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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:01 PM Oct 2016

There’s no longer any way for Republicans to boot Donald Trump from the ballot

Source: Washington Post

You may recall that we've been through this before. In early August, as Trump's poll numbers started to tank and as he was still embroiled in his fight with the parents of a Muslim soldier killed in Iraq, Republicans started murmuring about potentially replacing him as the nominee. The party can't simply call Donald Trump and tell him that he's no longer welcome; there are rules that guide how a nominee is replaced.

Josh Putnam, University of Georgia lecturer and expert on the machinations of the parties, told me at the time that the rule at issue was Rule 9. Rule 9 reads:

The Republican National Committee is hereby authorized and empowered to fill any and all vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise of the Republican candidate for President of the United States or the Republican candidate for Vice President of the United States, as nominated by the national convention, or the Republican National Committee may reconvene the national convention for the purpose of filling any such vacancies. Death, declination or otherwise. No "because we want to" clause.

"Let’s be clear here: The rule is intended to fill vacancies, not to lay the groundwork for a replacement," Putnam said. "Some have speculated that ‘otherwise’ is ambiguous. Taken out of context it is. However, under the provisions for filling vacancies, it clearly fills in any gap between death and declination (i.e.: an incapacitating illness, but one that leaves the nominee neither dead nor able to decline to run further). And that was the intention."

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/07/theres-no-longer-any-way-for-republicans-to-boot-donald-trump-from-the-ballot/

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There’s no longer any way for Republicans to boot Donald Trump from the ballot (Original Post) onehandle Oct 2016 OP
THEY CAN'T! The only option is for HIM to step down. nt napi21 Oct 2016 #1
We'd rather he didn't. We don't want to be Pencetrated. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #2
Voting has already begun. WAY too late for them to change horses. bullwinkle428 Oct 2016 #3
ITA True_Blue Oct 2016 #14
could vadermike Oct 2016 #4
The RNC doesn't have to replace Trump with Pence if Trump dropped out, they could choose anyone. still_one Oct 2016 #7
Glued to Trump. No way. nt onehandle Oct 2016 #9
No angrychair Oct 2016 #11
Pence could possibly beat Hilliary, But Ryan would be a formidable opponent...IMHO Old Vet Oct 2016 #18
Such timing. Much fail. Wow. nt retrowire Oct 2016 #5
Talk about an October Surprise. 47of74 Oct 2016 #6
He'll step off the ticket for cash. elehhhhna Oct 2016 #8
READ THE ARTICLE Doctor Jack Oct 2016 #10
You break it... Chicago1980 Oct 2016 #12
Somethings coming n/t Strelnikov_ Oct 2016 #13
"You made your bed, now lie in it!" King_Klonopin Oct 2016 #15
I should certainly hope not! Retired George Oct 2016 #16
Trump losing would be good, trump losing and the democracts taking back both houses would be great.. Old Vet Oct 2016 #19
"otherwise ... an incapacitating illness ..." JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2016 #17

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
2. We'd rather he didn't. We don't want to be Pencetrated.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:07 PM
Oct 2016

But in any case, tRump's name would still be at the top of most ballots.

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
14. ITA
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 12:32 AM
Oct 2016

Even if they could, it would be such a confusing mess changing candidates only 1 month away from the election. They would like a confused bunch of idiots and Hillary would still win anyway. There's really nothing they can do at this point.

still_one

(92,209 posts)
7. The RNC doesn't have to replace Trump with Pence if Trump dropped out, they could choose anyone.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:17 PM
Oct 2016

They would then have to organize a write-in campaign, since the ballots are already printed

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
11. No
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:25 PM
Oct 2016

Pence could not even get on the ballot in a significant number of states. Deadlines are long past. No state allows for the concept of "a vote for trump will now count as a vote for Pence" if trump falls off the ticket (or any candidate).
Most importantly, voting has started in many states, there is no 'pause' or 'restart' button. That would not be fair to the other candidates.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
10. READ THE ARTICLE
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 11:19 PM
Oct 2016

You guys keep asking "but what if he drops out". You have to read the article. It is addressed and they say it is nearly impossible to A. Field another candidate and B. Even if they could, it would be impossible for that candidate to get enough electoral votes.


Let's say, then, that the voters in Georgia cast their ballots for Trump with the understanding that the electors would then cast a ballot for Republican X. It would be hard for X to hit the necessary 270 electoral votes in that way, since in some states the results would still be bound to Trump. Unless, ThinkProgress' Ian Millhiser notes, the party challenged the constitutionality of rules binding electors. So that plan, then: the GOP convinces people to vote for Trump with the understanding that electors would vote for someone else -- illegally in some places -- and the Supreme Court would then approve the plan. Seems unlikely.

So that's it. The Republican candidate for president is now, and in 31 days will be, Donald J. Trump. In 1996, the party took a different approach when it became clear in October that Bob Dole wouldn't win: They let him sink or swim on his own.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
15. "You made your bed, now lie in it!"
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 04:15 AM
Oct 2016

And I hope he enjoys having his legs cut off as much as we will as we watch.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,344 posts)
17. "otherwise ... an incapacitating illness ..."
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 06:54 AM
Oct 2016

Donald's narcissism, his sociopath nature, and his terminal affluenza combine to form an illness that absolutely is unable to decline the nomination.

Can the repugs use that to push Trump from the ballot? A quick switch to Ryan or Cruz might give them a big enough bump to carry them through Nov 8.

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