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brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:23 PM Oct 2016

Donald Trump Tried to Fire Nancy O’Dell After She Rejected His Sexual Advances

Source: Daily Beast

Less than two years after a female journalist supposedly rebuffed Donald Trump’s sexual advances—as heard on newly discovered video—he allegedly tried to have her fired from one of his beauty pageants.

On Friday, The Washington Post revealed video of the Republican presidential nominee bragging to Billy Bush about non-consensually groping women (a.k.a, sexual assault): “When you’re a star, they let you do it—you can do anything,” Trump said in the unearthed 2005 Access Hollywood footage. “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”

...snip...

That married woman (identified as “Nancy” by Trump) was subsequently identified by Access Hollywood as former host Nancy O’Dell during the show’s Friday night episode.

...snip...

In 2007, TMZ reported that the real-estate mogul wanted to kick O’Dell to the curb as Miss USA host because he allegedly didn’t like the way she looked while she was several months pregnant. (Trump’s people did not deny the report at the time, and simply refused to comment.)

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/07/donald-trump-tried-to-fire-nancy-o-dell-after-she-rejected-his-sexual-advances.html

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Donald Trump Tried to Fire Nancy O’Dell After She Rejected His Sexual Advances (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2016 OP
There really has no rock bottom for this Rose Siding Oct 2016 #1
I agree but I bet he will get many votes, he is very disrespectful. Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #2
Just when I think he can't go any lower True_Blue Oct 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #21
The rock just keeps sinking. nt aaaaaa5a Oct 2016 #26
Hey, Donald, grab this p***y OldRedneck Oct 2016 #3
It's Rousey obamanut2012 Oct 2016 #7
Still a Romda fan here! colorado_ufo Oct 2016 #15
He claims it was a 'private conversation.' In front of 7 other people including a camera crew? Shrike47 Oct 2016 #4
The hits just keep coming. n/t sarge43 Oct 2016 #5
If this is true it really magnifies what's wrong with this whole story. spooky3 Oct 2016 #6
He's like Captain Sternn in the movie Heavy Metal Frank Cannon Oct 2016 #8
He should be chopped into little bitty bits and BURIED ALIVE!!!!!! /nt localroger Oct 2016 #11
HANGINGS TOO GOOD FOR HIM ... BURNINGS TOO GOOD FOR HIM!!!! brett_jv Oct 2016 #32
I really can't see Trump dressing up as a nun jmowreader Oct 2016 #12
AWWW ... GIMME A BREAK!!! brett_jv Oct 2016 #33
You know what the best part of that whole sequence was... jmowreader Oct 2016 #34
Of course I must acknowledge the blatantly exploitative nature of the movie, since it's DU ... brett_jv Oct 2016 #36
WOW. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #9
"way she looked"? Melania was 3 months pregnant. Advanced enough for Donald J tRump to know. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #10
If Melania doesn't kick his sorry ass to the curb after this, then she has absolutely catbyte Oct 2016 #13
How low can this human debris go? workinclasszero Oct 2016 #14
I'm going to say something that I know will cause backlash. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #17
You have got to be kidding. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2016 #18
Yeah, and Paul Ryan poses in his little work out shorts and tank top Midnight Writer Oct 2016 #19
(Check your pocket) 21st century women are not allowed to look like Barbie Dolls? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #20
Your entry didn't answer the question about play things. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #25
We weren't talking about toys. We were talking about women. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #29
More to the point. "American Culture" SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #30
I think you have it backward. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2016 #22
Bingo! athena Oct 2016 #24
But ... where does that end? brett_jv Oct 2016 #35
I agree. There is a kind of war between the sexes that jerks like Limbaugh keep alive. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #27
Trump "doesn't like the way pregnant women look" mainer Oct 2016 #23
She was not only married, but pregnant? Warpy Oct 2016 #28
Remember the "GOP Get Out of my Panties" Campaign? StrayKat Oct 2016 #31

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
16. Just when I think he can't go any lower
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:13 AM
Oct 2016

He exceeds my expectations. Trump is by far the absolute worst candidate the Republicans ever had. I could find a better candidate for them just radomly picking someone from the phonebook.

Response to True_Blue (Reply #16)

obamanut2012

(26,079 posts)
7. It's Rousey
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:35 PM
Oct 2016

And, as a huge MMA fan, ex champ -- Amanda Nunes holds the bantam strap now, and could kick Trump's ass way better than Rousey could.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
4. He claims it was a 'private conversation.' In front of 7 other people including a camera crew?
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:31 PM
Oct 2016

He was bragging, he didn't care who heard him.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
8. He's like Captain Sternn in the movie Heavy Metal
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:41 PM
Oct 2016

Is there ANY disgusting business he HASN'T been involved in?

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
12. I really can't see Trump dressing up as a nun
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:23 PM
Oct 2016

I CAN see him selling dope and running a preschoolers' prostitute ring, though.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
34. You know what the best part of that whole sequence was...
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 05:25 AM
Oct 2016

The bailiff stood up there and read off this massive list of atrocities Captain Sternn allegedly committed. It must have taken hours...then at the end..."and one moving violation."

