Santorum tells Iowans: ‘I don’t want to make black people’s lives better’
Santorum tells Iowans: I dont want to make black peoples lives better
By Stephen C. Webster
Monday, January 2, 2012
Speaking to Republicans in Iowa on Monday, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) said his administration would reform welfare to the point that it would offer no welfare at all.
After suggesting that an expansion of Medicare is really just a plot to make voters more dependent on Washington, Santorum added: I dont want to make black peoples lives better by giving them other peoples money.
I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn their money and provide for themselves and their families, he added. The best way to do that is to get the manufacturing sector of the economy rolling.
One thing he likely overlooked: white Americans account for the largest percentage of welfare payments each month, mostly because they make up the largest sector of the population.
More:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/02/santorum-tells-iowans-i-dont-want-to-make-black-peoples-lives-better/
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Rush is proud of his lapdog. Have a biscuit, Ricky!
nxylas
(6,440 posts)The "giving money to black people" stuff is a recurrent theme in his show, but he knows enough to dress it up with code words and dog whistles.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)redwitch
(14,948 posts)Well that does it for me. I won't vote for him.
alp227
(32,059 posts)and that was when he OPENED his campaign after the GOP convention. What a desperation move by he whose name shall not be entered in google.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Make women die from pregnancy.
These are Tea Party values!
olegramps
(8,200 posts)The Catholic bishops love this bastard. If he is nominated the bishops will come out in full force to get him elected so they can push for outlawing abortion, sex education classes, availability of contraception products and making pedophilia a virtue.
Blue Owl
(50,512 posts)Santorum could be in deep shit!!!
yurbud
(39,405 posts)For an insult to be worth responding to, it has to be made by someone you think has at least enough power & notoriety to do you some harm.
Santorum no longer has either.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Did you hear the applause after that comment?
yurbud
(39,405 posts)His 15 minutes are already up, but he doesn't know what time it is.
tabatha
(18,795 posts)And if he wants people to earn the money themselves, increase education costs, and provide the jobs.
getdown
(525 posts)before throwing people overboard
usrname
(398 posts)Float some boats before throwing people overboard. Very sage.
thanks for the nice words
WingDinger
(3,690 posts)This is how it was in the 50's
starroute
(12,977 posts)So saying things were like that when he was born isn't much of an excuse.
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)Mopar151
(9,999 posts)There really seem to be generational waves of these goobers - look at the Bush family, the Pauls.... They've sat in the shadows for years, absorbing the old Bircher, racist, money-hoarding shitstorm from the old men like it was true!
I beleive that they are strongly discouraged for thinking for themselves from an early age - it makes for some messy conversations with old Dad.......
Bucky
(54,068 posts)and he doesn't understand how it works (most people are only on it for under two years), and he's intellectually lazy to buy into the pathetic stereotypes that welfare is all about white people taking care of black people. This is wrong a dozen different ways, but he's never bothered to find out what other peoples' lives are like.
Maybe "bad" is too harsh, but he's definitely chosen to be lazy and incurious about the community he claims he wants to lead.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)one might as well whistle dixie and stand on one's head at rush hour. No 'welfare' for you.
In fact, we might as well remove that definition of the word from our lexicon as it has nearly gone the way of the dinosaur.
Repukes will never let the word die though; its utterance conjures up too many stereotypes that put money in their pockets.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Bucky,
I don't agree. I think he knows EXACTLY what he is saying. The rhythm, and faltering delivery of the line shows that he definitely is a racist, is uncomfortable with "black people." He almost didn't say it, but it was coming from so deep inside him that he could not help himself. He even felt uncomfortable saying the words 'black people," first because..well he doesn't like being around "black people" and in fact doesn't even like saying the words, and.. because he KNOWS how he feels and wanted to say something else.. But the truth just popped out.
hyphenate
(12,496 posts)Maybe we should just commit him--public intervention. A lobotomy or massive doses of EST should do the trick.
