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brooklynite

(94,608 posts)
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:54 AM Sep 2016

Giuliani: I'd skip next debates if I were Trump

Source: Politico

Donald Trump should skip the next two debates unless he gets special guarantees from the moderators, former New York mayor and top Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani told reporters after the debate.

Lester Holt, the NBC News anchor who moderated the debate, should be “ashamed of himself,” Giuliani said after the debate. He said Holt was wrong to attempt to fact-check Trump on the constitutionality of stop-and-frisk and his claimed opposition to the Iraq War.
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“If I were Donald Trump I wouldn’t participate in another debate unless I was promised that the journalist would act like a journalist and not an incorrect, ignorant fact checker,” Giuliani said. “The moderator would have to promise that there would be a moderator and not a fact checker and in two particular cases an enormously ignorant, completely misinformed fact checker.”

“If you wonder why Donald Trump thinks that the press is a left-wing basically oriented group, Lester Holt proved it tonight," he added.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/giuliani-trump-debates-228756



And as someone who was too afraid to run against Hillary, Rudy should know.
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Giuliani: I'd skip next debates if I were Trump (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2016 OP
Oh I bet he will too. SummerSnow Sep 2016 #1
He won't rpannier Sep 2016 #9
Just saw "media critic" Howie Kurtz complaining that Holts corrected Trump more than Hillary Midnight Writer Sep 2016 #16
Yeah. Cuz it couldn't be that Trump lied more rpannier Sep 2016 #35
I bet teachers leave more red ink on the papers of ill prepared students who make things up than on karynnj Sep 2016 #52
Sheesh, what a fucking crybaby. DinahMoeHum Sep 2016 #2
Lubed or not? Chicago1980 Sep 2016 #29
Unlubed, covered with extra coarse sandpaper. nt longship Sep 2016 #30
With splinters, just for good measure! GWC58 Sep 2016 #48
50 grit. Volaris Sep 2016 #61
yeah all those left-wing republicans like lester holt. unblock Sep 2016 #3
Pathetic… dhill926 Sep 2016 #4
OMG! A journalist fact checking!!!!! uppityperson Sep 2016 #5
Yes, fact checking needs to stop from here on out. ffr Sep 2016 #26
Rudy says Donny needs a "license to lie" in order to win debates. nt TeamPooka Sep 2016 #6
Here Rudy this is for you.... yellowcanine Sep 2016 #7
May as well give up and surrender C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #8
Wow... deathrind Sep 2016 #10
Rudy needs to give him manly lessons gwheezie Sep 2016 #11
Ain't life sweet tonight. sheshe2 Sep 2016 #22
rudy needs lessons mjinnj Sep 2016 #53
Ok, a question to those that lived in or near New York City during the 1990s.... 4lbs Sep 2016 #12
He wasn't always this bad rebecca_herman Sep 2016 #19
He was always a blatant racist and people voted for him, just like they're voting for Trump. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2016 #25
Not to be pedantic but leftynyc Sep 2016 #45
I did not BlueInPhilly Sep 2016 #51
Call the WAAAAMBULANCE!!!!! BootinUp Sep 2016 #13
And people think t-rump is fit for office? Iliyah Sep 2016 #14
This is what came across so loudly underthematrix Sep 2016 #15
He is certifiable. eom sheshe2 Sep 2016 #23
Giuliani made so much money off of 9-11. rusty quoin Sep 2016 #17
Conservative Strategy #1: if things don't go your way, blame the media Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2016 #18
Wow, after his crash and burn, Trump must have cried uncle to Rudy. truthisfreedom Sep 2016 #20
isnt jounalism SUPPOSED to be about fact checking? CarrieLynne Sep 2016 #21
I smell a set up. Further lowering expectations. Rope-a-dope strategy. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2016 #24
Translation: "Trump got his clock cleaned" Warpy Sep 2016 #27
There is another option. Trump could always not lie Renew Deal Sep 2016 #28
Trump would have to have his mouth wired shut for that to happen jmowreader Sep 2016 #58
They thought Holt was fact checking too much? world wide wally Sep 2016 #31
No kidding. LisaM Sep 2016 #63
this reads like the Onion Skittles Sep 2016 #32
Rudy said Black Lives Matter is a racist organization.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #33
i think i hate this scumbag more than trump JI7 Sep 2016 #34
Mussolini and Hitler part Deux rpannier Sep 2016 #37
I mistook the headline rpannier Sep 2016 #36
Translation: Trump should be allowed to lie, ad lib King_Klonopin Sep 2016 #38
I love how Giuliani apparently thinks a "journalist" anoNY42 Sep 2016 #39
What the hell does "ignorant fact checker" even mean? underpants Sep 2016 #42
Rudy has been over at FOX "News" too long..... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #59
Trump should quit, he's a national embarrassment bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #40
Knew it. They are going to go after Lester. underpants Sep 2016 #41
Good, another repub for hrc wordpix Sep 2016 #54
Giuliani is such an evil idiot. Helen Borg Sep 2016 #43
All they can do at this point is whine rumdude Sep 2016 #44
Yeah you sure would Mr. 911, and no one would even miss you. lonestarnot Sep 2016 #46
Lester Holt SUCKED as a moderator obamanut2012 Sep 2016 #47
I Gotta Disagree RobinA Sep 2016 #50
"Ignorant fact checker" LakeArenal Sep 2016 #49
Giuliani using Political Correctness to game the refs bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #55
Hey, Rudy. You know what job one of a journalist is? Fact-checking. (n/t) Iggo Sep 2016 #56
So is this how he will act with Foreign Dignitaries? LynneSin Sep 2016 #57
For the same reason you skipped running against Hillary in 2000, Rudi. forest444 Sep 2016 #60
Ghouliani is obviously stupid ... Jopin Klobe Sep 2016 #62
Trump says the debates are on. Eugene Sep 2016 #64
Take this advice Donald. Shoonra Sep 2016 #65
I had forgotten about that dhol82 Sep 2016 #76
Bullies are really cowards. Doitnow Sep 2016 #66
'Special guarantees' and 'promises' ? wtf ? liberalla Sep 2016 #67
Yeah, other than the verifiable fact that almost 80% of the media is owned by right-wing or 4lbs Sep 2016 #68
The Trump foreign policy - Run away when challenged by better words keithbvadu2 Sep 2016 #69
Rudy is trying to pave the way for Donald to have an excuse to run/hide. nt MADem Sep 2016 #70
He SHOULD quit the debates. roamer65 Sep 2016 #71
Rudy: "I'd take my ball and go home!" muntrv Sep 2016 #72
Baka! yuiyoshida Sep 2016 #73
Not wanting fact checking david4justice49 Sep 2016 #74
Giuliani's recommendation for a winning presidential strategy . . . MrModerate Sep 2016 #75
Who's reputation has suffered most for supporting Trump? Funtatlaguy Sep 2016 #77

