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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:27 PM Sep 2016

Nation's largest police union endorses Trump

Source: The Hill

The nation's largest police union on Friday endorsed Donald Trump for president, lauding his commitment to police officers.

The Fraternal Order of Police gave the GOP presidential nominee its endorsement after he received support from more than two-thirds of the group's national board.

&quot Trump) has seriously looked at the issues facing law enforcement today. He understands and supports our priorities and our members believe he will make America safe again," said Chuck Canterbury, the FOP's national president.

"He's made a real commitment to America's law enforcement and we're proud to make a commitment to him and his campaign by endorsing his candidacy today."

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296342-nations-largest-police-union-endorses-trump

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Nation's largest police union endorses Trump (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2016 OP
Asshole authoritians Sanity Claws Sep 2016 #1
Full definition of fascism... oioioi Sep 2016 #2
Disgrace! I'll remember when they call asking for donations. nt No Vested Interest Sep 2016 #3
So, fascists support fascists? Renaissance Man Sep 2016 #4
+1 Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #61
Issues that matter most to law enforcement? haele Sep 2016 #5
The percentage of deplorable Trump supporters just went up again (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2016 #6
Next time they call, I will have something to tell them other than just no liberal N proud Sep 2016 #7
I just keep losing respect for the police. Jim__ Sep 2016 #8
Does anyone know who they endorsed in 2008 or 2012? yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #9
Thanks for all the concern. Kingofalldems Sep 2016 #39
Found that they refused to endorse Romney in 2012. yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #10
Not surprised in the least. n/t geardaddy Sep 2016 #11
Please put this in perspective: FigTree Sep 2016 #12
Sure atreides1 Sep 2016 #15
thank you. barbtries Sep 2016 #18
Sure - by comparison "There are about 33 million self-professed Baptists in the United States, makin jtuck004 Sep 2016 #36
Would that apply to Hispanics? FigTree Sep 2016 #49
I much more care about the 45 million in poverty. Silly discussions like the above are jtuck004 Sep 2016 #50
There are about 250000 members in this union. That they would support the racist is deplorable. I still_one Sep 2016 #55
Fuck them & this is from ............ mrmpa Sep 2016 #13
Trump has the support of a group of people that would cover for killing a African American rockfordfile Sep 2016 #14
What a shame MFM008 Sep 2016 #16
i guess police barbtries Sep 2016 #17
Trump wants to create a police state, why wouldn't the cops union endorse him. It is job security olddad56 Sep 2016 #19
I don't believe that this necessarily represents how most police BootinUp Sep 2016 #20
He'll support you as much as he supports veterans. muntrv Sep 2016 #21
The FOP is not a union . . FairWinds Sep 2016 #22
Removes any doubt that cops are, in fact, the enemy. PSPS Sep 2016 #23
I don't agree with that rockfordfile Sep 2016 #24
Free room and drinks at the Trump Hotel of their choice BlueInPhilly Sep 2016 #25
no more donations for them... NotHardly Sep 2016 #32
I'm 68 and I have lost almost all respect for police over the last few sinkingfeeling Sep 2016 #26
Authoritarians stick together SHRED Sep 2016 #27
They want their military toys back LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2016 #28
This sounds like some right wing Nut Job organization The_Casual_Observer Sep 2016 #29
As a former law enforcement officer, I apologize, and I am mightily ashamed for & of them... NotHardly Sep 2016 #30
Disgusting. This is the kind of thing that gives police a bad reputation. DLnyc Sep 2016 #31
God bless our police state. JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #33
Fuck The Po-lice. Nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2016 #34
They can't wait to get their brown shirts and boots under an administration of Der Trumpenfuhrer mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #35
Good Grief! annarbor Sep 2016 #37
Fuck the upholders of the thin blue line. ancianita Sep 2016 #38
They're looking forward to Trump's death camps. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #40
It's not a union Lucretius Sep 2016 #41
Some of the local lodges function as unions TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #45
Well, we certainly know where they have cast their lot -- with the brainless one. LuckyLib Sep 2016 #42
Who did they endorse in 2012? 2008? 2004? 2000? 1996? vkkv Sep 2016 #43
Found info:: Hillary NEVER AKED for their endorsement! They felt "snubbed".. awwwwww. vkkv Sep 2016 #44
... they were very nearly wallflowers!!!! crosinski Sep 2016 #56
Well, that tells us all we need to know about the F.O.P. malthaussen Sep 2016 #46
The Police just declared that they are not for the people. HuckleB Sep 2016 #47
Most of Them dream of having a police state, but I'm sure they won't all vote for Drumpf judesedit Sep 2016 #48
Gee, I'm trying not to hate cops. roody Sep 2016 #51
They know that if he is in charge, they will be able to get away with more police brutality. Rex Sep 2016 #52
In their 100 year history they have only endorsed a Democrat once bluestateguy Sep 2016 #53
Absolutely correct IVoteDFL Sep 2016 #58
Your concern has been noted GummyBearz Sep 2016 #54
Fascist brownshirts. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #57
What a shocker! NHDEMFORLIFE Sep 2016 #59
I am a long time union member and supporter of labor. mysuzuki2 Sep 2016 #60
The FOP is a fascist organization. Dawson Leery Sep 2016 #62