Oh, wait--we'd have to do it to most of the candidates. Too much taxpayer money involved in that.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)I was born in 1958 too, and I'm not a scum-sucking bigot like Santorum.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Many of us learned at an early age that the casual racism so prevalent in our parents' generation was becoming less and less acceptable. Sadly, some still have not learned.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)think
(11,641 posts)Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)Pander to the GOP racist base. That's the ticket, Rick. And it will work.
duhneece
(4,118 posts)I so agree with you.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I suspect all of those Southern Baptists could overlook his Catholicism, but they won't vote for a Mormon.
Not sure how such comments will play in Iowa.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)Although, judging from the applause in the crowd, Iowa has a few.
duhneece
(4,118 posts)Santorum's comments reveal so much about racism, the perception of welfare recipients and the lack of compassion.
Kurmudgeon
(1,751 posts)I mean I believe it, it's right there, I just don't believe it.....
This election season is freaking crazy....
Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)I can tell you from personal experience that Rick Santorum is the dumbest asshole I've ever encountered.
NJCher
(35,746 posts)As a college teacher who deals with many adults at night classes, I'd like to hear some stories.
Cher
Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)He really needed someone to operate on him and put a string in his back, pull it and then let him repeat one of ten prerecorded phrases like a Chatty Cathy doll!
barbtries
(28,811 posts)or do an interview or something. tell us again, how dumb is this man??
tblue
(16,350 posts)Well, I'll give him credit for saying it out loud. That is who they are. They use coded language, but they tell us this every time they open their mouths.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)TomClash
(11,344 posts)I didn't realize there were so many "blacks" in banking.
Who knew?
Armin-A
(367 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)And why did he single out black people?
AlecBGreen
(3,874 posts)1) Create jobs and 2) drop the race-baiting
Skittles
(153,193 posts)like most GOP bastards he thinks only black people need a helping hand
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)a retort should be to ask him if he could live on a monthly welfare check.
AlecBGreen
(3,874 posts)People need a strong social safety net for a time until they can get a good paying job to support them and their family (with exceptions for disabled, etc). A great way to do that, to get a strong middle class, is by reviving the manufacturing sector. Now how to do that, Im sure he and I differ on. He would likely cut wages & collective bargaining and I think we should do the opposite. The key, though, is revoking NAFTA and GATT and stop this race to the bottom in terms of price and quality we have been seeing for the last 30 years.
hyphenate
(12,496 posts)I understand what you are saying, but believe me, Santorum isn't interested in doing what you say. He is only interested in turning this country into a divided, two class system: the plebes and the ruling class. THAT is no democracy, nor is it what most people in this country want.
The whole secret to watching this 24/7 circus is not to hear how these people say they will preside, but how they believe. Regardless of how many promises they make, there are still enough measures in government to prevent some very radical measures from ever getting passed, especially if Congress ends up being divided by partisanship.
Codes are NOT for the majority of voters--they hear what they want to hear. The codes are for those who retain power and influence in this country, who AREN'T part of the actual government. People like the Koch brothers, or James Dobson, or any other shadowy outsider who actually has a vested interest in how much power he or she will lose if someone strong actually gets to govern the country. People like Santorum know that--they won't really be ruling, but they will be the ones who get the acclaim, fame and "respect." They know they're the lapdogs and the ones who are "groomed" to be the "face" of the ruling class. But they also know that the true rulers require them to make sacrifices, and selling their souls is usually the main deal.
Some buck the trend, and manage to actually get something done in their time as the leader, but they are vilified terribly for their independence. This has been going on for at least 50 years, most likely a LONG time before that. It's one of the reasons our country is already as screwed up as it is, and why we're only seeing it relatively recently--people at the top don't want to have the common people know who they are. Their control and power depends on them shielding themselves from criticism and rancor--if people know who they were, or even the fact that they exist, there would certainly be something far more dangerous set upon them than the Occupy movement or some radical dissenters who appear insane or frustrated.
I'm not a conspiracy enthusiast, but I've seen enough to come to conclusions that there are dangerous people in this world who have no one's best interests at heart except for their own.
Santorum is a puppet--a willing one. And he only has to utter the right words in order to be considered the puppet in charge, something he is eminently suitable for.
However, I doubt in my gut if people will accept him as the candidate. He's too loopy to most people.
