-reconsider-the-term_b_1624319.html
Overseas
(12,121 posts)all over the world.
New religions so often roar in with such egotistical zeal and trash the temples of their predecessors and ancestors.
Rather than appreciating and preserving the continuum of religious imagination in their history.
I hope more countries go ahead and separate church and state, in the interest of religious freedom and diversity in our imaginations.
I hope Americans mucking things up, allowing hateful Christianists to permeate our government too, won't crush the goals of countries that want to establish democracies that consider citizens' religious views their own private affair...
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)...I just found out it was a real place a few months ago!
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)Mali Islamists to continue destroying UNESCO sites
By BABA AHMED, Associated Press 11 minutes ago
BAMAKO, Mali (AP) Islamist rebels said Sunday they will continue to destroy historic sites in Mali's northern city of Timbuktu before they implement strict Shariah law, as Mali's government compared the destruction to "war crimes" and said they would seek international justice.
Ansar Dine spokesman Sanda Abu Mohamed said Sunday that Islamists will continue the destruction they started Saturday.
"We're going to destroy everything before we apply Shariah in this city," he said.
Resident Moussa Maiga said the Islamists have expressed disapproval of what they think is worship of the tombs of the Muslim saints.
more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jApYcMMCRSeeI_-iCOuZccLRr6tQ?docId=86e21e2efbe34fcab2357a1c839a24f8
Overseas
(12,121 posts)may3rd
(593 posts)keeping preserved false gods in the form of saint/scholar recognition is considered a form of idol worship
and that is forbidden in the more 'intimidating' sects of islam
http://www.newsy.com/videos/islamist-fighters-destroy-timbuktu-tombs/#ooid=tiMzVhNTq_WrAoAqmkJgRW6x5-Ed-eL8
might makes right
Lars77
(3,032 posts)may3rd
(593 posts)I myself wouldn't lose my head over a promise they made 11 weeks ago.
Fighters in Timbuktu announce Islamic state
Apr 13, 2012
You go make it right, get back to us.
oh wait.
That would take an army, wouldn't it?
Eugene
(61,964 posts)Source: Reuters
BAMAKO | Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:28am EDT
(Reuters) - Al Qaeda-linked Islamists in Timbuktu broke down the door to a 15th century mosque on Monday that locals believed had to stay shut until the end of the world, defying international calls to halt the destruction of holy sites in the UNESCO-listed city.
In a third day of attacks on historic and religious landmarks that UNESCO has called "wanton destruction", the Islamists targeted the ancient Sidi Yahya mosque as they tried to erase traces of what they regard as un-Islamic idolatry.
"In legend, it is said that the main gate of Sidi Yahya mosque will not be opened until the last day (of the world)," Alpha Abdoulahi, the town imam, told Reuters by telephone.
Yet eight Islamist fighters had smashed down the door to the mosque early on Monday, saying they wanted to "destroy the mystery" of the ancient entrance, he said.
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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/02/us-mali-crisis-idUSBRE8610JQ20120702