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
2. Full definition of fascism...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:29 PM
Sep 2016

Full Definition of fascism

often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
4. So, fascists support fascists?
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:32 PM
Sep 2016

Authoritarians support authoritarians.

Water is wet.

If anyone has any questions about the status of policing in this country (and how horrible it is for minorities), they can look no further than this tacit endorsement by the Fraternal Order of Police for a known demagogue, racist, sexist, and xenophobe - Donald Trump.

haele

(12,660 posts)
5. Issues that matter most to law enforcement?
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:33 PM
Sep 2016

Guess that means the issue most important to them is "Gives us the leeway to keep everyone in line...and insist they respect our authority"

Haele

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
7. Next time they call, I will have something to tell them other than just no
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:36 PM
Sep 2016

But Fuck NO as long as they are supporting an asshole like Trump.

Jim__

(14,077 posts)
8. I just keep losing respect for the police.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:43 PM
Sep 2016

Now they endorse an openly racist presidential candidate.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
9. Does anyone know who they endorsed in 2008 or 2012?
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:45 PM
Sep 2016

If McCain and Romney no big deal. If president Obama then this is not good.

FigTree

(347 posts)
12. Please put this in perspective:
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:52 PM
Sep 2016

for the sake of those cops who are not assholes.
There are about 1.1 millions persons employed on a full time basis by PDs. The frat-boys would then represent 30% of the force.
Among these, there are 765.000 sworn personnel (cops with arresting power). The frat-boys would then represent 43% of the force. Maybe less if you count the part-timers.
That's about the proportion of the pig's voters.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
15. Sure
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:59 PM
Sep 2016

As soon as the rest of them step up and denounce this support of a fascist, racist, bigot, who hates women and wants to screw his own daughter...then I'll put this in perspective!

Besides 30% is not a small number, especially when they wear badges and carry guns!!!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
36. Sure - by comparison "There are about 33 million self-professed Baptists in the United States, makin
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 04:47 PM
Sep 2016

"There are about 33 million self-professed Baptists in the United States, making them the second largest religious grouping in the US, following the 79 million Roman Catholics. About 16 million Baptists belong to congregations affiliated with Southern Baptist Convention, the largest such confederation of Baptists. "
-wiki

Only about 16 million southern baptists, but that set contains the most avowedly racist "Christians" we have, with the same negative view toward race as much of the country. They just differ in behavior and their willingness to acknowledge it. (My experience of growing up amongst my neighbors.).

You don't have to have a large group to be perfectly representative.

FigTree

(347 posts)
49. Would that apply to Hispanics?
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 02:08 PM
Sep 2016

30% of whom actively support the pig. Are these 30% "perfectly representative" of the group called "Hispanics"?
The deplorable lives in a 2 dimension world, without perspective. Do we want to live in the same world?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
50. I much more care about the 45 million in poverty. Silly discussions like the above are
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 02:26 PM
Sep 2016

a waste of time. We could talk about the point that the size of the group makes no difference as demonstrated, but it seems the argument is now more important to others, and just ignored by some. Typical.

Btw - using the term "deplorable" is now serving to depress the vote, and being used as a badge of honor by the opposition. Most of the folks that are truly on this side have moved on.