AlecBGreen
(3,874 posts)the only point I dont is the idea that Rick (and by default, most GOPers?) want to turn the country into a rich/poor two-class country. I think that is the net result of their actions but I just cant bring myself to believe that anybody is actively seeking that. If they are, that is truly despicable. I think the more likely scenario is that many greedy people think "Im gonna get as much as I can and if that bankrupts half the country, well tough **** for them." Its may be naive to think this but thats how I see things.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)how else can their actions be explained. actions speak louder than words. their words are 99% bullshit, and when it's not bullshit, it's this. racist, divisive, policy suggestions.
mac56
(17,574 posts)but I suspect you are being naive.
When someone (or some party) shows you what they are, believe them the first time.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)I believe the Right has every intention of making a permanent working underclass. I'm not talking about the average Eisenhower type Republicans (do they even exist any more?), but every one of the GOP candidates would love to see Americans cutting each others throats for a low paying job.
AlecBGreen
(3,874 posts)but the thing is they have deluded themselves into thinking that a race to the bottom in workers wages will somehow magically create a strong economy. Crazy I know.
Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)And no doubt his "brother in ¢hri$t" Ken Cuccinelli agrees with stopping those "unbiblical" interracial marriages as well!
David__77
(23,520 posts)Really.
Charlemagne
(576 posts)I dont want to make black peoples lives better by giving them other peoples money.
Exactly. Whenever they talk about small government or welfare reform, they are saying:
"I dont want my money going to minorities."
They are racist.
This statement again proves it. Its about all about holdin back the N****rs. It always is with these people
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)What about the corporations on welfare!!!!
I don't want to make Exxon/Mobil's life better with my money.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Racism is the underlying problem in our country. It's why so many people fear "socialism." It's why the public schools are underfunded. It's why we don't have universal access to healthcare. Too many stupid racists running around screeching that somebody else is going to get something they "don't deserve." And so most of the country doesn't have much of anything. Convenient for the 1%.
Mopar151
(9,999 posts)Here in doh-white NH, they blame Franklin and Pittsfield, Somerswor't and Roachchester. Many cite examplas of family or acquaintances
nxylas
(6,440 posts)In their world, the master (white) race is comprised of diligent, hard-working entrepreneurs who are being bled dry by our uppity President taking all their money and giving it to his people.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Charlemagne
(576 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I was just wondering if he's too stupid to phrase the whole thing in "dog whistle" language, but maybe that's not it--maybe he's afraid some portion of his racist audience is too stupid to understand Dog Whistle, so he has to spell it out for them.
alp227
(32,059 posts)and in this era most of those who cheered on Reagan when he said at that county fair near where the civil rights workers were murdered "I support states' rights" aren't alive anymore. However, the average middle class American's resentment towards welfare (of course especially towards black single moms or obese illegal Latina women and their anchor babies) is a winning point for Rethug pols.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)and put it on his facebook page in case you didn't get it the first time.
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)But you should have used the term "nigger". Why go half way?
Santorum, a frothy mix for America.
Islandlife
(212 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Many DU titles are, but not this one.
libmom74
(633 posts)The title is a quote of Santorum's own words. His racebaiting statement is indefensible.
Islandlife
(212 posts)Was not what I expected. I expected to hear an exclusion of benefits by race instead it sounds like he has a "better" way of helping the underprivileged.
I felt like the title got me intrested, then was let down by the article.
sakabatou
(42,176 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)I guess the Iowa republicans agree. Nope, they're not racist, not at all!
Do they even consider the white people getting govt assistance?
bulloney
(4,113 posts)usrname
(398 posts)I'm sure they're getting some sort of assistance from the Dept or Agriculture, or some sort of a farm subsidy. Very few small farmers can survive without some sort of government help nowadays.
I'm just wondering what a black republican farmer will say to Santorum's statement.
That would be so much self-contradiction that it would cause a mental black hole that could suck in the whole nation. (And spew out some santorum from the other side.)