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
36. Of course I must acknowledge the blatantly exploitative nature of the movie, since it's DU ...
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 05:41 AM
Oct 2016

It's TERRIBLE how ALL the women in the movie are drawn as unnaturally curvy and are basically all sex objects (cept the badass grey-haired lady at the end ... she's just hot, not slutty), etc ... and that's JUST not right ...

But man ... to a 16 year old suburban dude, at the midnight movies, high as a kite with his buddies, rocking to the classic rock tunes, and the babes, and the trippy stories, and the Loch-Nar ... back in the 80's ... that was one GREAT movie Pretty much the whole thing ... though it dragged a bit at the end ... or maybe that was my buzz wearing off ...

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
10. "way she looked"? Melania was 3 months pregnant. Advanced enough for Donald J tRump to know.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 10:57 PM
Oct 2016

The video seems to have been shot around Sept. 16, 2005.

Barron was born March 20, 2006.

It is 185 days from the start date to the end date, or 6 months, 4 days excluding the end date.

Donald J tRump talked like that while he knew his wife was three months pregnant.

catbyte

(34,393 posts)
13. If Melania doesn't kick his sorry ass to the curb after this, then she has absolutely
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:31 PM
Oct 2016

no self-respect, nor does she have respect for any other woman.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
17. I'm going to say something that I know will cause backlash.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:17 AM
Oct 2016

I looked for pics of her (Nancy O'Dell) when I read this and she has that typical beauty pagent look. She often poses in short skirts, has long legs, shows lots of cleavage, and topped off by long blond hair. In other words she looks like a Barbi Doll.

When women choose to emulate Barbi in order to have a tv career, they are inevitably going to be treated like a play thing by some powerful and vulgar men. His flaunting may be his downfall.

Watching the backround of the tv series "Versailles" on Ovation. It appears that Trump thinks of himself as another Louis. A mini-God living in a golden palace. When I watched "Mad Men" over the past couple of weeks, I clocked the obnoxious behavior of so many men in the series around the women. And Draper married a "Barbi".

How many men here in DU want to be surrounded by dolls rather than 21st century women? How many of those guys are voting in this ekection

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
19. Yeah, and Paul Ryan poses in his little work out shorts and tank top
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:56 AM
Oct 2016

So he should get a good groping, too?

He is a good looking guy with a killer bod, and he likes to show it off.

Why doesn't he get called a Ken Doll?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
20. (Check your pocket) 21st century women are not allowed to look like Barbie Dolls?
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 05:20 AM
Oct 2016
[font size = "+1"]Check your pocket. It contains 74 year old high tech invented by a Barbie Doll who was 20 years ahead of engineers of her time.[/font] And she is not the only highly intelligent woman who has chosen to be very attractive and sexual.

Any woman who chooses to look like a Barbie Doll can't be intelligent and feminist?

You judge books by covers only?

Yeah, you're getting backlash because of your illogical attitudes that also seem to be unenlightened.

At the beginning of World War II, [font size = "+1"]actress[/font] (actor, in today's terminology) Hedy Lamarr and composer George Antheil developed a radio guidance system for Allied torpedoes, which used spread spectrum and frequency hopping technology to defeat the threat of jamming by the Axis powers.[4] Though the US Navy did not adopt the technology until the 1960s, the principles of their work are now incorporated into modern GPS, Wi-Fi, CDMA and Bluetooth technology,[5][6][7] and this work led to their being inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame in 2014.


But, ... you want to control how she would choose to look and dress.

Lamarr's earliest inventions include an improved traffic stoplight and a tablet that would dissolve in water to create a carbonated drink. The beverage was unsuccessful; Lamarr herself said it tasted like Alka-Seltzer.[16]

With the ongoing World War, Lamarr was inspired to contribute to the war effort, designing a jam-proof radio guidance system for torpedoes. With the help of composer George Antheil, they drafted designs for a new frequency-hopping, spread-spectrum technology that they later patented.[17]

Lamarr and Antheil realized that radio-controlled torpedoes, which could be important in the naval war, could easily be jammed, thereby causing the torpedo to go off course.[18] With the knowledge she had gained about torpedoes from her first husband, and using a method similar to the way piano rolls work, they designed a frequency-hopping system that would continually change the radio signals sent to the torpedo.[19]

Their invention was granted a patent on 11 August 1942 (filed using her married name Hedy Kiesler Markey).[20] Yet, it was technologically difficult to implement, and the U.S. Navy was not receptive to considering inventions coming from outside the military at the time.[16] Only in 1962, at the time of the Cuban missile crisis, did an updated version of their design appear on Navy ships.


Perhaps your technical accomplishments exceed hers?

Your attitudes are those of men and their female collaborators who wish to control the sexuality of women. Women (and men) have every right to be sexually aware and active. But tRump has revealed himself to be a sociopathic predator who takes without permission.

