Didn't send your kid to war? Maybe you can send $$
Source: AP
July 4, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Didn't send your kid to war? Maybe you can send $$
By Pauline Jelinek
The Associated Press
Washington If you have military-age children who have not served in this decade's wars, then you owe a debt meaning money to those who did. That's the premise of a new fundraising effort by three wealthy American families who want to help U.S. veterans of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Every non-military family should give something, they said. The affluent should give large sums. No one should think of it as charity, but rather a moral obligation, an alternative way to serve, perhaps the price of being spared the anxiety that comes with having a loved one in a war zone.
"We have three able-bodied, wonderful, wonderful children, all of whom are devoted to doing very, very good things around social justice; and we could not be more proud of them," said Philip Green, a local businessman who devised the fundraising idea. "We're also delighted that none of them had to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan."
Green says he and his wife came to look at that as unfair: "I realized that there were parents just like me down the street, down the block ... who did not have that luxury" and were suffering sleepless nights and anxiety, "which I was able to avoid."
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hobbit709
(41,694 posts)stockholmer
(3,751 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I did not bring my son into this world to fight for corporate profits.
They are also wrong about some not having a choice. All of them had a choice, no one was drafted into the service.
Who was it that said "what if they gave a war and nobody showed up"?
Bozvotros
(785 posts)This group of veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan have been given far more than previous veterans....especially Vietnam Veterans (but even they are catching up). A large proportion of these most recent vets will get lifetime disability pensions of up to 3000 a month and free health care. Neither Bin Laden or Saddam presented a real risk to our sovereignty so nobody in these wars was fighting to keep us free. In a few years whatever "progress" was made over there will likely be erased. While I appreciate the fact that we have a potent military and people willing to serve, fight and die for my freedom, it would be far better to honor our soldiers by only sending them into conflicts worthy of their sacrifice. Probably the better thing to do would be for everyone to send money to the orphans and cripples we made "liberating" those countries.
agent46
(1,262 posts)cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)pay for veterans.
JVS
(61,935 posts)StateApparatus
(24 posts)*Ahem* no. The way I see it, I'm owed a refund for the many misguided, improper military expeditions our nation has embarked upon since I started paying taxes. Add to that the banking and auto industry bailouts and subsidizing corporate profits and tax breaks, and I'm owed quite a bit of money.
Militarist, right-wing, sanctimonious feces.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Wake the fuck up, man...This entire scheme is just a money laundering scam/campaign slush fund/tax dodge for the one-percenters wrapped up in faux patriotism...
I was amused at how much they strained themselves pretending they "care" so much in the story...
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)No one could be that damned gullible
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)The last time I checked, you had to be 18 to serve in the military. How can a parent force their adult child to enlist?
Mike_Valentine
(35 posts)... they wouldn't "let" their child serve in the military.
Not their call either way but parents cling... My recruiter buddies have stories for days about enlistees parents.
DavidDvorkin
(19,485 posts)That's how German parents were supposed to refer to the loss of a soldier son in battle during the Nazi era.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)End the goddamned wars.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)dtom67
(634 posts)Sounds just like the idea that the tax system is unfair because the poor do not pay.
Maybe if the gov't didn't just give the money to contractors for nothing, you wouldn't need to have a fundraiser.
This is an apologist for the well-to-do trying to assuage their conscience because they accidentally thought about the inherent disparity between who fights the wars and who profits from the wars.
Or maybe they are just disingenuous assholes trying to engage in some doublespeak.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)Do corporations owe any debts to veterans?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)For starters...
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)fujiyama
(15,185 posts)I think it's almost a bit insulting to those who serve and their families. Like cutting a check to them is in any way equivalent to having their loved one sacrifice themselves for politicians' whims.
How about this wealthy folks? We actually end the wars, bring those troops home, and utilize them in rebuilding our own country - our infrastructure mainly. We could use the immense technical and leadership skills at home in many ways. Unfortunately for many of you 1%ers, it means fewer defense contracts. I think that's a real sacrifice worth making.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)I am paying for those wars already with a wrecked economy, a vastly more unsettled planet, and the inconvenience of having to pretend I'm Canadian when I travel outside the US.
American military people were sold a bill of goods. Their leaders insisted that they had to go to war to protect freedom and the American homeland. It was, is, and always shall be bullshit.
This is a charity plain and simple. If you support their goals and methods, send 'em your money. But they don't get to put a moral obligation on me for wars that I resisted to the extent an individual citizen can. Besides which, I went to Iraq as a civilian to try to clean up the mess (which was not entirely of US making), so I'm pretty comfortable I've done my bit.
bananas
(27,509 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)It says 75 percent of the target recruit-age
population of 17-24 year-olds is unqualified due
to health problems (mostly related to obesity),
drug or alcohol histories, or too little education
(no high school diploma).
The CDC says obesity in America is at epidemic levels.
Could it be an act of self-preservation, a survival mechanism?
Have American parents been fattening up their kids as a way of protecting them, so they would be passed over by the military?
marble falls
(57,172 posts)jhasp
(101 posts)This they went so my children won't have to bull is propagated by the Selective Service system. The SSS is barbaric. If the US government can't find enough willing cannon fodder then it is a good sign that the war is unjust.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)They were the ones that put them there in the first place.
YankeyMCC
(8,401 posts)sign up or pay someone $100 or $200 to take your place.
Oh how democratic!
surrealAmerican
(11,363 posts)There is no such thing as "military-age children". They are adults, and as such are responsible for their own decisions.