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Scairp
(2,749 posts)He should go to a welfare office sometime, especially in Ohio or Kentucky. I promise you 90% of the people waiting has a caucasian appearance. What a complete tool.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)tropicanarose
(240 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)if their campaign is a humorless joke. Which his is. His campaign was done for 45 minutes before it started. He'll get the anti-gay crowd. He'll get the anti-minority crowd. But he is not a serious contender. He's and Gringrich are the trojan horse candidates. They are just there so Romney can say. "See? I'm not as bad as two other jokers..." Gingrich is the favorite on free republic right now, but he doesn't have a chance in mainstream America. But I'd put my money on Romney being the candidate. I'd put my vote on Obama though.
boppers
(16,588 posts)Gingrich at 5.4%
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=84328
For the election, Romney's at 39%, Obama at 51.5%.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=84326
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)riverwalker
(8,694 posts)could not believe my ears.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)hyphenate
(12,496 posts)For those of us who have been reading about him for years, he's the biggest nutjob out there.
I might disappoint Barney Frank by saying this, but maybe I've lead a good enough life to see Santorum as the GOP nominee. He'd be torn to shreds in a very short time, and we could market it and earn a fortune as the best comedy series.
1stlady
(122 posts)We can't sit back and let politicains spew hate like this. Seriously, this is unacceptable, why single out blacks? If we let this continue right now so early in the election cycle, what the hell should we expect 5 or 6 months from now. Stop racism in its tracks, especially a politicians who is running for president.
he should not be allowed to get away with this remark. There should be protests calling him what he is, a racist. Wherever he goes next, he needs to be met with protesters and signs calling him out.
This is totally unacceptable coming from anyone, let alone a person aspiring to the presidency.
Cher
RUMMYisFROSTED
(30,749 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)I wonder what he thought.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)with no healthcare, so who needs food then, eh? But hey they do want to work poor ten year olds cleaning up their toilets.
I hope this young generation is learning well how wonderful capitalism is for themselves and their families.
alp227
(32,059 posts)Pakid
(478 posts)so how about we end welfare for the rich and start making them pay their share of taxes!
tnvoter
(257 posts)JI7
(89,275 posts)anyone remember that guy ? he worked for Santorum .
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)JI7
(89,275 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)Remember Me
(1,532 posts)Gee, Rick, do you also think they'd be better taken care of if we still had plantations and all?
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Santorum is playing to the tea party/far right/fundamentalists with such language.
CarmanK
(662 posts)Really disappointed in Santorum. But, then again, it is the repuglican way of dividing the country and demonizing " the other". They just have to have someone to blame for the country's ills. After all, they could never admit that it was their TRICKLE DOWN Economics, which was truly named by HW Bush as VOODOO economice.
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)is not right either. The bottom line is that there is a huge amount of racial hatred and fear in America, and this is the bitter fruit of the legacy of slavery.
Also, be you white, black, purple, green, if there are not decent jobs to support yourself, you have receive some form of support (be it from government, neighbors, private charities, etc) or you will die.
Santorum is a thug.
47of74
(18,470 posts)That's about the nicest thing I can say about that person.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)so will he only remove blacks from any of the social support like medicaid ? ?
I assume he is talking about that and food stamps as there isnt much 'welfare' as a checkpayment since Clinton I thought maybe I am wrong.....
That doesnt seem fiscally right that he would cut only black people with white people being the majority.
Snark also like how he assumes blacks would benefit best by manufacturing sector..........hmmm more stereotyping would not want to train them in growing sectors like the medical field etc huh??..... things that make you go hhmmn
And here I thought his forte was outright gay bashing nice to see how multifaceted he can be
He is as disgusting as the noun his name has created!!
Someone please hit this guy in the face with a Santorum pie!!!
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I mean, really, does that seem like a very good idea, really
barbtries
(28,811 posts)and all the racists listening think he's great. he gets it. why the adjective froth man?
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I's sorry Massuh Santorum!!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Maybe he thinks all the other races on welfare are OK. It's just those lazy black people who are the only ones who ever go on welfare in his mind. Not even a smidgen of racism there!