In early 1933, at age 18, she starred in Gustav Machatý's film, Ecstasy (Ekstase in German, Extase in Czech), which was filmed in Prague, Czechoslovakia. Lamarr’s role was that of a neglected young wife married to an indifferent older man. The film became notorious for showing Lamarr's face in the throes of orgasm



SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
25. Your entry didn't answer the question about play things.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:17 PM
Oct 2016

Dolls are play things. Does this toy not have some effect on the perception of women who opt to imitate "it" by certain kinds of misogynistic men?

[link:[URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
30. More to the point. "American Culture"
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 06:29 PM
Oct 2016

From Alternet on the Trump phenom:

"I think it’s time to take a good look in the mirror: Is there any better symbol of what’s gone wrong in mainstream American culture than a greedy, superficial, sociopathic megalomaniac reality TV star who makes constant displays of fragile and toxic masculinity? These are the qualities we, as a culture, too often celebrate and encourage. Money and fame are our core values. Success at any price. Cut-throat business practices. Bullshit your way to the top. Be a “real” man. Isn’t that why it doesn’t seem to matter what Trump says or does, or how many lies he’s caught out on? Don’t a lot of us kind of admire his sheer gall? Is that why we can’t stop watching him?"


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/trump-perfectly-embodies-our-cultures-celebration-of-greed-narcissism-and-sociopathy/

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
22. I think you have it backward.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:22 AM
Oct 2016

Women who want to get into TV journalism are forced to look like Barbie. It's the system that needs to be changed.

Women really need to demand that they be allowed to just look like themselves.

athena

(4,187 posts)
24. Bingo!
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:12 PM
Oct 2016

We need to change the system that makes women think the only way to get ahead is by looking like a Barbie doll. Setting up the system, and then blaming the woman for it, is misogynistic.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
35. But ... where does that end?
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 05:31 AM
Oct 2016

I mean ... why do ostensibly self-respecting women not simply 'choose other careers' if this is 'the way things are'? Nobody HAS to be a beauty pageant host, now do they? Not exactly a highly skilled, nor a seemingly particularly desirable occupation ... is it?

And I mean ... where does this 'line of thinking' ... stop?

Should we all DEMAND that our TV newscasters, Hollywood actors, etc, etc ... NOT be chosen based on (mainly) looks, just because some of us are uncomfortable with this notion?

What about salespeople? Everyone knows they're very often chosen based on looks ... and that it CAN make a difference in terms of your sales ... what your salespeople look like. So ... should we BAN this practice, too ... make it illegal to not hire a 57year old, 400lb slovenly ex-plumber to sit at the front desk at your Manhattan headquarters, because it's 'not fair'?

Should we MAKE Guess hire unattractive models?

Hopefully you see my point ... where does this end?

IMHO, it's up to THE PEOPLE who are considering such positions to consider whether their 'looks' ... and how much work they're willing to put in afa 'sustaining' them go ... make them suitable for the career. And whether or not they MIND being a 'piece of good-looking meat'. It's up to the person to decide ... that's part of what makes the Country great.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
27. I agree. There is a kind of war between the sexes that jerks like Limbaugh keep alive.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:25 PM
Oct 2016

Media manipulation of the consumer is all pervasive. Until the 80's women could be on television without having been in "beauty pageants" or lookng like the "weather gals" on local channels across the country. "Eye Candy" is what is called. Thus is relatively new stuff that we can't avoid seeing. I used to enjoy watching pageants and trying to guess who would win. I've changed. I find them appalling now. A terrible promotion of Barbi Doll like appearance and demeaning to 95% of American women.

And have you seen the type of man who hangs around them and harrasses the contestants?

mainer

(12,022 posts)
23. Trump "doesn't like the way pregnant women look"
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:47 PM
Oct 2016

Sure, Donald. They're just giving birth to the next generation. Nothing compared to the important things you do.

A source tells TMZ that the enigmatic real estate mogul wanted to drop O'Dell as host because he doesn't like the way pregnant women look.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
28. She was not only married, but pregnant?
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 01:27 PM
Oct 2016

And he still tried to shove his tongue down her throat?

Ugh. This just keeps getting worse and worse. He can whine that Clinton did it too, but Clinton was never this aggressive and did take "no" for an answer and besides, "he did it too" is a defense that stopped working for most of us by the time we were five.

Katty Kay over at the BBC says it very well, "It's the way Mr Trump reveals that he sees women as a piece of sexual meat, something he wants, grabs, discards that is so damning."

Uh-huh, that's it all right. Well, this piece of meat has the vote and will be voting against this over entitled man child.

StrayKat

(570 posts)
31. Remember the "GOP Get Out of my Panties" Campaign?
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 07:29 PM
Oct 2016

Whenever I read or see more of this stuff covered, I keep hoping Nina Turner shows up in her pink T-shirt to throw some Joyce Beaty level shade.

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