Top House Dems Seek FBI Investigation of Possible Trump Connections to Cyber Attacks
Source: House Oversight Dems
Serious questions have been raised.
Reps. Elijah E. Cummings, John Conyers, Jr., Elliot L. Engel, and Bennie G. Thompson, the Ranking Members of the House Committees on Oversight and Government Reform, Judiciary, Foreign Affairs, and Homeland Security, sent a detailed letter to FBI Director James Comey requesting that the FBI assess whether connections between Trump campaign officials and Russian interests may have contributed to cyber attacks against the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in order to interfere with the U.S. presidential election.
Serious questions have been raised about overt and covert actions by Trump campaign officials on behalf of Russian interests, the Ranking Members wrote. It is critical for the American public to know whether those actions may have directly caused or indirectly motivated attacks against Democratic institutions and our fundamental election process.
Read more: https://medium.com/oversightdems/top-house-dems-seek-fbi-investigation-of-possible-trump-connections-to-cyber-attacks-600e8a7c9935
https://medium.com/oversightdems
My top suspect, the Republicans, as usual.
William Seger
(10,778 posts)At the very least, it will shine some light on why Putin wants to help Trump Make America Great Again.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Looking back on who has been quickest to misdirect the blame to Putin could be of interest. Who pushed the Putin narrative? Trump? From what I've gleaned, the IP in Russia was used by hackers before. How that fingers Putin I'm uncertain. Is Putin responsible for everything any hacker using a computer in Russia does? Or do hackers covering their tracks use computers in Russia. I think the latter is historic fact. Hackers are trying to not be detected and not get caught if detected.
William Seger
(10,778 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Please do enlighten us with some proof instead of repeating a Republican talking point.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Not sure what you meant. You do understand security experts were given permission to release a public report on the Clinton campaign hacking. I believe the report.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)the interpretation of that evidence. You do realize which server we are talking about at that IP, one used by hackers to hide their identity?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Watch the other hand applies when someone is running a con. If their spying is as all-encompassing as ours, the Russians know who used that server from where. If the hacker had used a server in the USA, we would be able to follow the evidence. With Russia and the leaker (if they are distinct parties) likely knowing who the hacker was, this could get real interesting before the election.
I don't think it has sunk in how big a deal this political spying is. It reveals the corrupt people opposing Clinton and the Dems. The big issue of political liberty under threat and the rule of the majority being criminally interfered with is what some of the distraction is all about, and blaming Putin is the perfect distraction. Don't expect Fox to focus on the crime as "political spying on Democrats" when they can run with Russian spying and Hillary's email. How many millions have Republicans spent trying to derail Hillary? ... but they can't be suspect in this, give me a break.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)He's a commie!!!
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)'bout time for some payback...
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)What country does he want to serve? He better make up his mind. I don't think voters take kindly to a traitors.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Politicizing cyberattacks hinders our ability to evaluate our adversaries goals
By Nicole Gladstone and Michael Chernin
On Tuesday June 14, CrowdStrike, a threat intelligence firm, released a report detailing a breach into the Democratic National Committees (DNC) database by Russian-affiliated cyber adversaries named Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear. Although a single user codenamed Guccifer 2.0 published leaked documents on Wednesday claiming to have perpetrated the hack, it is unclear whether the purportedly stolen documents were merely copies of the originals leaked by the Bears, or were in fact stolen by the user. In any case, the intrusion targeted opposition research on presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, in addition to emails and chat messages among DNC staff. According to CrowdStrike, Cozy Bear had been in the DNCs system for over a year, while Fancy Bears attack appears to have begun in April. .....
My understanding of how much is fact, "Russian-affiliated" references the code doing the spying having an IP to send the collected data to, and that IP was employed in other detected cyber attacks and is in Russia. The article continues with some confidence about the identity of the hack but not much justification for their confidence in that identity.
This was an exercise in general intelligence gathering, not an attack on either candidate or either party. Because both groups appear to have been backed by the Russian intelligence and security apparatus, their goals were fundamentally strategic in nature. Trumps affinity for Vladimir Putin aside, the hackers did not aim to compromise DNC servers or damage the U.S. Democratic Party. As former NSA analyst Dave Aitel argued this week, this was a long-term operation. It wasnt about Trumps policies, legal troubles, or whatever else was in the stolen documents. It was about building a broader picture of U.S. electoral politics to inform Russian strategy. Unlike non-state actors such as ISIL whose capabilities are largely limited to low-level website defacement and showiness (see our timeline of milestones in digital terror), the success of the hackers hinged on flying under the radar.
The use of proxy-groups is strategic and gives Russia plausible deniability. All governments conduct surveillance. ....
It is an interesting read, and the authors are writing with more background than I have. They also seem to have unstated assumptions. And they don't seem to assume Republicans are suspect.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The GOP nominee says all kinds of crazy things on the campaign trail. But this one could open him up to prosecutionif the Department of Justice was really willing to go there.
Nancy A. Youssef, Tim Mak, Shane Harris 07.27.16
Did Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump just call for a felony to be committed? On Wednesday, he urged a foreign government to hack an American citizen and release personal emails.