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)a majority of people already realize that most of the republican party are racists. So this should be no surprise to anyone. It really doesn't matter who wins in Iowa, or any other caucus. They are all a bunch of clowns, and NO ONE will beat Obama. Right now it's all about media hype because they can't find anything else to freak out on.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Mr Dixon
(1,185 posts)IMO, the ghetto and the trailer parks are the same full of poor people. Now by saying black people he is attempting to draw a distinction between the two, poor is poor no matter the race. This is a classic ploy to divide people, and it always works, until people realize that were all in the same row boat, and the 1% are in a luxury liner we will continue to hear crap like this, dont be outraged, just be conscious of the tactic.
GTurck
(826 posts)since they don't have much contact with minorities they will politely ignore the statement because they don't know anyone effected by it. That makes it doubly dangerous to say but has no cost to Santorum. The Iowans I know are not bigots in the usual sense; a great many simply have never met a black person or latino. Their idea of differentness is the European country a persons ancestors comes from. I am thinking of a couple, I knew one of whom was descended from Belgians, and the spouse never let it be forgotten. It was a running joke and the main issue in their marriage. Santorum is using a general ignorance of the rest of the country in a very small state to vent his own bile and vileness.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)agentS
(1,325 posts)Why don't you tell us how you really feel about minorities, Santorum?
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)qanda
(10,422 posts)And not just the remark but the lack of coverage about the remark. Not a word about it on the Today Show and some media have the nerve to question whether he was actually saying "black" people. What else could he have been saying? Simply unbelievable that this type of overt racism is allowed anywhere near America, let alone someone vying for the highest office in America.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)We all know that he's just saying what a lot of Republicans are thinking.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)The Census recently reported that the biggest factor driving people into poverty was not their race, but their out-of-pocket health costs -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/how-policy-makes-people-poorer/2011/11/18/gIQABK9bZN_story.html
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)But you can bet there would be plenty of public revenue available for military contracts, U.S. aggression and "tax cuts" for corporations and wealthy elites.
Why is the insanity not obvious to everyone?
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)If corporate bailouts are also considered "welfare", then that statement can't possibly be true.
Personally, I think money invested in "welfare" offers a far greater return in social health and stability than maintaining a global empire and waging perpetual war.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Wonder why they are not trash targeting immigrants?
Oh, that must be because the Koch Brothers use so many of them in their Dixie Cup factories. Never mind.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)ROFLMAO
Iowa is a red state. Red states live off federal handouts that are paid for by the taxes of those who live in Blue states.
Surprised no one is talking about the end of ethanol subsidies. I thought they grew corn in Iowa.
Corruption Winz
(616 posts)But.... who mentioned black people before Rick? Is this taken out of context or did he just go straight for black people? Especially when white people are the biggest portion of welfare recipients as the OP mentions?
Great move, though. Any black people on the fence about Obama are sure to vote Rick Santorum now.
I've said it once, I'll say it 1,000 times.. Obama wins, simply by going up against these losers.
eringer
(460 posts)Ricky the racist.
Cigar11
(549 posts)Why do most Black People Vote Democratic?
It's truly a mystery to me.
kemah
(276 posts)People vote for their self-interest. LBJ, passed civil rights.
Also the same reason certain millionaires join unions, to protect their interests. You would think with some college and having a million dollar salaries, you would not have to join a union. But professional sports players gladly join unions to protect their interests from team owners, whose only commitment is to maximize profit. Do not build a million dollar stadium at tax payers expensive, the team bolts. Why do you think Los Angeles doesn't have a NFL team, the city won't build a super duper stadium for them. Los Angeles Raiders left back to Oakland for that reason.
kemah
(276 posts)Here they are collecting SS, medicare, and free hover rounds. The GOP wants to gut all these programs. What would you do of your parents did not have social security? Support them in your house or take them to the Salvation Army homeless shelter.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Gringostan
(127 posts)I always knew he was a religious, racist, homophobic nut case; but I thought at least hes intelligent boy was I wrong!
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)And then there's the Racism...
No doubt he will jump a few points in South Carolina.
kemah
(276 posts)When LBJ introduced the food stamp bill, Bob Dole came out and was dead set against it. Calling it socialism and such. The next day, Bob Dole was saying it was a great idea, poor people needed the program. Why the change? Big ag called and told him to back the bill, it meant more money in the pocket of big ag.