Midnight Writer

(21,770 posts)
16. Just saw "media critic" Howie Kurtz complaining that Holts corrected Trump more than Hillary
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:17 AM
Sep 2016

Hmmmm. I wonder why Trump would be corrected more than Clinton?

I KNOW! Mainstream media bias!

I knew I would figure it out!

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
35. Yeah. Cuz it couldn't be that Trump lied more
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:00 AM
Sep 2016

for my money, Kurtz is the worst of all of them
He's the idiot who thinks (for some reason) that he's smart

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
52. I bet teachers leave more red ink on the papers of ill prepared students who make things up than on
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 09:26 AM
Sep 2016

the papers submitted by competent good students. I never saw that as bias.

I never understood why Kurtz was given slots where he looked at bias - he has leaned to the right at least since 2004. (I do not remember seeing him before than)

ffr

(22,671 posts)
26. Yes, fact checking needs to stop from here on out.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:58 AM
Sep 2016

Donald should cower away from further debates and getting his ass kicked by a grandmother.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
10. Wow...
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:07 AM
Sep 2016

Presuming that is the totality of Giuliani's remark the fact that he did not slip 9/11 in there is amazing. Most of the time his comments consist of a noun,verb and 9/11.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
12. Ok, a question to those that lived in or near New York City during the 1990s....
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:08 AM
Sep 2016

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU VOTE THIS ASSHAT IN AS MAYOR?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?


Just a question.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
45. Not to be pedantic but
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:24 AM
Sep 2016

you could only vote for rudy if you were IN NYC, not near it. I live near it and couldn't vote against him. He ran better campaigns and was MUCH more liberal than he pretends to be now - pro-choice (right down to late term), very pro gun control - he got hit in the head on 9/11 and has been an imbecile ever since.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
17. Giuliani made so much money off of 9-11.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:17 AM
Sep 2016

He goes to dinner parties with scum who made loads of money in Iraq, and surely they back scum Don the Con. All of them are separate from us.

If they don't win, they try to change the rules. I wish that most of America would figure this out.

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
27. Translation: "Trump got his clock cleaned"
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:06 AM
Sep 2016

I fully expect him to come up with scheduling conlicts for the next dates.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
58. Trump would have to have his mouth wired shut for that to happen
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:26 PM
Sep 2016

Trump lies so much, if the bastard walked in wringing wet and told me it was raining, I would go outside and look up. I'm not sure I believe him when he says he's Donald Trump and I definitely don't believe anything else he says.

world wide wally

(21,745 posts)
31. They thought Holt was fact checking too much?
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:08 AM
Sep 2016

Shit, he turned the entire debate over to Trump to host after the first 5 minutes!

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
37. Mussolini and Hitler part Deux
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:04 AM
Sep 2016

Only this time, less successful, less politically skillful, less intelligent and less capable
But as we all know the sequel is never as good as the original

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
36. I mistook the headline
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:02 AM
Sep 2016

I was thinking Ghouliani was criticizing Il Douche's performance and was suggesting if he couldn't get better he shouldn't do it at all
Foolish me

 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
39. I love how Giuliani apparently thinks a "journalist"
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 06:22 AM
Sep 2016

isn't supposed to be concerned with "facts". Giuliani does not want the moderators to be journalists, because then it would be their duty to call out Trump's lies. He wants them to confine themselves to mouthing the questions.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
59. Rudy has been over at FOX "News" too long.....
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:35 PM
Sep 2016

He's been wallowing in propaganda for so long that he doesn't even know what the facts are anymore.