That's what I am gonna do now.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
55. There are about 250000 members in this union. That they would support the racist is deplorable. I
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:47 PM
Sep 2016

could understand if they endorsed Johnson, but instead choose to endorse the candidate of the KKK and white supremacist groups

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
13. Fuck them & this is from ............
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:52 PM
Sep 2016

one who founded (along with 3 others) a University Police Officers Union in 1985. The Union is still there, though I'm not.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
14. Trump has the support of a group of people that would cover for killing a African American
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 02:58 PM
Sep 2016

Trump has the support of a group of people that would cover for killing a African American in an heartbeat.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
17. i guess police
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:06 PM
Sep 2016

would like to see a police state?

i felt sick when i saw the headline. sick, the way this country is.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
25. Free room and drinks at the Trump Hotel of their choice
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:44 PM
Sep 2016

Now I will answer the phone when they call and solicit donations and simply tell them I cannot give to a union that thinks racism and bigotry are acceptable.

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
26. I'm 68 and I have lost almost all respect for police over the last few
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:45 PM
Sep 2016

years. I was raised on 'the police are your friends' motto.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
29. This sounds like some right wing Nut Job organization
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:55 PM
Sep 2016

Its not a labor union, it's some kind of club.

What bullshit.

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
30. As a former law enforcement officer, I apologize, and I am mightily ashamed for & of them...
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 03:59 PM
Sep 2016

I have no other words.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
31. Disgusting. This is the kind of thing that gives police a bad reputation.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 04:00 PM
Sep 2016

The rank and file should raise hell. Or else accept that the rest of us are going to see them as fascist enablers.

annarbor

(570 posts)
37. Good Grief!
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 04:51 PM
Sep 2016

This retired cop think it's just sad. I know many in my profession that would never, ever, vote for Trump.
I, like many of my close friends, are voting for Hillary. It is about the Supreme Court appointments, gay and lesbian rights, women's rights, the rights of people of color and the fear that our position in this world will be forever harmed if Trump is elected. Please believe that the FOP does not speak for the majority...

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
45. Some of the local lodges function as unions
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 06:34 PM
Sep 2016

But certainly not all. Furthermore, there are about 800K sworn officers in the US and less than half belong to the organization. I imagine this was a decision made by the higher ups.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
44. Found info:: Hillary NEVER AKED for their endorsement! They felt "snubbed".. awwwwww.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 05:46 PM
Sep 2016

The FOP did not endorse a presidential candidate in 2012 after backing Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2008.


The group has not endorsed a Democratic presidential nominee since Bill Clinton in 1996.

crosinski

(411 posts)
56. ... they were very nearly wallflowers!!!!
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 06:18 PM
Sep 2016

No one else asked them!!!!! This was sooooo embarrassing for them!!!! it was like a cotillion, and and and, OHMYGAWDOHMYGAWDOHMYGAWD, no one had ASKED THEM to dance!!!!!!!! They HAD to give Trump their endorsement! What would all the other unions think if no one had asked them to endorse!

sheesh.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
46. Well, that tells us all we need to know about the F.O.P.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:35 PM
Sep 2016

I'm sure they're just a few bad apples.

-- Mal

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
47. The Police just declared that they are not for the people.
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 07:40 PM
Sep 2016

They just confessed that we need to completely overhaul the entire system, including a mass of the employees.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
52. They know that if he is in charge, they will be able to get away with more police brutality.
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 03:15 PM
Sep 2016

Seems that is all the Fraternal Order cares about.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
53. In their 100 year history they have only endorsed a Democrat once
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:36 PM
Sep 2016

Clinton in 1996.

Pandering to them would only alienate the young black supporters she needs.

IVoteDFL

(417 posts)
58. Absolutely correct
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 01:17 PM
Sep 2016

An endorsement from the FOP isn't one Clinton needed whatsoever. In fact it might hurt more than it helps.

And for the folks saying they'll never donate again, I ask what the hell did you donate for in the first place? What other "unions" ask for outside donations? If they did the FOP would always have been just about last on my list.

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
60. I am a long time union member and supporter of labor.
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 03:24 PM
Sep 2016

The Fraternal Order of Police are NOT my union brothers and sisters.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
62. The FOP is a fascist organization.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:23 PM
Sep 2016

They would not endorse Hillary. She stands for the right of minorities. With that said, law enforcement "unions" should not be allowed. They lobby to keep bad cops and for more laws to imprison people with.

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