Russia, if you're listening, I hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing from emails that Hillary Clinton turned over to the State Department, Trump said in a lengthy press conference in Doral, Fla. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Lets see if that happens. That will be next. Yes, sir.
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The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Party's emails. Sorry I wasn't as specific in the first place. I thought it was understood.
William Seger
(10,778 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Given that Trey Gowdy has squandered tax payer $$$$ on endless Benghazi/email hearings that went absolutely nowhere -- I am SURE the republicans with their great concern about the ethics of our candidates will be very eager to conduct a hearing and/or encourage the FBI to investigate Trump's obvious Russian ties and the issue of the Russian hacker who broke into the DNC system but just by chance (?) didn't break into the RNC or Trump campaign
Kablooie
(18,632 posts)A thorough investigation is reasonable and appropriate considering all the things Trump has said.
There so much projection within Republicans that if they state that Democrats will be doing some heinous act it's often a signal that the Republican has done or is about to do the same.
duncang
(1,907 posts)a connection could be established directly between the russian hackers and dipshit donnie. But the investigation might turn up more about what his financial ties to russian entities. But that is all according to if the FBI does do a investigation. Also how long it would take. He may have time to leave the country and move in with his buddy asshinge.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)directly established. Of course it wasn't because the lackeys had to take the fall after they got caught committing the crimes. Well, the hacker was caught in the act, knew the hack had been terminated, and thereafter there was an effort to claim responsibility by an anonymous party posing as a known Russian hacker and that story fell apart on closer scrutiny.
What I find interesting is the overzealous appetite for investigating Hillary will suddenly transform into abject dismissal of the idea that any Republican should be investigated. Nevertheless, who of all players in the world had the motivation to spy on the Dem campaign, and the means. Big hints, not Bernie Sanders, and not Jill Stein. The likeliest suspect to be spying on the Dem candidate and the DNC is grossly obvious, the Republican Party.
We know who has the motivation. Who had the connections and the means?
Are the hacker and the leaker the same person? Did the leaker seek to either expose the hack or to cover-up who did the hack by turning it into a leak?
duncang
(1,907 posts)Instead of repeating the whole thing I also had the same question brought up below.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)First, you'd have to produce the hackers, which Russia is extremely unlikely to do. Given the fact that those hackers have probably used their skills in other state sponsored activities that Russia doesn't particularly want to come to light.
Then they'd have to say that they had no earthly desire to hack the DNC or Hillary Clinton or anything associated with our elections until they heard Donald Trump say something on tv about it.
Assuming, of course, that Russians actually did the hack, and not someone using TOR and a cloned server somewhere in Russia to launch their attack, which is like Hacking 101 stuff.
tRump is a selfish, egomaniacal dipshit; but the idea that he came up with the idea to use an international hacking ring (with flawless Opsec), and then use Wikileaks to distribute all his illegally obtained data is crazy. and then to think that once he did all that stuff, he'd go on tv and announce that he needs more information and that they should do more.
duncang
(1,907 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 1, 2016, 12:45 AM - Edit history (1)
I did say in the course of the investigation they may be able to turn up info on his financial ties to Russian entities and if any of that is illegal could also be turned up. It's all according to which end they looked at first. If they first looked at financial ties and to whom then looked for ties from them to hackers possible illegal finances could be uncovered.
Edit: I'm going to add this. Personally I don't think that chasing after Russian ties would help that much. There can be a smoking gun, one might be from the taxes side. But one item that I think is something fairly easy to start with dipshit is the modeling agency. They already have at least 3 models who worked for the agency coming out on the practices used. It looks like it would not only be immigration law violations, but also labor law violations. Another thing would be the waivered H1B visas for his country club. Those since approved may go nowhere, but I wonder if there were labor law violations.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)It's crazy how the Clinton email investigation blew up and still makes headlines after the investigation concluded, yet this gets put on the backburner. His main man for much of his campaign had direct verifiable ties to, and a working relationship with, a hostile foreign government. It's insane to me that this isn't the top story on every major network. Liberal media bias, my ass.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)red dog 1
(27,797 posts)"I will tell you this, Russia. If you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing," Trump said at a news conference last month.
"I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/democrats-fbi-connection-trump-cyberattacks-227555
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)They can be so transparent and yet no one sees thru them.
If only they would devote even half the amount of time they spent investigating Hillary Clinton.
I can only imagine the shit they'd dredge up.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)because he's too busy writing tomorrow's Hillary hate piece...
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)And now that he has the new thing going, expect to hear far more from him.
https://theintercept.com/staff/glenn-greenwald/
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)My tolerance level of his selective journalistic outrage is only so high...
Last I checked, he was still calling anyone reporting about Russian hacking+ties to Assange a "Neo-McCarthyite"
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)whether Sec. Clinton lied to Congress when she was asked if she had a hang nail in 1958!
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)I don't think this will go anyplace. I pray I'm wrong.
IMHO, FBI director James Comey increasingly has been using his office to politicize the Clinton emails (He's a GOP guy), so I really don't think this request, which COULD be legitimate, is going anywhere unfortunately.
truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)Seems like they would have been all over this a few weeks ago!