See, in their world Hillary had Joe Wilson killed at Benghazi because he was going to admit they had an affair.

 

rumdude

(448 posts)
44. All they can do at this point is whine
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:23 AM
Sep 2016

During the debate Trump was whining about all the mean negative ads Clinton had run against him.

AS IF Trump hadn't been brutally lobbing insults at Clinton and many, many others for months now.

They're all bullies - and like all bullies, once beaten, they start up with their whining and crying.

Pathetic.

obamanut2012

(26,082 posts)
47. Lester Holt SUCKED as a moderator
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:43 AM
Sep 2016

And let Trump do whatever the hell he wanted.

hahahhahah Rudy!

This people cannot handle it if there is even a semi-level playing field.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
50. I Gotta Disagree
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 08:01 AM
Sep 2016

I thought Holt to a certain extent let Trump be Trump. Which is the best way for us to win this thing. His base isn't going to change their minds, it's the "undecided" (as hard to believe that such people exist at this point as that may be) who need a good look at unchained Trump.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
57. So is this how he will act with Foreign Dignitaries?
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 11:36 AM
Sep 2016

Foreign Dignitaries -whether allies or enemies, are not going to cater to Donald's temper tantrums.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
60. For the same reason you skipped running against Hillary in 2000, Rudi.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 12:38 PM
Sep 2016

You didn't want that can of whoop-ass.

If you want to be in politics, you gotta man up, Ms. Rudi.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
62. Ghouliani is obviously stupid ...
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
Sep 2016

... "I wouldn’t participate in another debate unless I was promised that the journalist would act like a journalist ..." ...

... "The moderator would have to promise that there would be a moderator and not a fact checker ..." ...

.... The God damned fool has no idea what journalism is ...

Eugene

(61,903 posts)
64. Trump says the debates are on.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:16 PM
Sep 2016

Source: Associated Press

The Latest: Trump Says He'll Be at Next Presidential Debates

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON — Sep 27, 2016, 3:07 PM ET

The Latest on the U.S. presidential race (all times EDT):

3:05 p.m.

Donald Trump says he will participate in the next two presidential debates.

The Republican presidential contender was asked by reporters about his intentions during a Tuesday afternoon appearance in Miami.

He said "sure" when asked by reporters whether he would participate in the subsequent debates.

Also on hand was Trump adviser Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor. Giuliani suggested the night before that he would not attend the upcoming debates if he were Trump.

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Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-trump-pageant-winner-worst-42387005

Shoonra

(523 posts)
65. Take this advice Donald.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:19 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:19 AM - Edit history (1)

Frankly an empty space would do the Trump campaign less damage than a live Donald Trump does.

Giuliani's law firm has been Trump's law firm for several years, so Rudy is not making these suggestions gratiutously as a mere Trump Chump, but for pay as Trump's own attorney. Listen to your lawyer Donald.


But people forget that Rudy Giuliani had his own little meltdown right after Sept 11th. The attack occurred on the day of the NY Primaries, and Rudy had the bright idea that he should simply cancel the November election for the next mayor and continue himself in office "for the duration". Considering that he has now forgotten that the US was attacked at all while W was President, that "duration" might have continued to the present day. But his suggestion was immediately rejected by everyone else, including his own party and all the other lawyers in his administration.

liberalla

(9,249 posts)
67. 'Special guarantees' and 'promises' ? wtf ?
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:34 PM
Sep 2016

like what??

need to know the questions beforehand? needs notes/cheat sheet he can refer to?

needs a 'lifeline'? like phone-a-friend, ask-an-expert, cue cards?

maybe kellyanne can sit next to him...

sheesh!

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
68. Yeah, other than the verifiable fact that almost 80% of the media is owned by right-wing or
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:20 PM
Sep 2016

conservatives..... he's right about that liberal media....


keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
69. The Trump foreign policy - Run away when challenged by better words
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 06:52 PM
Sep 2016

Putin would pee all over Trump but he already owns the Donald.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
71. He SHOULD quit the debates.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 11:41 PM
Sep 2016

He's a useless fuckwit and it really is a waste of time for people to listen to his drivel.

yuiyoshida

(41,833 posts)
73. Baka!
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:50 AM
Sep 2016

HOW freaking stupid can he be? OF Course we want stuff Fact checked. What?? You think he should be allowed to stand before the American people and Lie his ass off??

"Why Yes, I did Once scale the Empire State Building in only my bedroom Slippers, and I had a cigar too, ...yeah that's the ticket!?"

david4justice49

(11 posts)
74. Not wanting fact checking
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:53 AM
Sep 2016

is very suspect in and of itself. Ghoulliani is one of the most corrupt con-artist of his time. He meshes well with drumpfs campaign.

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